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[edit] Paragraph added to the "History" section of the article on Hastings, New Zealand, on 31 December 2006

This paragraph is derived from pages 16 to 21 of the following authoritative history:

Boyd, Mary Beatrice (1984) City of the Plains - A History of Hastings, Victoria University Press for the Hastings City Council

I felt that the pre-existing section on the naming of Hastings needed to be amended because it was historically inaccurate. The idea that Hastings was once called Hicksville makes an entertaining and amusing yarn, which has been widely circulated and accepted by many. It has a superficial credibility beacause Francis Hicks was a genuine historical figure. However, the Hicksville story needs to be relegated to the category of urban myth before it is propogated any further.

Regards

Ross Weenink —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.97.238.61 (talk) 00:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC).

That's great. Thanks both for correcting the article, and for coming back and adding the source.-gadfium 00:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Small request and question

Hi Gadfium. I have accidentially created this subpage on my user talk page. How do I delete it, some searching on help did not find anything? Just wanting to be tidy, as I have a pedantic soul! ;-) MadMaxDog 14:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

User talk:MadMaxDog/archive005

Put {{db-userreq}} on it. In general, for any page you want speedy deleted, you can use {{deletebecause}} (or its shorthand equivalent, {{db}}) and explain why. -gadfium 18:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Gracias. MadMaxDog 02:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Please block User:DaJAG as per his edit on Sulawesi and his comment on his own ~~talk~~ user page. MadMaxDog 00:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone else already blocked him. Please use WP:AIV for such reports as many admins watch that page.-gadfium 01:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I am confused.

Do we need this classification at the bottom? The genus Apteryx is the only one in it's family, so the title category has no purpose that I can find. Teak the Kiwi 01:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Articles should not, in general, be in both a category and its subcategory. The individual articles should be in Category:Apteryx, but a case could be made for scrapping this category entirely and putting the articles into Category:Apterygidae instead, since otherwise Apterygidae would have only one sub category and no articles. If you want to make such a case, a good place to initiate discussion would be at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds.-gadfium 02:34, 2 January 2007 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kiwi"

Do you mean the apteryx category should be deleted or should the apteygidae category be deleted? Thanks, Teak the Kiwi 02:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The simplest solution is to remove the apterygidae category from each of the articles. You can do this yourself. This leaves the apterygidae category with no articles and only one subcategory.

The rest of what I said was another way of approaching the problem which might be controversial, and can be ignored.-gadfium 02:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Got it. Teak the Kiwi 03:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright

Hi Gadfium, sorry to bother you this (I think I asked you related questions before...) but can we use images created in 1926? Specifically talking about images on this page:

http://www.aucklandcitylibraries.com/heritage/localhistory/aucklandcity/aucklandswaterfront

The images would be quite useful for an article on Commercial bay that I'd like to write... MadMaxDog 10:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Copyright in New Zealand is for the life of the author plus 50 years. There's a summary of the Copyright Act 1994 here. An image created by someone whose death date you don't know is not safe to assume to be in the public domain. You could email the Auckland Public Library and ask them. My experience of making a similar request for photos of the 1931 Hawkes Bay earthquake at the Hastings Library was that they were very helpful, but the outcome was that they decided they had no right to display the photos I was interested in either, and they removed them from their website!-gadfium 18:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Hhhhmmm, what about the Auckland Harbour Plan of 1926 - this obviously wouldn't be an 'artwork', but I can't see the summary treat that case. Any idea where to search or what applies? MadMaxDog 11:38, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Probably a literary work. Presumably, it wouldn't come under any of the provisions in section 27 of the Copyright Act here. It depends on whether the copyright is held by the multiple people who drew up the plan, or by the organisation which hired those people. If there are multiple people holding copyright, it is unlikely to have expired, since if any one person lived just 31 years after publication, the copyright is still in force. I think under section 21 of the Act, it is more likely to be owned by the organisation, and I am not sure how the provisions for death plus 50 years applies to organisations. I am not a lawyer; you need better advice than I can give you. I suggest you copy this conversation to the NZ Wikipedian's notice board, and perhaps add a pointer to the discussion at WP:HD, making it clear that the point which needs to be clarified is when copyright held by an organisation expires.-gadfium 18:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:GLBT New Zealand

Would you be able to move this to Category:LGBT New Zealand please. The latter seems to be the order that every other article in Wikipedia uses (sigh). - SimonLyall 23:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it's a speedy candidate, so I've added it to WP:CFR. I think Category:LGBT in New Zealand might be better.-gadfium 00:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - SimonLyall 00:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General Contact Vehicle

Hi Gadfium. Any idea what a GCV would be? I haven't see it in any of the novels, and I was unsure if my temporary description is correct.

Ship_types_of_the_Culture#General_Contact_Vehicle

MadMaxDog 01:09, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe this class is used in Excession, as the GCV Steely Glint.

Shrike suggests it might have been a typo for either GSV or GCU. This inconclusive discussion is the most detailed that I'm aware of.-gadfium 01:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Favour needed

Hi Gadfium - I need a favour :)

{{Cyprus-stub}} is supposed to be used for the entire island of Cyprus, both the Greek part and the Turkish part. Because of that, using the flag as an icon was deemed by WikiProject Stub sorting to be too provocative (the Turks on Cyprus use a different flag) and a map of the island was used instead. Unfortunately, a handful of (presumably Greek Cypriot) anons continually replace the map with a flag, leading to complaints to stub-sorters from Turkish Cypriots about our "bias'. The template really needs protecting in its map form. Unfortunately, I've done a bit of reverting to the map, so I technically shouldn't be the person doing the page protection. Any chance you can protect it to admin-only editing? Cheers, Grutness...wha? 23:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I've semi-protected it. Semi-protection is usually removed after a few weeks or a month, but that may be long enough for the anons to have lost interest. If you need permanent or full protection, or for such requests in future, WP:RFPP is the best place to make requests.-gadfium 00:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Cheers:) Grutness...wha? 00:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks like I'm going to have to take it there - I suggested admin-only for a reason - the reversion probleem isn't from anons. Grutness...wha? 05:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

My apologies, I missed the admin-only in your request. However, I think if well-established users are changing the template, then it becomes a content dispute, and negotiation, mediation or (as a last resort) discipline are necessary rather than protection.-gadfium 05:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. I've takn it to RFPP anyway (all negotiation has failed in the past). Grutness...wha? 05:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry hit the wrong button

I had acidentally reverted your revert on Seed. I also had inadvetantly gave you a vandal warning..... SORRY! I undid both. <blush> Jerry lavoie 02:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I noticed! I understand that when vandal reverting, it's easy to be a little quick off the mark. In this case, it would have helped if I'd used an edit summary rather than admin rollback, but the anon had placed similar text dumps in several articles so I was reverting in the most efficient way.-gadfium 02:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:AnnetteKing.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:AnnetteKing.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. MECU≈talk 23:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pavlova

Still waiting for you to explain the dispute on the talk page...-gadfium 23:30, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Get a life, Give it some time. I'm not on wikipedia 24/7 DXRAW 01:07, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ASUE

Hello, Gadfium/archive22 and thank you for your contributions on articles related to A Series of Unfortunate Events. I'd like to invite you to become a part of WikiProject A Series of Unfortunate Events, a WikiProject aiming to improve coverage of A Series of Unfortunate Events and related articles on Wikipedia.

If you would like to help out and participate, please visit the project page for more information. Thanks! <3Clamster 21:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't recall what contributions I have made to that series - most likely it was vandalism reversion. I have not read the books, and so I must decline your invitation.-gadfium 21:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Islands outside Territorial Authorities

Hi there, I took the discussion to the discussion page of the article in question, [1], hoping to invite people with local knowledge to resolve the open questions--Ratzer 20:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moeraki

I see your html note regarding the following reference for the Moeraki article.

Anderson, A., Allingham, B., & Smith, I. W. G. (1996). Shag River Mouth: the archaeology of an early southern Maori village, Canberra, Australia: The Australian National University. OCLC 34751263, ISBN 0-7315-0342-1.

How would you feel about eliminating the ISBN entirely from the reference listing? Unfortunately, publishers do publish ISBNs that are valid in that they exist but invalid in that they don't meet their own check digit requirements. So, because of the check digit problem, the article will forever be flagged by SmackBot as being in the category "Articles with invalid ISBNs." I would like to remove the ISBN to also remove this error tag from the page, giving it a better overall look. Please let me know what you think. Kind Regards, Keesiewonder 23:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Having the ISBN is convenient, so I would prefer a solution where SmackBot knows not to tag certain books or certain articles. This could be coded with an exclusion list, on a freely editable Wikipedia page, or by adding a special marker to such ISBNs, i.e. a template added which generates an html comment but no visible text, and SmackBot ignores any ISBN on the same line as such a comment.-gadfium 23:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good; I've tried to recommend a solution like this but haven't gotten very far. You have expressed it more eloquently than I have in the past ... so I will forward your request on to those who may be able to implement your suggestion. I'll leave the above mentioned reference as is. Thanks! Keesiewonder ^talk 00:10, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

p.s. Here's where I most recently requested it. Keesiewonder ^talk 00:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newyorkbrad's RfA

This is to thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Thanks also for your kind comments that accompanied your !vote, and as for ArbCom, I still think I was too new to see that position last November, but don't worry, there's another election this year. :) Best regards, Newyorkbrad 17:53, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Zealand constitutional crisis, 1984

Thanks. I wasn't sure of the title, I'm sure it's against some WP policy somewhere... but none I could find --Lholden 03:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General Wiki Edit Advice

Hi. Would you point me to some general wiki editing advice? It takes me a long time to edit an article, and yet I see some users with thousands of edits. How do they do it? Many of those will be reverts, or minor edits. In [collaborating in NZ articles] many of the topics are very advanced. But I see much of the material comes from text books. While everyone has an opinon on Education in NZ, for example, very little of it is represented in the article. How would anyone expect that article to get written without the help of an academic professional? Would collaboration be appropriate? Why? Withit 07:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, most people with thousands of edits are making very small edits. Some people here write lots of articles; they are the reason why Wikipedia is a success. Others copyedit articles, or revert vandalism; their work is vital too. The latter people tend to have much higher edit counts than the former. Most really active editors do a bit of both.

Wikipedia (and wiki collaborations in general) are an unexpected development which arose out of the internet. If you had suggested to anyone in 2000 that an encyclopedia that anyone could edit, and which had no paid employees (or almost none), could produce a generally reliable and hugely useful resource, you'd have been laughed at. Yet a few people decided to try it, and here we are. There are academic professionals who write articles here, but the majority of content is written by ordinary people who do the research they need to online or with books from the local library.

You seem to have made an excellent start with History of Education in New Zealand. Most articles get written a little piece at a time, with long breaks when no one does much. It certainly helps for one person to plan out the article and produce a reasonably well-fleshed first draft. From your userpage, it seems you are well-read on Wikipedia policies, so you probably don't need to be warned to be careful not to breach the copyright of your sources.

If you want other people to assist with this article, the first step is to place a few sensible links to it. I see there is already a link at History of education. It would be appropriate to also place a link in Education in New Zealand. All new articles about New Zealand topics can also be added to the new New Zealand pages list. This might get a few people looking at the article. If you know of other New Zealand teachers who are Wikipedians, you can ask them to help with the article too. If there's not much interest from those channels, you can add a request for review and collaboration at the talk pages of Wikiproject New Zealand or Wikiproject education. You can also ask for a peer review at Peer review.-gadfium 08:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move

Gadfium, Could you do me a favour please. Could you Move New Zealand greater short-tailed bat to New Zealand Greater Short-tailed Bat, Eastern moa to Eastern Moa, & Giant moa to Giant Moa? They should always have been with caps. I can do the redirects, etc. Thanks. GrahamBould 13:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Done. I've fixed the double redirects; it's optional to fix other links.-gadfium 18:39, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Gadfium GrahamBould 08:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chilean edits

Hello, Gadfium/archive22, since you have made several edits to articles about Chile, you may be interested in looking at the Wikipedia:Chile-related regional notice board to pick up on other topics that need attention, or to express needs which you perceive pertaining to Chile. JAXHERE | ^Talk 01:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Addressing the issue of world wide view

Hi, thanks for your feedback on this talk page. The issue of worldwide view has met me before. Here under batts of the common choice of residential insulator. The history is that I added a section which was rewritten to make the point described clearer. The tag was then added, but I feel that it is imposible to meet the standard required, and it was not from northern hemisphere. What does a worldwide view look like? Withit 08:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it's very difficult to address worldwide issues, particularly legal issues, in a general article. Usually, there are either separate articles for each country, for example Gay rights in New Zealand, or someone has done a lot of research to make a fairly comprehensive list, such as Domestic AC power plugs and sockets. I suggest you add a "See also" section to Fiscal Welfare with a link to the Working for Families article (marking it as being of relevance to New Zealand), and adding similar links to relevant articles on other countries you may be aware of.-gadfium 08:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Auckland Meetup

Thanks for the invite but I won't be able to make it - work unfortunately! In terms of FA's, I'd suggest attacking a well rounded NZ geo article, perhaps Auckland... Mostlyharmless 07:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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