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[edit] I've written a Wikispaces dialects module for HTML::WikiConverter

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I'd like to work with you to get it submitted to CPAN. How would you like to proceed? (I mailed you at diberri at cpan dot org but did not get a reply). Code and test code is temporarily at:

http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/browser/Trunk/contributors/MartinBudden/cpan/HTML-WikiConverter-Wikispaces-0.01

if you want to look at it.

Martin.Budden (talk) 13:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How About PubMedCentral

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I'd like to insert some references on Wikipedia from PubMedCentral, e.g. PMC1520442. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pagerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&artid=1520442&pageindex=1 It looks like it's currently not possible with your handy converter, but it would be cool if it was!

Sera Young (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

This seems easy enough. To help me get this implemented: if given a pubmedcentral article id, what template should be filled out? --David Iberri (talk) 17:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
{{PMC}} gives Full text at PMC: 123456. It would be nice if {{cite journal}} had a PMC parameter as seting "|id={{PMC|123456}}" will give a rather messy output for now. I'll go back to cite journal discussion and see if can regenerate a response on this. David Ruben Talk 20:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
{{cite journal}} now has a "|pmc = " parameter, any chance autofilling that if PubMed provides the link value ? David Ruben Talk 03:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Y Done. For example, [1]. --David Iberri (talk) 22:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
That was quick - Thanks :-) David Ruben Talk 00:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Happy to help. --David Iberri (talk) 17:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Given that {{PMC}} been used in some footnotes, can your tool take the pmc value and autofill a {{cite journal}} as it does with pmid values ? David Ruben Talk 02:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Good thinking. All done. [2] --David Iberri (talk) 22:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Wow - many thanks David Ruben Talk 22:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiConverter image attributes

Hello Dave, thanks for your WikiConverter. It is saving me hours and hours of work. One thing I haven't found yet is how to get it to preserve image size and alignment attribs.

I want to take:

<img src="img9.jpg" width="200" height="150" align="right" alt="A flower">

and make it

 [[Image:img9.jpg|right|200px|A flower]]

I can't find how to get it to pick up the width and align attributes. It is possibly in some documentation somewhere, but I haven't found it after extensive googling. Thanks in advance for taking the time to reply. ~princeofgonville —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princeofgonville (talkcontribs) 15:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template Filling: Year missing in {citebook}

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A new (to me) problem appeared when using your wonderful template filling tool. When starting with an ISBN number to create a filled {{{title}}}.  template, in some cases the year field is not populated. Here are 2 examples: ISBN 074328951X; ISBN 0802715303. Any idea what might be causing this? Thanks again for creating, donating, and maintaining such a useful tool for the Wikipedia community. Finell (Talk) 05:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

All fixed. [3] [4]. --David Iberri (talk) 19:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! If you don't mind my asking, how did something that used to work flawlessly break? Did [one of?] the reference database[s?] that your tool queries change its format? I'm curious. Thanks again. Finell (Talk) 22:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Must've been a change in the xml that PubMed generates, because the tool hasn't changed. --David Iberri (talk) 23:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you (and suggestions)

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I'm getting used to using your tool on pmid (etc) and it's a huge help. There are a couple of things I'm struggling with that might make it even more useful.

  1. I've been trying to grasp how we can set a stock set of option switches for an article or project. Is it as simple as setting them then making a specific bookmarklet for, say, WP:MEDMOS#Citing medical sources?
  2. Would it be possible to make hover text that shows the alternate representation? For instance, when hovering over et al. show the full list of authors. Likewise short/full versions of journal names (similar to the way that PubMed shows them) e.g.: et al.

Thank you for your great tool. LeadSongDog (talk) 22:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Glad to be of service.
  1. Bookmarklets are one solution. In Firefox, I set up a keyword search (right/ctrl-click on the pmid input field and choose "add keyword for this search" and then modify the bookmark generated by adding query parameters that match the options you want). Down the road, it's possible that something like this could be incorporated into the template tool, but I haven't found a clean way to do it just yet.
  2. This would be something to bring up at the talk pages of the various citation templates, as this feature would require a change to template code.

Thanks for the suggestions! --David Iberri (talk) 19:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion for citation tool

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First of all thousands thanks for the tool. It saved lots of time to created the references for the articles I created and edited. Just one suggestions: Sometimes there is both an URL and a DOI. Would it be possilbe just to add the DOI if a both the DOI and URL are present? e.g. see the recent edit in GPR55. Thanks! -- Panoramix303 (talk) 17:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

This has come up before (I think the conversation is on this talk page somewhere, or perhaps in the most recent archive), but I don't think a full solution was ever reached. I don't have a great sense for the best solution, but right now I would prefer to leave both URL and DOI on the template markup, and rely on the citation template to decide which one to display. Is that fair? --David Iberri (talk) 19:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Just to clarify things a bit, the user can optionally select "Add URL if available" on the on template filling tool page. Alternatively the user can manually delete the URL if a DOI is present. The DOI is definitely preferable to a URL (because of its persistence) and if a DOI is present, the URL should not be included because it is redundant. Therefore in my opinion, the best way to handle this is if a DOI is not returned then return a URL if available. Conversely if a DOI is returned, then don't return a URL. With this behavior, the "Add URL if available" check box become unnecessary and could be removed. Does this make sense? Cheers. Boghog2 (talk) 20:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it makes sense! I totally agree with you that the DOI is preferable to the URL. Remove the URL by hand is no problem, the great thing about the tool is just that it saves so much time. If would have this feature too it would be perfect but I can handle this little imperfection easily. Thanks! -- Panoramix303 (talk) 11:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I think I can agree with this solution. I've updated the tool in the latest version, which will be available soon. --David Iberri (talk) 19:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I've updated the Wikispaces dialects module for HTML::WikiConverter

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I've mailed you at diberri at cpan dot org but I don't think you regularly check that address, so this is to let you know there's a mail waiting there.

Martin.Budden (talk) 11:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Heh. Actually, I do regularly check that address, but just have a bad habit of not replying. :-) Thanks for updating me on the module. I'll see about adding it to the converter page soon. --David Iberri (talk) 20:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
And it's now online here. --David Iberri (talk) 17:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wish list

I have hesitated to ask for additional features in such an excellent, useful tool that you have taken the time to create and to maintain for free. But I do have a wish list for filling the the {{citebook}} template from an ISBN query:

  1. I would like to at least have the option of having the tool include those fields (with blank values) that it does not fill and that the user might want to fill manually (the same way the tool now provides a blank pages field). The fields I most often need to add are authorlink, url, editor, others (e.g., a translator), origyear (for a modern translation or edition of an old book), edition, language (for foreign language books), and quote.
    These fields are now available if you check the "show extended fields" option. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Of these fields, the information to fill editor, others, origyear, edition, and languageshould be in the ISBNdb database, but I do not know how difficult it would be to program your tool to extract it and use it to fill these fields.
    I haven't looked into this yet, but will eventually. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
  3. The way the tool populates the accessdate for an ISBN query is contrary to the {{citebook}} template's documentation: the field is to indicate when the Wikipedia editor accessed the book online, where the book is online and a URL is supplied. The date that the bibliographic data was retrieved from a database does not belong in the accessdate field for a book, even if the user checked the "Add access date" box when using the tool. Therefore, the tool should not populate the accessdate field in the {{citebook}} template. On the other hand, in populating the {{citeweb}} template, the date that the tool checks the Web page is reasonably safe for the accessdate field.
    I see. The tool no longer fills in the accessdate parameter. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
  4. Error trapping: When copying an ISBN from a Wikipedia ISBN link, it is easy (at least for me!) to accidentally include "ISBN" along with the number, which results in a "not found" error. Could the tool strip "ISBN", if present, from the search query?
    Done. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
  5. For the sake of flexibility, instead of the tool populating the author field, I would prefer that it populate the last and first fields for the first author and the coauthors field for all additional authors.
    This will happen soon. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Of course, if you did none of this, your tool is still an extraordinary contribution to the Wikipedia community, for which I and many others are grateful. Thank you, again. Finell (Talk) 03:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Thanks very, VERY much for all your excellent work, and also for being so repsonsive. Finell (Talk) 18:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More ISBN problems?

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Hi, many thanks for the very nice template filling tool. I found some more ISBNs that it does not handle althought the books definitely do exist, maybe it doesnt like German books for some reason? Example: http://diberri.dyndns.org/wikipedia/templates/?ddb=&type=isbn&id=3-437-22211-2 see eg http://www.elsevier.de/sixcms/media.php/792/VZ_Leitfaden.pdf Richiez (talk) 23:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

The output at [5] seems reasonable to me. Can you clarify the problem you're encountering with the tool? --David Iberri (talk) 13:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks, works miraculously now, previously it said "Could not find a book matching the given ISBN". Now I get the same type of error for ISBN 3-13-125342-8. Is this some kind of transient failure in the upstream server perhaps? Richiez (talk) 19:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Something like that, yes. The tool is subject to ISBNdb, which unfortunately is not an exhaustive database of all texts. However, it is constantly updated with new ISBN information, which explains why for some ISBNs, the template filling tool can go from nonfunctional to functional. --David Iberri (talk) 19:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, verified that the particular ISBN is missing from ISBNdb.com, many thanks anyways. Richiez (talk) 21:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Yet google ISBN 3-13-125342-8 does turn it up. LeadSongDog (talk) 22:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mayday mayday

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http://diberri.dyndns.org/wikipedia/templates/ isn't working. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Would you consider hosting your tool on http://wiki.ts.wikimedia.org/view/Main_Page JFW | T@lk 21:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Argh. This is a new problem -- the server is up, but the dns (http://dyndns.org) somehow dropped my account. I'll get to the bottom of this soon. JFW: yes, I am currently working on a portable solution that can be installed on the toolserver. It's almost ready for prime time. --David Iberri (talk) 23:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PMID give month ?

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Hi, when giving a PMID abstract number, could your code also provide the "|month= " parameter filled in and not just the "|year= " ? I think there had previously been a problem where your code worked if a single month specified, but if a range (eg "January/February") then somehow had misbehaved. David Ruben Talk 23:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I've added the month param. I don't recall the previous problem with month ranges you mention, but maybe I've just forgotten the problem. Let me know if any problems arise with the new addition. --David Iberri (talk) 23:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Journal

Would it be possible to add a mode for Template:Infobox Journal, populated from the NLM ID? Example URL = http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=nlmcatalog&doptcmdl=Expanded&cmd=search&Term=8610225[NlmId] (There also appears to be an XML link) --Arcadian (talk) 02:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but it'll have to hang out on the back burner until 1) I take my ob/gyn shelf exam and 2) I move the template builder over to the toolserver. --David Iberri (talk) 22:13, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Converter problems

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I tried using your HTML to wiki converter on the "page source" (via Firefox's "View/Page source" feature) of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages, and it came out looking like this.

Just thought you'd like to know.

The Transhumanist    21:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like you didn't enter values for the "base URL for relative links" and "URL for wiki links" fields. When I use http://en.wikipedia.org/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/, respectively, I get this gem, which looks decent to me. --David Iberri (talk) 22:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Nice! Thank you!!! By the way, it isn't clear what "URL for wiki links" and "Base URL for relative links" means (I've been here for over 2 years, and I still didn't know what you were referring to; "Encode HTML entities" is also unclear to me). Where is the documentation that explains these and how to use the converter? The Transhumanist    23:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Documentation is at CPAN. --David Iberri (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ISBN-13

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Your tool is a great time saver! It would be great if you could allow using ISBN 13 and not just ISBN 10. As it stands now, entering an ISBN 13 gives a 500 Server Error. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 23:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Not sure why it's not accepting ISBN-13s, but I'll look into it. For now, at least the ugly internal server error message is gone (I've replaced it with a more user-friendly message). --David Iberri (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Should be supporting ISBN-13 now. --David Iberri (talk) 18:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Journal links

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Hi, Diberri; thanks for the great tool (and good luck with the upcoming exam). Are you sure you want to automatically link journal names, without giving us the option to turn that off? It results in a sea of WP:OVERLINKing, as discussed here. Also, tonight the tool was returning page ranges with hyphens instead of endashes, in case you changed something in the recent beta version. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I would kindly but strongly suggest that the default is that journal linking is turned off, and the option provided being to turn it on. Where the journal has a WP article, it can result in excessive linkages, where there is no such WP article then a series of red links (not visible of course on previewing an edit until teh page is actually saved). Finally on rare occasions (eg PMID 11239616) it falsely will give a link to a topic ("contraception" in this case) rather than a journal. David Ruben Talk 22:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The auto-linking is actually a bug. I'll have it fixed this evening. --David Iberri (talk) 22:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I didn't get to it last night, and it's far too nice a day in New England to sit at the computer. :-) I'll get to it this evening. --David Iberri (talk) 14:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Default linking is disabled now, and the endash issue should be fixed. --David Iberri (talk) 07:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harvard template filling?

Hi, would it be possible to generate templates for harvard citations - Wikipedia:Harvard_citation_template_examples? It would be great if it could generate things like [{{Harv|Blust|1999}} automaticaly - rather error prone to do manually if there are many authors. Many thanks for looking at it. Richiez (talk) 22:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Hm. This is the first time I've heard of Harvard citation templates on Wikipedia. Nice to know they're there. I'm short on ideas of how to incorporate these different templates into the template filler. Let me think about it... --David Iberri (talk) 16:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
It is not important to ouput code for every single variant like harvnb or harvtxt - what matters most is to have author names and year filled out consistently so that the links are generated correctly. In principle there could be an option to generate both a cite template and the corresponding harv template in one go.Richiez (talk) 20:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I like your idea of adding an option for harvard templates. Would that option apply to multiple templates? Or would Template:Cite journal be the only one? --David Iberri (talk) 19:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for looking at your question so late, I am not entirely sure I understand what you are asking. I would use Harvard templates mainly for citing journals or books. So lets say I enter PMID XXXXX into your tool it would be nice if I would get {{harv|Blust|1999}} and {{cite journal| author=....}} in one go. Or maybe first the cite templates with links to generate the harvard template(s). Similar for ISBNsRichiez (talk) 10:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Latest version

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Congratulations on the new version launch, i find the tool indespensible in my editing, and look forward to adapting to the new format.

One comment or suggestion i would make is to add a 'Clear' button beside the Go function to aide speedy multiple citing, This need only be for the reference number box although clearing the last result at the same time would be useful Jagra (talk) 04:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I've added a link beside the submit button to clear the ID/reference number box. Is that in line with what you were thinking? --David Iberri (talk) 16:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image source problem with Image:LDH.PNG

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Image Copyright problem

Thanks for uploading Image:LDH.PNG. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 00:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Shell babelfish 00:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. --David Iberri (talk) 16:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with generated HTML

Two little html problems after the recent changes. First, the dash used in page ranges does not play well with some browsers. Would it be possible to generate &ndash or something similar? Second, some browsers take the textarea to be rows="4" cols="20" ignoring style, I think it would be a safe compromise to use cols=60 so most browsers make something sane out of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richiez (talkcontribs) 20:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I fixed the cols="60" problem, but I'm not sure what I can do about the unicode/ndash problem. I'd rather not output the ndash as an HTML entity, as that practice is generally discouraged on Wikipedia. Are you using a unicode-friendly browser? --David Iberri (talk) 22:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
My browser generally support unicode but not this particular symbol. My other browsers display either a dash or a waved line. Unicode defines approximately 16000 kinds of dashes, maybe a different one would work? But that is the problem with Unicode, I think for wikipedia it is the wrong way. Why use 0xe2,0x80,0x93 for a dash when ndash does it? The problem with this kind of unicode symbols is the differences are extremelly small or nonvisible in one browser/editor while you see a huge rendering difference in some other. The high numeric range of the symbol even makes me suspicious that the rendering might be langauage dependent although I have very little idea about unicode. What is wrong with ndash? My opinion would be to generate a plain minus - it is not unreasonable that cite template would recognise page ranges one day and insert the most reasonable symbol itself.Richiez (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to wrap my head around the problem. See if you can help me out. Right now the template filler decodes the &ndash; entity and displays it in the textbox, as in pp234–7. Are you proposing that it should generate pp234&ndash;7? --David Iberri (talk) 23:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Generating pp234&ndash;7 would certainly work best for me. Also pp234–7 displays correctly here, though it is less convenient to use. But what arrives here when I use wget or similar is a byte sequence of 0xE2,0x80,0x93 and that messes up the textbox of one browser.Richiez (talk) 19:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I still hesitate to use the en dash HTML entity because the MoS (last time I read it) discourages entities, recommending that unicode characters be used instead when possible. Also, Template:Cite journal uses and not &ndash;. So rather than using the en dash entity, I'd prefer to figure out why your browser isn't displaying the unicode character properly. Let me know if that seems reasonable. --David Iberri (talk) 19:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

(Unindeneted)
My browser problem is something that I personally could fix, perhaps upgrading some font related packages or whatever. Regarding HTML entities contra unicode characters I believe there must be a distinction: if you want a character like modern greek eta with a bunch of accents then unicode seems to be appropriate, especially in greek text. However if you want the mathematical symbol of kappa in a mathematical formula than unicode would be considered broken (and probably break rendering). Similarly, while many unicode symbols exist for sub- and superscripted numbers you would never have the idea to use those instead of the html notation. For me a page range is more like a mathematical formula than a text. Also I have no idea wheter you how you or your software decided that 0xE2,0x80,0x93 would be the ideal unicode character replacement for ndash but I suspect there will be dozens if not more that are hard to distinguish on some browsers and may produce very different results on others. Some of them might work better with my browser, it is in fact quite rare that it would not display a common unicode character. With ndash I know that I get a decent ndash whereas the unicode character displays for example a tilde like character in my version of Firefox. So not sure which way to proceed?Richiez (talk) 09:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

The template filler uses a Perl module called HTML::Entities to decode the &ndash; and output a in the textbox. It's the easiest solution from my perspective, but clearly it's not getting the job done perfectly. I'll try outputting &ndash; directly into the textbox so that it will render as . I wish I had time to work on this right now, but won't be able to get to it until mid next week. --David Iberri (talk) 13:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I've made a change to the entity-encoding process so that the raw endash is now encoded to &ndash; before it's output to the textarea. This ensures that your browser sees the HTML entity &ndash; and can properly render it as , avoiding the problem of your browser seeing a raw and having it barf when it tries to render it. Example at [6]. Let me know if this does the trick. --David Iberri (talk) 23:13, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, it is a lot better now. But as it is now the broswer will take the and convert it into its own version of dash which will get pasted into the cite form. In theory different browser/text editor combinations may do different things out of it. So I am wondering if it would not be better to quote the so the ndash html entity is pasted into the cite form instead of whatever the browser substitutes for it? Richiez (talk) 20:29, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Change is Wikipedia template filling cgi

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Did you change the cgi calls to the pmid/isbn citation generator? I notice that bookmarklets to the script no longer are working. - 129.111.16.109 (talk) 10:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Whoops. Yes, I did change the URLs for the citation builder/template filler. I've just now installed redirects from the old URL to the new one, so maybe the bookmarklets have been saved. --David Iberri (talk) 23:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
The pmid is now passed, but other fields such as add_ref_tag=1 and add_text_url=1 are not being passed. I can change the bookmarklets (at least the ones I have written) if it is easier. Thanks - Badgettrg (talk) 15:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Of course. I hadn't thought of that. :-) The best solution would be to update the bookmarklet to avoid this hassle altogether. --David Iberri (talk) 19:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template

Thanks for your note on my talk page Lisa4edit. At first glance I'd say I'll have to refer to an expert to use this. Without further explanation (which may well be available at someplace in Wikipedia I haven't run into yet) this is not of that much use for "dummies" and "fossils" like me. I gave up programming back when Assembler got out of fashion and have to learn lots of new stuff just to get the most basic editing right. I'll try to look into it further. The article I'm currently colaborating on Hip dysplasia (human) has more than 20 references thus far and we're not done putting all of it together yet. I assume the template would only be for a couple of pointers and not for all pubmed or medical journal text references?? Thank goodness Arcadian, whom we've managed to rope in for the project, seems to know a lot about this kind of stuff. Not that I'd not be willing to learn. Thanks for sharing the link. --71.236.23.111 (talk) 04:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It took me a while to figure out what you were talking about (after all, I never left you a message on your talk page), but I finally got it. :-) Anyhow, the tool is intended for Wikipedians that use citation templates as their method of inserting references into articles. I haven't looked at Hip dysplasia (human) to see what citation format it's using, but if you're not familiar with citation templates such as {{cite journal}}, then it's no surprise you don't find the template filler self explanatory. :-) --David Iberri (talk) 12:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ChemBox suggestion

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It is great to get the ChemBox template via the PubChem number but of course there is one suggestion. Is it possible to get the whole ChemBox template with all the fields, even if they are empty? Otherwise you have to copy&paste the missing fields. Thanks! -- Panoramix303 (talk) 00:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Additional fields are available by clicking the "show extended fields" checkbox. --David Iberri (talk) 02:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ISBN not working

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Last few days trying to get a cite book for ISBN numbers gives an error. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much for letting me know. This was a problem with a code change I recently made, and is now fixed. --David Iberri (talk) 22:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Diberri's tool"

Hi, just seen your tool for extracting {{cite journal}}s from PMIDs etc. I've written something similar that works with DOIs and even Google Scholar. Perhaps when your exams are over you would be interested in integrating the two so that medics and scientists can use the same central resource? Smith609 Talk 22:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Ooh, that sounds very interesting... Very impressive work. I'd definitely like to pursue a merger. What language is your tool written in? --David Iberri (talk) 23:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] JSPWiki dialect module for HTML::WikiConverter

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Hi, I've mailed a JSPWiki dialect module for the HTML2Wiki converter to diberri at cpan dot org.

It would be extremely useful to us if this could be included!

Thanks for considering it! Andreaw 02uk (talk) 15:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Done! Thanks for your help. Might you consider sharing the code via CPAN? --David Iberri (talk) 00:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harvard templates again

Hi, I played around with it and created a ruby script to do the job. It has only passed a few simple tests, Look on my user page for details - Richiez (talk) 00:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Down again

Your citation tool is up and down more often than a whore's knickers, my friend. Can't you host it elsewhere? ► RATEL ◄ 07:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Getting the tool installed on the wiki toolserver is a little difficult (for me at least). But I'm working on it. :-) --David Iberri (talk) 14:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template wizard

Firstly, thank you for your wonderful tool!

Here are a few feature requests:

  • Organic Syntheses references. Use {{OrgSynth}}; the unique id is the volume/pages or collvol/collvolpages (see template for documentation). Is it possible to pull the author and title, and output it properly formatted?
  • Search via DOI to give a formatted {{cite journal}} entry. The vast majority of DOIs point to journals, though some point to books and book chapters. Defaulting to cite journal should be fine though.

I know you're doing this out of your own time, so there's no stress here. But, if you can, it'd be nice. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 16:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstarification

The E=mc² Barnstar Awared to David Iberri for his hard work on Wikipedia, and in particular his coding of the excellent citation tool, which has made Wikipedia a better place for those striving for verifiability and high-level citation. JFW / t@lk 22:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
The E=mc² Barnstar Awared to David Iberri for his hard work on Wikipedia, and in particular his coding of the excellent citation tool, which has made Wikipedia a better place for those striving for verifiability and high-level citation. JFW / t@lk 22:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

After all those gripes about your tool not working, needing improvements etc I thought it would be nice to confer this nice barnstar on you. I'm not sure how I would survive citation on large articles if not for your brainchild. I hope you continue to succeed in your studies and join our noble profession with the same dedication you have shown to your fellow Wikipedians. JFW | T@lk 22:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


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