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[edit] England Saxons

Hi, I do not think it is a good precedent to add a single sport team specific template to the generic flag template system. I think it opens the door for all sorts of cruft — for example, somebody once created a template for the "flag" of The Un-Americans wrestling team! Is there a specific problem you are trying to solve with that, or are you just looking to use {{ru}} as much as possible for "cleaner" wikicode? Thanks, Andrwsc (talk) 16:51, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Followup: at an absolute minimum, we should not use a non-standard country code abbreviation such as "SAX". It is terribly confusing to use invented codes instead of the standard ISO, IOC and FIFA codes, as per guidance on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Flag Template home page. Andrwsc (talk) 16:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Either we create the England Saxons country template, or we need to create three different templates for said team so that compatibility is seen through {{ru}}, {{ru-big}} and {{ru-rt}}. I think that creating one template to use with three is less cruftlike than creating three different templates. It also lends itself to being cleaner and more uniform.

Alternatively, we create three new templates, {{ruA}}, {{ruA-big}} and {{ruA-rt}}, for the A teams with alternate ids for the England A (now the Saxons), New Zealand A (Junior All Blacks) and South Africa A (Emerging Springboks). If you could put that in place, it could invalidate the necessity of the country data template specific for each user set. --Bob (talk) 17:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I think I like the latter approach best. It is similar to something I did for the football templates, where I created {{fbu}} for the various under-xx teams. It used an additional parameter to identify the alternate team—in this case, using the age as a selector (e.g. "20", "21", "17" etc. as appropriate). I will see what I can do to add a selector for the secondary teams. Thanks for the feedback, Andrwsc (talk) 17:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Follow-up-question: How many of these "A" teams are there? I only see articles for Australia, New Zealand and England, and you've mentioned a South Africa team (article still redlinked, I guess), but are there potentially others? Thanks, Andrwsc (talk) 19:04, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Ten teams: Scotland A, Ireland A, England Saxons, Wales A, France A, Italy A, Emerging Springboks, Argentina A, Junior All Blacks and Australia A are the ones that play most often, but, in theory, every playing country could have an 'A' side. --Bob (talk) 19:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I see for many of them we've previously just wikilinked to the main team article with something like {{ru|Scotland}} A or {{ru|Scotland|name=Scotland A}}. Is there an intent to create seperate articles for all ten of these teams and go back and update those instances? I'm trying to get a handle on how flexible the template needs to be for names and/or links. Thanks again, Andrwsc (talk) 19:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Articles will eventually be created for all teams mentioned above. Especially as most of them play in recently created annual tournaments, as well as the long standing Six Nations A. I belive most are already linked to in the templates of the main national team (at the bottom of each article). --Bob (talk) 19:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, great! Thanks for the help. Andrwsc (talk) 19:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Instead of creating any more templates, I think I can make it work by adding a new parameter to the existing {{ru}} set of templates. For example, you would use {{ru|SCO|team=A}} to get Scotland A {{ru|ENG|team=A}} to get England Saxons. How does that look? Andrwsc (talk) 20:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

that would be good. Could it also be implemented on {{ru-rt}} and {{ru-big}}? --Bob (talk) 20:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, exactly. All three templates would work the same way. Andrwsc (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, you know, it's going to be a lot more difficult than I first thought. The problem is that I think we want the display name to default to something like "Australia A" instead of just "Australia". All of the existing internal rendering templates (such as template:country flaglink and template:country bigflag) assume that you want to see the country name (only), regardless of the wikilink article name, and it would be messy to build something on top of that existing system. I think I shall pursue a "Plan B".... Andrwsc (talk) 20:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that the A team article for Australia is at Australia A rugby union team instead of Australia A national rugby union team. Is that intentional, or something we should fix with a page move? Andrwsc (talk) 21:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

They should all be at the same layout for the title except the sides from NZL, RSA and ENG. Will move that one. --Bob (talk) 21:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I went with a "plan B" approach to create template:ruA. Take a look and let me know if you think it's ok. Underneath it all, it still uses the flag template system, but instead of adding a pair of statements to every country data template (i.e. link alias-rugby union A = Scotland A national rugby union team and name alias-rugby union A = Scotland A) and building the ruA templates in a similar way to the normal ru templates, I went with a different approach. Other that the four special cases in that switch statement (for the three unusual team names and for Ireland's special flag), every other team will work using the standard format (e.g. one day we could add  Fiji A perhaps). What do you think? Andrwsc (talk) 21:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks. I'll start to use this one now. Will you create the ruA-rt and ruA-big ?? --Bob (talk) 21:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Just finished -rt and will do -big right away too. Andrwsc (talk) 21:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I forgot to mention one important detail. The names of the Saxons etc were only recently introduced, prior to 2006, Saxons were England A, the Junior All Blacks were New Zealand U23 and Emerging Boks were South Africa A. --Bob (talk) 21:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll put back the ability to change the name (i.e. name=New Zealand U23), similar to the way the standard templates work. Andrwsc (talk) 21:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Rugby union

Hey, thanks for doing those things mentioned at the Featured Portal page. - Shudde ^talk 22:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

no worries - I am still working on the topics portion... take a look... --Bob 22:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

See the talk page: Portal talk:Rugby union/Rugby union topics - Shudde ^talk 22:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ITN photo proposal

Hi,

You started the discussion of the irrelevant photos on ITN. I put up a proposal at Template talk:In the news#ITN photo proposal if you'd care to voice an opinion there.

Thanks - Tempshill (talk) 17:01, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archives

Grcampbell, I think it's time to archive the HIV talk page again (and a couple of others). I've never done it before, and it sounds like it's helpful to use the same method for a given page. Were you the last person to archive Talk:HIV? Can you tell me what method was used? (I'll watch this page if you want to reply here.) Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby Infobox Template

Hey GR, I've been directed to you by User:Shudde. I write on Austn Rugby League players but have an interest in Category:Dual code rugby internationals . For those I'm starting to use the wonderful infobox Template:Infobox Rugby biography rather than the RL box so I can detail full career history. In that box the State Representative section of a RL career is entitled " State of Origin". Whilst this is great for Austn post-1980 rep careers it's not accurate for pre-1980 when selection criteria was residential & not Origin based. Can you help me change this to "State Rep" or something similar. I know this doesn't accommodate Provincial/Regional rep appearances by Kiwi or Welsh dual-code ints but my understanding is that neither country has a rep level in between club & country. -Sticks66 (talk) 00:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Done, just add the parameter {{{sooteam pre-1980}}} and that will give you a different heading. The same exists for super rugby using the parameter {{{staterep}}}. Just equate either, or both to yes, and it will change the heading accordingly. See Wendell Sailor for an example. --Bob (talk) 18:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant. Thanks -Sticks66 (talk) 12:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Retrospective award

I Cas Liber, hereby award Rlevse the Flaming Joel-wiki for raising our collective consciousness for work on a Featured Article highlighted by the Übermuse Billy Joel in his great song We Didn't Start the Fire...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby Infobox

I'm afraid knowledge of syntax is limited. Clarity is really my issue. If that infobox can be cleaned up I would back it, otherwise I prefer the other one, purely for the way it displays the information in a clear fashion.Alexsanderson83 (talk) 00:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I need specifics as tow why it is less clear. It displays the same information and is similar to other infoboxes such as those for countries and monarchs. What makes it less clear? --Bob (talk) 00:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

It definitely looks better than it does just a short while ago. I will get back to you if I have any specifics.Alexsanderson83 (talk) 00:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Highlanders (rugby) peer review

Hey. I've been struggling to get any comments at my requested peer-review of Highlanders (rugby). I was wondering if you would be able to spend a few minutes reading through the article and adding any comments or suggestions here? Thanks. - Shudde ^talk 06:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:CorleoneSerpicoMontana

I completely agree. Other users have had dealings with this individual regarding conflicts about policy, and I don't believe they are going to stop. I guess all we can do is stand our ground, and if we have any further hassle from this person, we report them to the admins. – PeeJay 16:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I was having trouble finding confirmation on the club logos. Have now had it pointed out to me at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_union#Navboxes_for_players. The reason for the revert was I was not finding the reason to why they could not be used, I have since been set straight on that matter. Apologies for any troubles the mass revert may have done, I now see that they indeed should not be used in this way (else risk them being removed from wikipedia and the club pages they are necessary for). Happy editing. CorleoneSerpicoMontana (talk) 21:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Featured sounds

I noticed that you have participated in Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates in the past. There are now two candidates and the project appears to be abandoned. If you could look at the candidates and vote it would be appreciated. Zginder ^{(talk) (Contrib)} 18:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks!

Hello Grcampbell! I would like to express my gratitude because of having edited the English edition of the Rugby Union leagues in Spain.

I have recently added the English Wikipedia in order to contribute with other Valencian teams articles. So I hope we keep in touch in order to help each other in whatever it be needed.

Best regards! --Jogomon88 (talk) 14:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Your input...

You might be interested in this thread on WP:MED. JFW | T@lk 20:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AIDS map depends on which version of UNAIDS report?

Image:HIV_Epidem.png says that the source is "Based on data from UNAIDS." Is this the 2007 report (PDF) or some earlier version? I'm asking, because I want to put an accurate caption on that image in AIDS #Epidemiology. Ideally, I guess, I want to update either that image or the SVG version Image:AIDS_and_HIV_prevalence.svg to the latest estimates. Thanks. Eubulides (talk) 19:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AIDS

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[edit] Edinburgh Rugby Peer Review

Hi there, I was wondering if you could take a look at the Edinburgh Rugby article for peer review when you get the chance. I've decided to try and improve it, I've added some recent history and referencing but I'm fairly new to the whole editing process and was wondering if you could give me some pointers on what the most important issues are to correct. Cheers! PeemJim86 (talk · contribs)

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