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Contents 1 deletion of 'starnet' 2 Template:Fb cl team 3 Fair use rationale for Image:Arutz 10.png 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Atidekhad.jpg 5 Abu Basma expansion 6 Eastbourne Borough F.C. player pages listed for deletion. 7 UEFA football leagues templates 8 Deletion of MASA Israel Journey 9 Jagdish Shukla 10 al-Sayyid 11 Request for Mediation: John Howard 12 Multi-state 13 Final decision in CAMERA lobbying arbitration case 14 2009 election 15 Template:New Zealand elections 16 Deletion of David Dodd 17 Vandalism 18 Bustan al-Marj towns 19 Isle of Wight at low tide? 20 Football Notability 21 1966–68 Liga Leumit season 22 Israeli champion boxes 23 Serie D 24 Codicote F.C. listed for deletion 25 Deletion of Runtime Design Automation article 26 CLP-1 2006-07 to Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 2006-07 27 Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 2006-07 27.1 Reply 28 Please Give Me a Break! 29 Yad Binyamin 30 Yad Binyamin 31 Yad Binyamin 32 Hi 33 Templates 34 Re: A few things 35 Salon Mazal 36 Galia, Israel 37 Villages in Israel 38 Templates 39 Re: Templates 40 Flags 41 Template 42 Settlemnt "Alef" 43 Question on copyright

[edit] deletion of 'starnet'

Hi

Can you elaborate on why you deleted my page on starnet. Starnet is a Gteko spinnoff which was bought out by Microsoft for 190 million so i dont understand how that can be blatant advertising.

Thanks

Clifton —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cliftonflack (talk • contribs) 09:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Fb cl team

Hi Number 57. This template does assume that. It got the team's name and link from another templates located in Category:Fb team templates that also doesn't assume that. Regards. --ClaudioMB (talk) 19:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Arutz 10.png

Thanks for uploading Image:Arutz 10.png. You've indicated that the image meets Wikipedia's criteria for non-free content, but there is no explanation of why it meets those criteria. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. If you have any questions, please post them at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions.

Thank you for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 09:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Atidekhad.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Atidekhad.jpg. You've indicated that the image meets Wikipedia's criteria for non-free content, but there is no explanation of why it meets those criteria. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. If you have any questions, please post them at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions.

Thank you for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 10:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Abu Basma expansion

Greetings Number 57! Just wanted to drop by and say "great job!" with significantly expanding the Abu Basma Regional Council article and creating several new articles on the council's villages. I'm especially impressed with al-Sayyid btw. Anyhow... Keep up your great work as always! Regards, --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eastbourne Borough F.C. player pages listed for deletion.

As it states in the subject, why are some of the players that the pages I have requested for up for deletion?

It states that are not professional athletes. Eastbourne Borough F.C. is not yet a professional football club, also not all information about these people has been publicised just yet. If you can allow me a few months to source more information about these people I will gladly add them. EddersGTI (talk) 19:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, I do see your point there. EddersGTI (talk) 23:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] UEFA football leagues templates

Some users are renaming the Rep. of Macedonia to FYR Macedonia in the Top level football leagues of Europe; 2007-08 in European Football; 2008-09 in European Football templates. Please consider that this is official name of the domestic league not UEFA. If I'm correct please revert this edits. If I'm not, please explain why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isavevski (talk • contribs) 00:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of MASA Israel Journey

Can you please explain to me why this article is deleted? I consider the program of equal relevance as birthrigh israel.

Glorydaze716 (talk) 15:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jagdish Shukla

The tag for deletion on this page has been on far past the requisite five days. Would you be able to delete it? Ironholds (talk) 22:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Woops, sorry! got the month confused. thanks for your help! Ironholds (talk) 22:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

About the Starnet deletion. They just got bought out by IAC the owners of Ask.com, Match.com etc... I think the deletion was premature and unjustified and needs to be reimplemented.Please explain why the deletion happened as 13 million people think it's important enough to be a registered member and use on a multidaily basis... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.74.105.134 (talk) 06:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] al-Sayyid

On 27 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article al-Sayyid, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 01:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Mediation: John Howard

Hello. A request for mediation has been lodged for the John Howard article, concerning whether information about an incident between John Howard and Barack Obama should be included or deleted from the article. The link for the RfM is Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/John_Howard. The issue is still being discussed on the article talk page. Please go to the RfM page and list whether you agree or disagree to be involved in mediation of this issue. Thank you, Lester 01:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Multi-state

I saw on your userpage that you "believe in a multi-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict." This is certainly something I've never seen before. What do you mean "multi-state"? What other states can there be besides a Jewish, an Arab (or a bi national) one? I'm only asking you this since it was on your userpage and I found it interesting. If you don't wish to discuss this matter, that's cool with me.Bless sins (talk) 04:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

That's an interesting solution. However, a couple of things should be noted. Though Kurds exist in Syria, Iran, Iraq and Turkey, only in the latter two countries have they any major separatist movements.

Also, I haven't seen the Druze enter into a conflict with either Muslims (Sunnis and Druze form the pro-Western coalition in Lebanon) or Jews (Druze serve alongside Jews in the Israeli military).

As for the Assyrians, their state would be far too small to be independent,[1] and would like be an autonomous region in an independent country.

Hey, what would you say to Middle Eastern federation of states (much like the European Union) that could unite the peoples of the Middle East, instead of dividing them?

Your thoughts?Bless sins (talk) 02:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Final decision in CAMERA lobbying arbitration case

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Mere membership by an editor in some external group that has been involved in violations of policy is not actionable without evidence that the editor has some personal involvement in said violations. Sanctions previously imposed are confirmed. An amnesty is extended towards any editors who may have been involved in this external group and who have not been sanctioned for their participation in it. This is coupled with an expectation that these editors will not participate in similar efforts in the future. Members of the community who may have information regarding similar efforts by external groups to unduly influence our content are urged to forward that information to the Committee for review. Hypnosadist (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) is admonished to maintain an appropriate level of professionalism at all times, and to avoid misrepresenting Wikipedia policy to other editors. For the committee, — Rlevse • Talk • 20:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2009 election

I was just about to create an article on the 2009 Malawian election; the purpose of adding it to the template was to give me a convenient link when I decided to do it. If red linked elections can't go in the template, why don't you delete all the red linked past elections? Everyking (talk) 04:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

So I can't make that link because one person made a decision for a reason you don't remember? Everyking (talk) 17:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

AFAICR, it wasn't my idea, but it was convincingly argued by someone who's since left Wikipedia that if we wanted to link to a future election in the template, we should at least know enough about the election to also create at least a stub on it... And I can see no good counterargument to that, personally. —Nightstallion 22:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I know enough about the election to write a stub on it, so that isn't a problem. Everyking (talk) 23:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:New Zealand elections

Please explain at the template talk page why you have removed content that is under discussion, and why you chose not to participate in that discussion. I'm also not at all sure what your edit summary is supposed to mean; how is the group number unused?-gadfium 08:32, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of David Dodd

It's not necessary to delete this article. Despite the fact that he hasn't yet played a game for Queensland Roar he has definately played senior team games for his previous clubs. And there's a very good chance he'll play a senior game for Roar when the season starts, which means all the work already done for his page will have to be redone. Besides, all players signed to an A-League club have their own page regardless of how many games they're played, due to the fact that because of the small playing roster of the A-League there's a very high chance they'll play at least one game in the upcoming season. Blackjanedavey (talk) 18:17, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok but what about the fact that he has definately played a senior game for his previous clubs (in a fully professional league)? Surely that means his page is valid. I just can't find the exact number of games because that information is not available on the internet. Blackjanedavey (talk) 14:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

He played for the Palm Beach Sharks in the Brisbane Premier League. This was before the Queensland State League, which was only introduced this year, so the BPL was the highest form of competition for footballers in the state of Queensland until this year. As far as I know, it is a fully professional league.

[edit] Vandalism

I want to report that User:157.228.x.x does not edit on a neutral point of view. I guess he is a Greek and the only thing he does is changing Republic of Macedonia to FYROM in every possible article. I am a Macedonian so I also may not see this on a neutral point of view so I leave it to you to decide. Please explain this situation as soon as possible. Isavevski (talk) 12:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bustan al-Marj towns

Thanks for creating the articles on Bustan al-Marj Regional Council's towns. I expanded ed Dahi somewhat. I was going to add some info on Kafr Misr, but it contradicted what the article already said. In the article it says Kafr Misr was founded by the Zoabi family of Ramtha, however the municipal site says "Some have lived in the area for hundreds and even thousands of years, others came to the village from Egypt in the beginning of the 19th century when the Egyptians captured the area for a while." and "In historical maps from 1799, the village was called "Mavela" which means beauty. The Crusaders called it "Kaphar Mazre" and, due to its unique fertile area and water supply, it became an agriculture center. Ancient locations in the village show the centrality of its role over years. It is located at a valley between two major mountains in the region: Mr. Dahei and Mt. Tabor."

I don't which one to believe. Could you add the source to the Zoabi claim? --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Isle of Wight at low tide?

Just out of interest, do you have a reference that shows that the Isle of Wight is bigger than Rutland at low tide? Thanks, JRawle (Talk) 19:43, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I may watch that programme now to see what they say! JRawle (Talk) 19:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Football Notability

Question about Real Salt Lake player Tino Nunez. Obviously he does not have a profile as of yet, however it appears he has made 2 appearances for the club. These were in the US Open Cup, which I believe is equivalent to the FA Cup. The notability criteria (#2) states:

Have played in a competitive fixture between two "FPNL clubs" (in the FA Cup or League Cup, non-English equivalent, Continental or Intercontinental club competition).

Would this qualify? Proof of his appearances are as follows:

• RSL rolls to victory in play-in game
• RSL ousted from U.S. Open Cup

Please let me know if this is good.

Disregard, he literally just came into the MLS league match right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GauchoDude (talk • contribs) 02:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1966–68 Liga Leumit season

On 1 June 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 1966–68 Liga Leumit season, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 08:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Israeli champion boxes

Relating to seasons 66/68, 93/94. why is it wrong/pointless? I only added it because its on any other season of any other league in europe. KradineerG (talk) 09:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello again, I got your answer and I agree, though its on every other league so it doesnt really matter.

Anyway, in Ligat ha'Al 2000-01 in the intro you listed the teams that got rrelegated in the same season unlike the other season pages and unlike the 'agenda' of not telling the user twice what he can see with the table. KradineerG (talk) 10:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

About relegation issue, if you write the teams relegated on the season then you need to write it on every season page.. same with the champion box, my thought from the beginning is that the season pages stay with the same structure.

you cant do this on 1 page and the other in another pages.

btw - thanks for all the clean ups, your doing a good job :) KradineerG (talk) 19:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Serie D

Only 3 years have been detailed here at wikipedia: 2005-06, 2006-07, 2007-08. Serie D goes back a lot further, but I think if we include all those seasons in the template, they will remain unreferenced. Thanks for helping me out. Juve2000 (talk) 15:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the template, however, I prefer the current format to the one you used for Serie D and are pushing for in the Serie B template. Please explain why the smaller font size is better. I don't think saving a few lines on a page is a good enough reason. Juve2000 (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

If remember correctly, Serie A, B, C1 and C2 were all the same before you changed them all. Who else is using your format? Juve2000 (talk) 18:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Both examples you mention were templates created just one year ago, so I would not call them the standard by any means. I think you should bring up the issue on WT:FOOTY and stop reverting the editors want to change it back to the old format.Juve2000 (talk) 18:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Now you're just being a baby. I'm not gonna play this reverting game with you. I laugh when you change them all and then call it Standard. Bye bye.Juve2000 (talk) 18:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Codicote F.C. listed for deletion

Thanks for your diligent work, however I'd like to ask you to remove your deletion tag on the Codicote F.C. article. I would agree that Codicote unfortunately don't meet the notability guidelines at present, but ironically you have put that tag up in the very month that Codicote are expected to be accepted to the FA Vase for the first time in their history. I agree that's not conclusive proof, though I'll point out that even their official website ticker has the news up, and even if they are rejected, it just seems like the wrong decision to put a notice of deletion up right now when they are so close. I'd like to ask you to delay the deletion note by a month - by which time, we'll know if they are in the FA Vase or not. Falastur2 (talk) 23:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem, glad to help out. And I'm not a member of TK, no. What's it about? Falastur2 (talk) 13:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ahh, lol. Now wouldn't there have been some irony if I'd linked you to a thread you'd posted in. No, I'm not a member, an Altavista web search found that for me. I was just hoping to save the article since I hold a special place in my heart for Hertfordshire non-league sides - probably because non-league football interests me and I love Hertfordshire. I live about 5 miles away from Codicote, actually, if that, in Hitchin. But now that you say that about TK, I might drop by to read it more often. I'm not around enough to attend any games at the moment, due to being at University, and I was never into football as I am now before I left, which is the real reason I'm not actually a member of any non-league forums. Falastur2 (talk) 13:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Runtime Design Automation article

Please explain your reasons for your deletion. Runtime Design Automation has been in existence since 1993, and has many software customers worldwide. Abbarclay (talk) 19:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CLP-1 2006-07 to Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 2006-07

Please explain your reasons for your modifications and moving of the page. Please also explain your reasons for your changes to the template. Do you have any knowledge to Tunisian Soccer!!

Just for you knowledge the offcial name of the Tunisian League is : "Championnat de la ligue professionelle 1" abriviated into CLP-1 therefor th template was correct.

BYF079: "Faïcel Ben Yedder" (talk) 22:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 2006-07

I moved it to match the title of the main article: Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 as should be the case. If this article :title is wrong, please move it.

Also, do not mark my edits as vandalism. Doing so using Twinkle may result in your permission to use the tool being removed. :пﮟოьεԻ 57 08:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I see you've reverted quite a few of my edits. ::This is not a readable ::article - we do not need massive copies of the club badges - the table is more than sufficient to provide the information. ::пﮟოьεԻ 57 08:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, when you want to add more than one template to an article, you can nest them, i.e.

{{fb start}}

{{Ligue Professional 1}}

{{Football in Tunisia}}

{{fb end}}

This removes the spaces between the templates and makes it look better. пﮟოьεԻ 57 08:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Are you Tunisian soccer fan? Do you folow Tunisian soccer? Do you know how crazy Tunisians are about soccer?

It's quite significant to have the logos in every single article. To indicate the history and the differences. so please could you net do any cleanup in Tunisian soccer related pages unless you open discussion about it please. Also I'm well awaer of the space that that leaves...and you think it looks better but it's not a fact ...since there was no survey about it. BYF079: "Faïcel Ben Yedder" (talk) 08:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

One quick question: Why was your page Vandalised more than 15 times??

[edit] Please Give Me a Break!

Please stop editing the Tunisian league pages as you clearly have contributed only in deleting and omitting things...almost never adding any bit of new information. Why don't make a survey and check with Tunisian wikipedians and check what do the think is proper for the league pages ...it's not a law not all the pages have to look a like, it's not the military here!

Tons of other leagues pages are not standard ...the Moroccan ones for instance...so please edit some other pages.

Please edit some other pages. Pretend that those page do not exist in wikipedia... Please do take a clear look at your pages men a lot of people are complaining about your deletions.

[edit] Yad Binyamin

Hi #57

1. Re the name,and article formatting fine 2. there are many other entries which have facilities - see for example rishon lezion, neve daniel, hashmonaim. are you saying this shouldn't be present at all or just that it shouldn't be in a section called facilities? 3. why has the community composition section been deleted, apart from incorrect information on gush katif (they don't live in a compound)? 4. why has the external links section been deleted?

Cestor (talk) 22:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yad Binyamin

Hi #57

1. Re the name,and article formatting fine 2. there are many other entries which have facilities - see for example rishon lezion, neve daniel, hashmonaim. are you saying this shouldn't be present at all or just that it shouldn't be in a section called facilities? 3. why has the community composition section been deleted, apart from incorrect information on gush katif (they don't live in a compound)? 4. why has the external links section been deleted?

Cestor (talk) 22:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yad Binyamin

Hi #57
1. Re the name,and article formatting fine
2. there are many other entries which have facilities - see for example rishon lezion, neve daniel, hashmonaim. are you saying this shouldn't be present at all or just that it shouldn't be in a section called facilities?
3. why has the community composition section been deleted, apart from incorrect information on gush katif (they don't live in a compound)?
4. why has the external links section been deleted?

Cestor (talk) 22:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Yitzhak Ben-Zvi is being repeatedly vandalized. can you do something about it? Pelegisrael (talk) 04:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

The alignment agreed there was the one of the Scottish Premier League that doesn't have the blanked seasons at the start of the templates. CapPixel (talk) 12:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, I don't see any poll about changing the templates. You just asked in the talk page after chaning them. Can you please open one? Thanks. CapPixel (talk) 16:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: A few things

I have replied on the relevant talk page about the Mizrahi Worker. About the other issue, I really don't know if the affiliations still stand. I'm sure that at least some of these localities have websites, or a website for the regional council, which may clarify the official position of the kibbutz/moshav. No time to check that now, but if you give me a list of the locations, I'll look for the websites on day.

It's too bad that you haven't been on messenger, but I'll e-mail you per your advice, probably today.

Yom Tov, Ynhockey ^(Talk) 13:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Salon Mazal

Hi,

I've noticed that my entry on Salon Mazal was deleted.

Salon Mazal is a non profit, volunteer-based centre.

Please let me know which parts of my entry are considered to be advertising, so i can re-edit the entry.

Thanks, Doronef (talk) 16:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Please put the article in User:Doronef/Salon Mazal and i will work on it.

thank u, Doronef (talk) 07:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Galia, Israel

Hi. The correct name is Ge'alya. Decided to go to your talk page instead of making the changes myself, to save us all the changes and reverts we had with Bnaya. In this case I am sure this is both the common and correct pronunciation. Derwig (talk) 03:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

• I am familiar with this moshav (and can see its houses from my window...), The Alef is not silent.

Also, the moshav's homepage is at www.gealya.co.il Derwig (talk) 13:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Villages in Israel

Hi. Major kudos on all those articles you've been creating lately. I've got the "Mapa concise Gazetteer of Israel" so I'm going through such articles and occasionally add a reference. Another thing: When you create such an article, could you also tag it with WPISRAEL? -- Nudve (talk) 04:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Speaking of MKs. I've noticed you still have Israeli government roles in your "To do" list. Are you planning on creating them? -- Nudve (talk) 17:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

"Yuval Elʻazari" is copy-pasted from worldcat. But sure, I'll change it. -- Nudve (talk) 11:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

Non of those being supported in the link are the Italian football templates, people are saying something positive about the way it is on the Scottish one but not the others. Three people, me, CapPixel and Juve2000 have said "your version looks awful on the Italian league templates" and reverted it. Accept consensus. - Ordinaria (talk) 04:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Templates

No. You should also ask in the Italian Task Force talk page. CapPixel (talk) 14:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't take this as an approval by every people working on Italian football pages. You should propose a poll in the italian task force page and wait at least a week before changing them all again. CapPixel (talk)

OK, but I think it would be more polite to ask the opinion of the people that are working on those articles for months or even years. CapPixel (talk) 14:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I minor point, I would keep the dot instead of the vertical bar to separate the years. Juve2000 (talk) 14:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flags

My use of flags at Darron Gibson falls within guidelines describing sporting nationality. I cannot see the problem here and nobody has offered me a satisfactory explanation as to why these flags should not be included. I see flags used thru out Wiki regularly. Djln--Djln (talk) 19:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

• Regarding Wolves. The clubs own website is called www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk and it displays the word Wolves prominently. So if the club use the name why can’t it be used in Wiki. Even the Wiki article on the club states that the club is well known by this name. Djln --Djln (talk) 19:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template

Hi! {{Luxembourgian elections}} should be split for the communal elections, right? —Nightstallion 12:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Settlemnt "Alef"

Hi. great job on Israeli villages and local councils. Please note that the name of the plan was not Alef, but rather Elef (1000). The plan was to settle 1000 families around cities and Moshavot. Derwig (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

• I think you decided well. Derwig (talk) 17:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question on copyright

Hello Number 57!

Thanks for editing my article on Ohalo College. I still want to add content to it. Am I allowed to upload the logo image of the college to the 'infobox university' part? (the logo is obviously copyrighted by the college). Thanks

--Jeloox (talk) 06:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)