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[edit] All for our Country

As far as I can tell, the motto of Nevada is actually i like pie"All for our Country". That's the way the text appears in the state seal. It's only translated into the Latin "Omnia pro Patria" for the seal of the University of Nevada (Reno


I discovered that the page from which I'd gotten my list of state symbols was out of date. Going to the actual Nevada Revised Statutes showed that a few more had been added in 2001, including such unlikely things as a state soil and a state tartan. I added them all, figuring that since they are all things that the state has chosen to symbolize itself, they are all equally valid.

I did not list the state tartan, however, because I'm not sure what to do about it. There's no brief textual description of it that can be given. The Nevada statutes actually use a picture of it to define it, and it's a fairly large picture. If anyone wants to figure out a way to smoothly integrate it into the page, please do so. --AaronW 23:40, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

"The local pronunciation of the state is not "Ne-vah-da", but should be said so that the middle syllable rhymes with "gamble"" -- Is this meant as a joke? :) I can't figure out how one would interpret a syllable represented by the letters "va" to rhyme with the word "gamble". How about using words like volleyball and vacuum to explain it? In New York, I heard it pronounced as "Ne-va(as in vacuum)-duh", and in California, I hear it pronounced as "Ne-va(as in volleyball)-duh". bneely

The middle syllable is a "short a" sound, like in the words "add", "had", or "mad". I agree that "gamble" is not the best example word to give, since it has two syllables. I guess whoever wrote that was trying to say it in a way people would remember. :) Nevada's middle syllable is most often pronounced like "add" in the western US (including almost all Nevada residents), and like "odd" in the eastern US. You seem, by chance, to have experienced the opposite. --4.246.3.1 01:21, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

However, as a Nevadan, I've never actually heard this state motto in use in either English or latin. Most people in Nevada think of "Battle Born", the text on our state flag, as our state motto. --AaronW 23:26, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

does everything revolve around the presidential election with you idiots? Try using some perspective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.237.38 (talk) 16:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Age of consent

Anyone know who first edited this page to include the information about Nevada's antiquated age of consent laws? I looked through the history a little to find out w/o non-anonymous luck. I'm (in)formally investigating this issue, so this is somewhat for research purposes. Thanks. --Crazymonk 23:29, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

The answer is: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nevada&diff=prev&oldid=15394367
GraemeMcRaetalk 04:24, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nevada Corporate Law

I do not agree that the Nevada Corporation law entry should be merged with this entry. It is a separate topic in Nevada law that deserves its own entry, just like Prostitution in Nevada is a separate topic with its own entry (however the Nevada Corporation entry needs to be expanded). I have added a cross-reference and brief explanation to this entry that I think does the trick? --Ssilvers 18:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

  • My leaning was either to leave as is or to be netural. Given the lack of support, I'm going to pull the merge suggestion since there does not appear to be much support after two weeks. Vegaswikian 05:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to edit State Entries

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The WikiProject U.S. states standards might help.

[edit] Pronunciation

Is it pronounced Nev-Add-uh or Nev-aaH-da?

  • As a Nevadan, I pronounce it Nev-Add-uh. See above.--71.49.212.77 22:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Ditto. See pronunciation guide in External Links section. Vegas215 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 02:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] City and County of Carson City

Carson City is a distinct (city and) county of the state of Nevada but is not listed as county...

[edit] Religion

The percentages of people belonging to different religions do not add up to 100%. If one counts Mormons not to belong to Christians, then the top level percentages add up to 100%, but still the percentages of different kinds of Christians do not add up to the total percentage of Christians (there seems to be more different kinds of Christians than their total number).Punainen Nörtti 12:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American?

What exactly does it mean when you say that (4.8%) of the population is "American." Do you mean "Native American?" This needs to be clarified. Can somebody please clarify?


It means the rest are nevadan, we're an odd bunch <no one appreciates humour on wiki's?> I'd bet it is native americans. 64.149.83.77 09:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Someone take down the "NEvada is a very gay place" and the rest.

[edit] Carson City's population

I noticed that the population of Carson City as a city is different from Carson City's population as a county. Given that the city and the county are one in the same, which number is accurate? Could someone fix it?

they are slightly different, there was an error made combining the administrative district of carson with ormsby county making ormsby carson city county, so carson city is not quite as big as carson city county 64.149.83.77 09:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Sports section added to updated Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states format

The Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states format has been updated to include a new Sports section, that covers collegiate sports, amateur sports, and non-team sports (such as hunting and fishing). Please feel free to add this new heading, and supply information about sports in Nevada . Please see South_carolina#Sports_in_South_Carolina as an example. NorCalHistory 13:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] "Correction" of Vandalism

The highest point in Nevada is, in fact, above 13,000 feet. This leads to the assertion that "peaks above 13,000 feet" is correct.

[edit] Awkward language?

Does anyone else find the following language awkard?

"and prostitution, which itself is legal in no other state."

I'd prefer reading language more like this:

"and prostitution, which is illegal in all other states." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.60.59.250 (talk) 11:57, 1 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Pah-Ute County

The Las Vegas Review-Journal says that Pah-Ute County was annexed on January 18, 1967. This differers from the article text. Anyone know which source is correct? Vegaswikian 19:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed project

There evidently isn't a project dealing with the state of Nevada as a whole. I have thus proposed one at User:Warlordjohncarter/WikiProject Nevada. Please indicate there if you would like to join such a project. Thank you. John Carter 21:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV in Law/government section?

I'm marking that section as possibly in need of an NPOV check: the arguments seem unusually one-sided, and the repetitive use of the word "liberal" looks in context like a weasel word. I think it would look better if the facts were allowed to stand for themselves, without the commentary. toll_booth 16:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Drugs Laws Mentioned In Opening Paragraph?

While I do understand that the Nevada position on drugs seems to contradict it's legal philosophy when dealing with other vices, is the state's stance on drugs so important that it needs to be mentioned in the opening paragraph, and then later in the article?--Mikevegas40 08:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Needs information about rainfall/precipitation

The article needs information about the state's annual rainfall/precipitation (as most other state articles have). 131.123.231.143 22:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks like the population numbers were reversed for the city of Pahrump and the county of Nye65.26.30.94 08:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sound files - for someone more experienced with Wikipedia

I removed this from the top of the article:

There's a way to integrate it more cohesively into the article, but I figured I would put it here for someone more experienced with Wikipedia to deal with. It just looked sloppy where it was. Thanks. Thompsontough (talk) 20:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism to Friedman quote

Over four months ago, some clown at IP address 71.50.71.26 vandalized the Friedman quote I inserted the article, and no one caught it. I just caught and fixed the damage right now. If this happens again, the article needs to be semi-protected. To whomever vandalized the quote, please see User:Ericsaindon2 for what happened to the last Wikipedia vandal I ran into who refused to bring his edits into compliance with Wikipedia policies. --Coolcaesar (talk) 05:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia versus Wiktionary consistency

Wiktionary admin Stephen G. Brown has tried to reject the superior Wikipedia pronunciation text for Nevada and instead insists upon his own rather crude POV text. Frankly I consider this admin abuse and I have noted my concern in Wiktionary discussion for this topic.

Mr. Brown has used various tactics including deleting my Wiktionary discussion text and locking the entire topic for weeks from any attempt by anyone to add a POV dispute notation. I have emailed Jessica Barrett of the Wiktionary Information Team about my concerns, however, so far the Wikimedia Foundation has taken no corrective action.

One of the principles of Wiktionary and Wikipedia should be the self-policing checks and balances by individuals to ensure accuracy of entries. Other than a presumed unresolved Foundation review, I see no such evidence of checks and balances in this case. Instead I see elitist, regional opinions and censorship overriding democratic values by a rogue Wiktionary admin. --Vegas215 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 11:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] +++ Admin/Sysop assistance request - Re: Wiktionary admin abuse on this topic

Rogue Wiktionary Admin Stephen G. Brown has once again reverted Wiktionary's entry for Nevada to his own inaccurate and inferior (to Wikipedia) text regarding pronunciation of Nevada. This includes removing Wikipedia's pronunciation text including references, removing the pronunciation guide External Link, and as usual, Mr. Brown has once again Sysop-locked the topic for one month.

Wiktionary/Wikipedia should not be subject to this sort of authoritarian sole-arbiter of definitions. It is the antithesis of the democratic principles of the Wikimedia Foundation. --Vegas215 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 02:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


Wikipedia entry (author unknown)

Although the name is derived from the Spanish word Nevada, which is the feminine form of "covered in snow", the local pronunciation of the state's name is not IPA[nəˈvɑ.də] (as in the "o" in "odd"), but IPA[nəˈvæ.də] (as in the "a" in "glad").[1] In 2005, the state issued a specialty license plate via the Nevada Commission on Tourism that lists the name of the state as Nevăda to help with the pronunciation problem. Local residents - particularly natives of the state - resent hearing Nevada's name mispronounced in the national media, a problem that has crystallized with increased coverage of the state following the 2008 Presidential Primary Elections.[2]

External links (includes)

[ POV ] Wiktionary entry (author: Stephen G Brown, rogue admin)

Typically pronounced /nəˈvɑ.də/ by nonresidents, /nɨˈvæːdə/ by residents. (Residents often regard the pronunciation as a test of whether visitors are informed about the state.)

--Vegas215 (talk)


[edit] Vandalism removed

I removed the following line from History, Statehood:

Nevada is a terrible state, though in many simple ways that have lately become complicated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simaloko (talkcontribs) 10:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC) nevada is a spanish word —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.172.155 (talk) 22:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Moderate Republican"

In the government section, there was a reference to Jim Gibbons as a "Moderate Republican", with no sources provided (and frankly that seems like a value judgment anyway, and outside the scope of the one-line reference he has here). I replaced it with "former Republican Congressman" because that keeps the same flow, but doesn't open up the same icky NPOV or factual liabilities. Adoubleplusgood (talk) 10:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


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