User talk:Camaron

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Feel free to use this page to talk to me about my Wikipedia work. Response times do vary, though I will try to accommodate everyone - my status (above) can provide guidance on when I may reply, note that it is updated manually. You can e-mail me for private discussion. You may find me on IRC at #wikipedia-en and #wikipedia-en-admins under the nickname Camaron-Chris or Camaron-away. When starting a new topic on this page please start it at the bottom of the list and use section headings as appropriate. I do highly appreciate it if comments here follow Wikipedia:No personal attacks and Wikipedia:Civility - I reserve the right to delete comments from this page in extreme circumstances. I will generally reply to comments here unless asked otherwise. Bot messages and mass post messages might be moved to User talk:Camaron/Spam. Note however that RfA/RfB cards and thanks messages are welcome on this page and are not removed.

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1. 17 March 2007 - 6 August 2007 2. 8 August 2007 - 28 October 2007 3. 8 November 2007 - 4 January 2008 4. 5 January 2008 - 29 February 2008 5. 4 March 2008 - 1 April 2008 6. 2 April 2008 - 26 May 2008

Contents 1 Solar energy protection 2 Hey! 3 WP:HAU 4 Re: Scotland in the Eurovision Song Contest 5 Why 6 WP:WPSCH/A 7 Plagarism removed from Shawnigan Lake School article. 8 EUROVISION 9 My RFB

[edit] Solar energy protection

You mind having a chat with User:Anthony Appleyard about the inappropriateness of protecting Solar energy just so that an SPA can edit it the way they like and ignore the wishes of the community? 199.125.109.31 (talk) 14:38, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about my lack of response, I had exams so I decided to wait until after they were over before dealing with this. I will review the situation and leave a message with Anthony Appleyard as soon as I get round to it now. Camaron2 | Chris (talk) 15:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I have left a message with Anthony Appleyard. I have to conclude that I think the article should be unprotected. Camaron | Chris (talk) 20:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Camaron... Please have a look at this: Rfc Pictures. That was 2 months of time and effort that led to a disregarded consensus. This Anon makes a big stink about editing the page but hasn't added more than a few sentences and the lead picture. You seem to think this is a content issue but I beg to differ. Frequent incivility and disruption should be recognized and dealt with. I think the general level of vandalism (which you've seen) on the page justifies protection alone. Regardless of protection this Anon seems to have some sockpuppets running around so the protection of the page is relatively moot. But the thing is... You've limited two page protections now. If this situation happens to come up again I'd ask that you checked out the talk archives before acting to limit protection. Cheers Mrshaba (talk) 22:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Frequent incivility and disruption should be dealt with, some inadvisable behaviour, but I cannot see any of that to a significant extent there or elsewhere. Vandalism occurs on that page but not currently at a level which justifies protection. I will do my research, as I did before, if this comes up again but I will act to limit protection within the protection policy as necessary. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

Do you happen to be online at the moment? Dusti^{complain/compliment} 16:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Dusti, I am for the moment. Camaron | Chris (talk) 20:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, what I was going to ask you has changed....see here and here. You'll get the drift. Nevermind now though lol :D. Dusti^{complain/compliment} 22:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I think you will do well with Keeper. If you need any additional help, I am still available Camaron | Chris (talk) 10:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:HAU

Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 22:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I think I will just wait for the patch for now. Camaron | Chris (talk) 10:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Scotland in the Eurovision Song Contest

Thanks for transferring the rest of that article's history. There's just one minor quibble though, as the AfD closure also dictated deletion (rather than redirection) of the Scotland article. While redirects are cheap, "Scotland in the Eurovision Song Contest" is a very unlikely search term and no other article links to it. When and if Scotland does enter the competition, the article could be spun off again. I hope you don't mind but I'm going to go ahead and delete the redirect and its talk page. Cheers, ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 21:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I to be honest disagree, the article was there for a while and I can see many people, such as myself, using it as a search term given other articles use the same naming conventions. If the AFD dictated deletion, which is arguable as redirects fall outside the scope of AfD, then I have no choice but to dispute the AFD result. Redirects are cheap, so maybe the question that should be asked is why is a redirect so inappropriate? Significant later AFD comments supported redirection, no reason has been given on why the suggestion to redirect was dismissed. I also dispute the redirect deletion under WP:CSD#R3 as it is not an implausible typo, and after checking the dictionary definition, nor a misonemer. Camaron | Chris (talk) 18:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I also have to ask what was wrong with the simpler and more common method, as far as I can see, way of merging articles which is to simply redirect the page, move the content into the article been merged into, and add {{r from merge}} to the redirect. It is easier to find the page history when it is not all combined in one article. In addition, if the article is recreated it is easier to have all the versions ever created for that article in one place. For this reason I also support reversing the history merger, which can be done. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Very well, I've undeleted the redirect. As you've said, redirects are cheap and there's no reason to quibble over such a minor concern. Cheers, ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 08:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Anetode. Camaron | Chris (talk) 08:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why

Why Did you block me? I have some questions about the "Attention" (where you contact my server thing) thing you gave me. What does it do ? please contact me via my user talk/on here (both would be prefferable) thanks. Also what is going to happen? I am sorry if i vandalized. I just asked what i did worng so that i wouldnt do it a gain the next day BAM that shows up! plz help!

I'm sorry if it wasn't you . It just looked like it from the page history :P. Thanks:)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.34.90.227 (talk) 01:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

You weren't blocked. The template I added is just to let administrators know who the IP address belongs to so in the event of abuse they can be contacted. Don't worry - this is added to a lot of talk pages and doesn't necessarily mean that someone is actually right now using the IP address for abuse. In this case, as far as I can see this IP address is not been used for abuse. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh thank heavens...I thought something bad was going to happen. Thank you so much. I had no idea. I know someone accused me of vandalizing but I admit I may have, but I asked how I did so that I wouldn't do it again:). Also, the "vandalizing " was fixed. So no worries:)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.34.90.227 (talk) 23:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:WPSCH/A

Thanks, will do. I have been adding infoboxes to school articles and assessing as I go along. If that's not okay, I can make notations as well on the project page as well. — Calebrw (talk) 19:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

In the past the project has proffered that new assessors list all their assessments on the project page, though I personally don't mind if you don't unless you are in doubt on a rating. However everybody should generally list assessments if it involves giving an article rating higher than Start, or/and importance higher than Mid. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I have listed all my assessments since today. If you would like to review them, you may, just to see that I know what I'm doing. I tried to clear as much of the assessment request backlog as I could. (Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Assessment#Assessment_requests) I got up to mid-April and will hopefully complete the rest of it tomorrow. — Calebrw (talk) 01:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

PS: Please respond on my Talk page, so I get the notification. ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calebrw (talk • contribs) 01:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page as requested. Camaron | Chris (talk) 17:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I will do this in the future. Sorry for any inconvenience. — Calebrw (talk) 20:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plagarism removed from Shawnigan Lake School article.

Please see talk page of Shawnigan Lake School. I discovered that the History section was a near word-for-word plagiarism of http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/text2html/finding/government/.ms_finding//MS-1485.txt and this needs to cited correctly. It is cited in-text once, but that is it.

I discovered this during a requested assessment of this article. The rest looks good. — Calebrw (talk) 21:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] EUROVISION

Why withdraw the part of spokepersons and commentators on the page of the Eurovision Song Contest 2008, as if in the pages of the editions of the other years because there would be in this be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.84.129.149 (talk) 21:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

See my comments on the ESC 2008 talk page. Camaron | Chris (talk) 15:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My RFB

Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 03:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)