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[edit] Requested move
- It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. –Hajor 02:01, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Sid Eudy → Sid Vicious – 'Sid Vicious' is the stage name of pro wrestler Sid Eudy. it is under this name that has won ALL of his numerous titles, including the titles in WCW and the WWF (now WWE). As per Wikipedia policy, I ask his entry be moved to his widely known stage name and out of his unknown (by large) real name.
- Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
- Oppose.Bad idea, as Eudy has numerous names he's known by: Sid Vicious, Sid Justice, Sycho Sid, and simply Sid. In fact, he never competed in WWF/E using the Sid Vicious moniker; the titles he won there were mostly as Sycho Sid. Sid's one of the gray areas where it's best to use his real name, for lack of a ust clarifying a part in tbetter option. --HBK 04:19, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- oppose obviously Lol - Jooler 10:58, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose he wasn't known as Sid Vicious until after the stabbing incident. McPhail 12:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC). and suffixes should be avoided. McPhail 12:34, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose per heartburn kid. Youngamerican 14:13, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose any move. As noted before, he has competed under many names, and he never used "Sid Vicious" in WWF/E. — Dale Arnett 21:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose any move. As already stated Sid Eudy has competed under various names. The name Sid Vicious is an obvious play off the Sex Pistols punk rocker. He was known as Sid Vicious in WCW prior to the stabbing incident, WWF/E changed his name to Sycho Sid as a rib on the incident. Kyros 08:25, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- SupportHe has more ring time as Sid Vicious(I think), and that was his moniker when he hit the big time in '89. It's what I searched for when I first did a search for him.(Halbared 17:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC))
- Oppose - Just comment on stage names in the opening paragraph and redirect from "Psycho Sid", and "Sid Vicious" and what other ones their needs to be. JohnstonDJ 04:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose - John Simon Ritchie was known as "Sid Vicious" throughout his relatively short career. Nobody outside of his family and friends knew him as any other name, and that's the name he's remembered by today. Sid Eudy wrestled under a variety of gimmicks before Sid Vicious, including Lord Humongous, and four or so gimmicks he had in WWE ("Sid Justice", "Psycho Sid", "Sycho Sid", "S.I.D."). So while he started and finished out his WCW career as Sid Vicious, he's had too many gimmicks for his entry to be moved to just one. Think of Charles Wright. He was Papa Shango, Kama Mustafa, The Godfather, etc. Too many wrestling gimmicks to move an entry to just one name.
SIDE-NOTE: Eudy said in an interview that he wanted to use "Sid Vicious" during his WWE stints, but WWE Legal told him that "Sid Vicious is copyrighted by a punk-rock singer." Sid replied, "The guy's dead," but the lawyers told him that his mother owns the name. If this is true, then legally the "Sid Vicious" entry belongs to Ritchie. Haha. Barrelofagun —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.242.16.147 (talk) 07:10, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Statistics
"In the year that he threatened Pillman with a squeegee, Sid was 6'6 and 280. I doubt he put on much weight since that time."///// I'm new at this, but let me comment about Sid Eudy's supposed physical stature. I have noticed that Sid is at least a couple inches taller than Hulk Hogan, who is generally said to be 6'7". At least that's what it looks like on "teewee!" Does Sid wear elevator boots? As far as Sid's weight is concerned, he always looked to me like he weighed considerably more than the stated 317! 380# may not be overstating it. Anyway you look at him, he is a big, big man, Big Sid! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.54.154.114 (talk) 12:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
why did someone link to celebheights.com for his true height, that is entertainment based website and nothing more. The editor freely admits he doesn't know sid's true height —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.116.121 (talk) 00:31, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
- Add any additional comments
Sid Vicious is currently an article about the punk rocker. Would you like Sid Eudy to be moved perhaps to Sid Vicious (wrestler)? -- Rick Block (talk) 23:10, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Would Support. Moving the article to Sid Vicious (wrestler) seems to me to be the best option. TruthCrusader
As per Wikipedia policy, I have asked this entry to be moved to 'Sid Vicious' TruthCrusader
- Next time you want to request a move or vote on a WP:RM RTFM. WP:RM#To request a page move, follow this three-step process -- Philip Baird Shearer 19:26, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Did any of you know that he was slated to lose to Hogan's legdrop of doom at WM8? But he went into busines for himself and kicked out:oD(Halbared 11:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC))
It is a matter of dispute whether he was suppose to kick out of the legdrop or if Charles Wright aka Papa Shango missed his mark to interfere. Some accuse Sid of purposely kicking out and this lead to his termination. Kyros 02:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sid in Stampede Wrestling?
I read on ObsessedWithWrestling.com that Sid Vicious was in Stampede Wrestling during the 2000's or so. I want to know if anyone can verify this. fishhead2100 12:03PM, April 27 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, it is possible that he competed in smaller wrestling federations (as is the norm in most wrestling promotions with the exception of TNA) while he worked at WCW. That is very possible, but difficult to verify.--Screwball23 talk 20:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bischoff, not Russo; scissors, not squeegee.
The presumably embarrassing confrontation with Pillman would later be referenced by Vince Russo as he stripped Eudy of his WCW World Heavy title and, in response to Eudy's reaction, said something along the lines of "What are you going to do? Are you going to go and get your squeegee?"
The above paragraph is innaccurate. It was Eric Bischoff who confronted Sid to strip him of the WCW World Heavyweight title on the April 10, 2000 edition of Nitro, pointedly asking Sid if he was "going to get his scissors" when he initially refused to hand over the title. This should be corrected in the article.
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- Sorry, I added that. Although it appears the piece has been erased entirely. I think it was a perfectly fine statement to leave in, given it was corrected. -- Caleson 6/23/06
[edit] Discrete Vandalism
Last sentence in 'Career' Section:
He competed mainly on the Memphis, Tennessee, and Georgia wrestling circuits where he captured several regional STDs.
Just wondering in the last sentence what is meant by STD's? Is this vandalism, or does it have a different meaning. And if it does I believe it should be clarified in the article JohnstonDJ 04:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
In the 'Back in WCW' section this appears in the last sentence:
Eudy has since apologized to Anderson for the incident and the pair are on magic mushrooms today.
I will correct this but these two items I've found has lead me to believe that their has been a lot of discrete vandalism on these pages. I wont have caught it all, and If someone more clued up than me on the subject can give it a browse and check, that would be much appreciated. JohnstonDJ 04:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Looking through I have found another couple, they seem to be at the end's of sections, just stupid one-line pieces of junk. JohnstonDJ 04:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Urban legends"
This section currently reads:
- Among wrestling fans and fellow wrestlers, Eudy developed a colorful reputation that spawned several urban legends and amusing anecdotes. Besides his confrontation with Arn Anderson, Eudy allegedly was involved in a bar fight with wrestler Brian Pillman. It is said that Eudy fled the bar only to return, brandishing a squeegee as a weapon. The attempted threat would result in mere laughter among the bar's inhabitants.
- At a house show, not Wrestlemania 13, one popular urban myth is that, during his match with The Undertaker, Sid had soiled himself shortly after the match had begun, which ended with a tombstone finisher from the unknowing 'Taker. The Undertaker confirmed this story in an interview on the TSN show Off the Record. [citation needed]
Personally, I'm inclined to believe both stories. But Wikipedia policy clearly states: Controversial material that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous. (See the top of this page.) Can anyone defend the inclusion of these uncited, unsourced claims? Should we open an RFC on the Living Persons Biographies Noticeboard, or should we just delete the entire section? Cribcage 05:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Controversial or not, Sid pooped his pants and everybody knows it. It's real, it's DAMN real. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.69.137.201 (talk) 05:38, 10 January 2007 (UTC).
*At a house show, not Wrestlemania 13, one popular urban myth is that, during his match with The Undertaker, Sid defecated in his tights shortly after the match had begun, which ended with a Tombstone Piledriver from the unknowing Undertaker. The Undertaker confirmed this story in an interview on the TSN show Off the Record. His high school principal confirmed that Sid had bowel control problems all through school. He even joked that he once took a crap in the lunch room when he turned his back to the potatoes to grab a spoon. "Haha, yeah, old Sid sharted all over the potatoes, and people thought it was the new chunky gravy. It was amazing."
I can find nothing that references this event on Google except sites that syndicate the content from this page. I have removed it rather than requested citation because it seems closely connected with other simple vandalism by anon IPs on this page and because nobody has given a reference in response to the earlier posts here. If anyone can provide a citation for this claim please add it back in. Feebtlas 15:03, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Agreed. The video of Undertaker on TSN's Off The Record was circulating (albeit illegally) on Youtube for a while. Undertaker made NO reference to Sid ever defecating himself. It's just another silly wrestling rumor with zero factual basis other than hearsay; just like the "two Ultimate Warriors" myth. Complete nonsense. Barrelofagun69 22:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC) Barrelofagun69
He's huge, about 6 ft 7 ish, and 300 lbs.
[edit] Possible Return To WWE
Sid Eudy claims to have a new gimmick which could mean big bucks for the WWE. Whether or not WWE is interested in re-signing Sid has yet to be confirmed. Падший ангел 07:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Theme Song
Anyone know the name and band who performed his theme song during his last years at WCW? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.113.79.150 (talk) 07:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Early Career
This paragraph is a mess. I did what I could, but it has absolutely no flow, rhyme or rhythm. It seems like a bunch of random facts glued together. The first three sentences make no sense. A reader has no idea what this means.
Sid Eudy entered the wrestling industry after an encounter with Randy Savage and his brother Lanny Poffo. What happened on that encounter? Was it kayfabe, a meeting outside of the ring, inside the ring?
Eudy was trained by Tojo Yamamoto. Okay, when and where?
In his debut match, Eudy teamed with Austin Idol and wrestled the team of Nick Bockwinkel and Jerry Lawler. What year? Wait, what happened between Eudy/Savage and Poffo? I'm confused Angrymansr 20:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
