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Welcome to my talk page. Feel free to leave me messages or even flaming bags filled with poo.

At least 100 years ago I archived a few years worth of people's comments. And then I did it again! I'll keep doing it, over and over, as hard as I can.

I award you The Purple Star for getting a bad rap for being a good editor. I thank you for defending Wikipedia against sockpuppets and other vandals. Let's hope future Purple Hearts won't be necessary. - Jeffpw
I award you The Purple Star for getting a bad rap for being a good editor. I thank you for defending Wikipedia against sockpuppets and other vandals. Let's hope future Purple Hearts won't be necessary. - Jeffpw
Defender of the Wiki
I award SchmuckyTheCat the Defender of the Wiki Barnstar for his fearless, persistent determination in upholding the light of knowledge in the face of overwhelming darkness and ignorance. —Viriditas | Talk 12:32, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] help in making a new page

Hi.
I found an interesting person in artificial intelligence community.
Mentifex is his name.
There are many people that want to know who is him.
Also there are some articles wrote about him some that look like a biography.
I think he should have a page on Wikipedia but I dont know how to make this page and maybe you want to help.
here are some links: [1] or [2]
I think he should have an article not because what he is doing is true but because the whole phenomenon is interesting - he is fighting for his ideas even when he becomes ridiculous.
He might very well become a reference for such individuals.
Also I dont know what are the rules about making pages about people so it might not be allowed to be done... Raffethefirst (talk) 11:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

When the subject becomes the subject of many reliable sources then Wikipedia will write about him. That does not currently appear to be the case. this tells me everything I need to know. If he gets an article on Wikipedia, it is not likely to be because of his ideas on artificial intelligence. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] ED DRV

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008_March_6#Encyclopedia_Dramatica

can you please weigh in on this, and get people you know to as well? --Truthseeq (talk) 05:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Wikipedians by religion

We've been through this before, but I thought I would give you a courtesy request for you to remove this category from your userpage once again before I open up a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) about the acceptability of this, as the previous discussion didn't result in any difinitive answer. VegaDark (talk) 05:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Hyacinth/User_categories#Proposal_A:_Collaborative_statement_requirement That sure looks like a lot of opposition to the basic arguments used at UCFD. Two years worth of discussion has failed to get even a guideline for user categories, eh? And you're threatening to get more cop-like? SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] Hello

I think the article must adhere to its sources, none of which refers to "Republic of China". "Taiwan Province of China" is used on its sources.Please check the source: [Gross domestic product, current prices]. Thank you!

[edit] Please put this on the Talk:Homeopathy Page and mention it is posted by me

Dear Schmucky,
Please put this on the Talk:Homeopathy Page and mention it is posted by me (or else the others may think I've bribed you); I'm not yet able to post there directly myself because the Page is semi-writeprotected.

Here are some of the studies/clinical trials:-

STUDIES OF THE ACTIVITY OF HOMEOPATHIC MEDICINES

ORIGINAL/TRANSLATED TITLE AUTHOR(S) PUBLICATION ACTIVITY STUDY

Inhibition of lymphoblast transformation test (LTT) in phytohaemagglutinin (PHA) with Phytolacca americana in homeopathic dilution

Colas H.,

Aubin M.,

Picard P.,

Lebecq J.C.

Ann. Homéopat.

Fr., 1975, 6: 1-11.

Inhibitory

Lymphoblast

transformation

Inquiry into the limits of biological effects of chemical compounds in tissue culture. I. Low dose effects of mercure chloride

Mansvelt J.D.,

van Amons E.

Z. Naturtorschung,

       

1975, 30:

643-649.

Inhibitory

Lymphocyte

growth

The effects of Belladonna and Ferrum phosphoricum on the chemoluminescence of human poly-morphonuclear neutrophils

Poitevin B.,

Aubin M.,

Royer J.F.

Ann. Homéop. Fr.,

       

1983, 3: 5-12.

Inhibitory

Radical release

Effect of aconitum and veratrum

on the isolated perfused heart of

the common eel (Anguilla anguilla)

Pennec J.P.,

Aubin M.

Comp. Biochem.

Physiol., 1984,

776: 367-369.

Protective Aconitine toxicity

Elements of homeopathic

pharmacology

Aubin M.

Homéopathie

Franç., 1984, 72:

231- 235

Protective Aconitine toxicity

The effect of homeopathic

preparations on the phagocyte

activity of granulocytes. In vitro

tests and double-blind controlled

trials

Wagner H.,

Jurcic K.,

Doenicke A.,

Rosenhuber E.,

Behrens N.

Arzneim.

Forsch./Drug Res.,

       

1986, 36:

1424-1425.

Stimulant Phagocytosis

Approach to quantitative analysis

of the effect of Apis mellifica on

the degranulation of human

basophils cultivated in vitro

Poitevin B.,

Aubin M.,

Benveniste J.

Innov. Tech. Biol.

Med., 1986, 7:

64-68.

Inhibitory

Basophil

degranulation

In vitro stimulation of human granulocytes and lymphocytes by pico- and femtogram quantities of cytostatic agents

Wagner H.,

Kreher B.,

Jurcic K.

Arzneim. Forsch./Drug Res., 1988, 38: 273-275.

Stimulant

Lymphocyte

growth

Human basophil degranulation triggered by very dilute antiserum against IgE

Davenas E., Beauvais F., Amara J., Robinson M., Miadonna A., Tedeschi A., Pomeranz B., Fortner P., Belon P., Sainte-Laudy J., Poitevin B., Benveniste J.

Nature, 1988,

333: 816-818.

Stimulant

Basophils

In vitro immunological

degranulation of human basophils

is modulated by lung histamine

and Apis mellifica

Poitevin B.,

Davenas E.,

Benveniste J.

Brit. J. Clin.

Pharmacol., 1988,

25: 439-444.

Inhibitory

Basophil

degranulation

Cytotoxic agents as

immunomodulators

Wagner H.,

Kreher B.

Proc. of the 3rd

GIRI meeting,

Paris, 1989, 31-

46.

Stimulant

Lymphocyte

growth

Contributions of fundamental

research in homeopathy

Boiron J.,

Belon P.

Berl. J. Res. Hom.,

       

1990, 1: 34-35.

Inhibitory

Basophil

degranulation

Synergism of action between

indoleacetic acid (IAA) and highly

diluted solutions of CaCO3 on the

growth of oat coleoptiles

Bornoroni C.

Berl. J. Res. Hom.,

       

1991, 1 (4/5):

275-278.

Stimulant

Growth of plant

cells

Study of the action of

Hahnemannian dilutions of

mercury chloride on the mitotic

index in animal cell cultures.

Boiron J.,

Abecassis J.,

Cotte J.,

Bernard A.M.

Ann. Homéop.

Fr., 1991, 23:

43-49.

Protective Hg toxicity

Dual effects of formylpeptides on

the adhesion of endotoxin-primed

human neutrophils

Bellavite P.,

Chirumbolo S.,

Lippi G.,

Andrioli G.,

Bonazzi L.,

Ferro I.

Cell. Biochem.

Funct., 1993, 11:

231-239.

Inhibitory

Cell adhesion

(bact. pept.

10-8-10-9)

Effects of homeopathic

preparations of organic acids and

of minerals on the oxidative

metabolism of human neutrophils

Chirumbolo S.,

Signorini A.,

Bianchi I.,

Lippi G.,

Bellavite P.

Br. Hom. J., 1993,

82: 227-244.

Inhibitory

Leucocyte

activation

(metabolism)

Platelets/endothelial cells

interactions in presence of

acetylsalicylic acid at ultra low

dose

Doutremepuich

C.,

Lalanne M.C.,

Ramboer I.,

Sertillanges

M.N.,

De Seze O.

Omeomed 92 (C.

Bornoroni, ed.),

       

1993, Editrice

Compositori,

Bologna:

109-115.

Inhibitory

Prostacyclin

release

Effect of high dilutions of epidermal

growth factor (EGF) on in vitro

       

proliferation of keratinocyte and

fibroblast cell lines

Fougeray S.,

Moubry K.,

Vallot N.,

Bastide M.

Br. Hom. J., 1993,

82: 124-125.

Inhibitory

Growth of

keratinocytes

Effects of different homeopathic

potencies of Lachesis on

lymphocyte cultures obtained

from rabbit blood

Enbergs H.,

Arndt G.

Biol. Tier., 1993,

4.

Stimulant

Mitotic and

immunostimulating

activity (bact. pept

10-5-10-6)

The effect of homeopathic

potencies of housedust mite on

the migration of house-dust sensitive

human leukocytes

Gibson S.L.,

Gibson R.G.

Complement.

Ther. Med., 1996,

4: 169-171.

Stimulant

Leucocyte

chemotaxis

The effects of Nux vomica

Homaccord and Atropinum comp.

on intestinal activity in vitro

Kanui T.I.,

Enbergs H.

Biol. Tier., 1996/1,

43-47.

Stimulant

Contraction of

intestinal muscles

Application of flow cytometry to

the analysis of the

immunosuppressive effect of

histamine dilutions on human

basophil action: effect of

cimetidine

Sainte-Laudy J.,

Belon P.

Inflamm. Res.,

       

1997, 46:

S27-S28.

Inhibitory

Basophil

degranulation

Effects of Podophillum pellatum

compounds in various

preparations and dilutions on

human neutrophil functions in

vitro

Chirumbolo S.,

Conforti A.,

Lussignoli S.,

Metelmann H.

et Al.

Br. Hom. J., 1997;

86-16.

Inhibitory

Release of

superoxides

In vivo and in vitro studies on the

efficiency of potentized and nonpotentized

substances

Harisch G.,

Dittmann J.

BT, 1997, 2;

40-46.

Difference between

potentised and

non-potentised

substances

In vivo and in

vitro study; basic

research

Experiments with the effects of

Ubichinon-Injeel and strong

Ubichinon-Injeel on an acellular

system

Harisch G.,

Dittmann J.

BM, 1997, 3;

99-104.

Different effects of

associations of

various potencies and

individual potencies

In vitro study;

basic research

Efficacy of the homeopathic drugs

Suis and Arnica comp.-Heel® on

lymphocyte and phagocyte

activity

Enbergs H.

BM, 1998, 1;

3-11.

Effect of

organotherapeutics

and Arnica comp. -

Heel® on immune

system cells

In vitro study;

basic research

Influence of dilutions and

potencies of cAMP on different

enzymatic systems

Harisch G.,

Dittmann J.

BM, 1998, 2;

55-62.

Effects of dilutions

and potencies of

cAMP on some

enzymatic activities

In vitro study;

basic research

Studies of the principles of

homeopathy; the changeover

from in vivo to in vitro

       

experimental research

Harisch G.,

Dittmann J.

BM, 1998, 3;

98-103.

Potentised and

non-potentised

dilutions are

equally effective,

but have different

actions

Basic research

Determination of the activity of acid phosphatase with cAMP at various potencies

Harisch G.,

Dittmann J.

BM, 1999, 1; 4-8.

Different effects on enzymatic activity

In vitro study;

basic research

Contribution to study of the

efficacy of homeopathic potencies

of phosphorus

Gomez J.C.

BT, 1999, 2;

53-57.

Effect of different

potencies of

phosphorus

Tests on guinea

pigs

Determination of the activity of

acid phosphatase in the presence

of Ubichinon comp.

Harisch G.,

Dittmann J.

BM, 1999, 4;

188-194.

Effect of enzymatic

activity of

homeopathic

medicine

Basic research

Biochemical efficacy of

homeopathic and electronic

preparations of D8 potassium

cyanate

Dittmann J.,

Kanapin H.,

Harisch G.

FKM, 1999, 6;

15-18.

Homeopathic

potentisation is

more effective than

electronic

potentisation

Basic research

Osteoporosis in vitro in rat tibiaderived

osteoblasts is promoted

by the homeopathic preparation,

FMS Calciumfluor

Palermo C.,

Filanti C.,

Poggi S.,

Manduca P.

Cell Biol Int, 1999,

23(1): 31-40.

Stimulant

Osteogenesis

(trial with

compound drug)

Thin-layer chromatography (TLC)

of homeopathic active

constituents

Schmolz M.

BM, 1999, 5;

248-250.

Constituents of Arnica comp.- Heel® ointment: electrophoresis accelerates their skin penetration.

Basic research
Effect of homeopathic
       constituents on enzymatic

activity.
Basic research

Efficacy of a potentised

homeopathic drug in reducing

cytotoxic effects produced by

arsenic trioxide in mice

Datta S.,

Mallick P.,

Bukhsh A.R.

Complement Ther

Med, 1999 Jan;

7 (8): 62-75 (a).

Protective

Arsenic trioxide

toxicity

Efficacy of a potentised

homeopathic drug in reducing

cytotoxic effects produced by

arsenic trioxide in mice

Datta S.,

Mallick P.,

Bukhsh A.R.

Complement Ther

Med, 1999 Sep;

7 (3): 156-63 (b).

Protective

Arsenic trioxide

toxicity

Non-cytotoxic antiviral action of a homeopathic drug

Heine H.

Ärzteitschrift für

Neturheilverfahre,

       

2000; 41: 542-7.

Stimulant

ã interferon

synthesis

Efficacy of a potentised

homeopathic drug in reducing

cytotoxic effects produced by

arsenic trioxide in mice

Kundu S.N.,

Mitra K.,

Khuda

Bukhsh A.R.

Complement Ther

Med , 2000 Sep;

1 (3): 157-65.

Protective

Arsenic trioxide

toxicity

Stimulatory effect of some plant

extracts used in homeopathy on

the phagocytosis induced

chemiluminescence of

polymorphonuclear leukocytes

Crocnan D.,

Greabu M.,

Olinescu R.

Rocz Akad Med

Biochemist, 2000;

45: 246-254.

Stimulant

Phagocytosis

Difference between the efficacy

of single potencies and chords

Dittmann J.,

Harisch G.

BM, 2000, 1;

18-23.

Potency chords are

more effective than

single potencies

Basic research

Influence of some homeopathic

drugs on the catalytic activity of

uricase, acid phosphatase and the

cytosol glutathion-S-transferase

Dittmann J.,

Kanapin H.,

Harisch G.

BM, 2000, 3;

125-131

Effect of D8

potencies on three

different enzymatic

systems

Basic research

Influence of some homeopathic

drugs on the catalytic activity of

cAMP-dependent protein kinases

Dittmann J.,

Kanapin H.,

Harisch G.

BM, 2000, 6;

289-296.

Effect of different

potencies of 5

substances on

enzymatic activity

Basic research

Neuroprotection from glutamate

toxicity with ultra-low dose

glutamate

Jonas W.,

Lin Y.,

Zortella F.

Neuroreport,

       

2001 Feb 92; 12

(2): 335-9.

Protective Glutamate toxicity

 

KEY: BT = Biomedical Therapy

BM = Biologische Medizin

FKM = Forschung Komplementär Medizin

Ramaanand (talk) 02:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)Dr.Jhingadé

[edit] Schmucky, do you drink beer?

...and do you live anywhere near the U District? You really must come out and share a pitcher with me some day. -GTBacchus(talk) 03:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I drink, but not beer. I'm up in Greenwood. Shoot e-mail. I think you sent me one recently that ended up getting spam-canned... try again. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] "China is a country"

Hi, I'm attempting a re-write of the opening of China to resolve the definitional issue that has plagued the article. I noticed that you commented previously on the issue. I've opened a straw poll to gauge whether consensus is to define "China is a country". Could I ask you to comment/vote at Talk:China#Straw poll? --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 10:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Little context in Category:Statistics of the People's Republic of China

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[edit] about China's map

The new maps is NPOV now, just like the old maps. I don't see any significant differences between the current version of the new one and the old ones. --Neo-Jay (talk) 17:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No requirements?

In other words, there are no minimum requirements of each subdivision? jlog3000 (talk) 11:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Beijing

Hey SchmuckyTheCat! I'm currently planning the launch of the WikiProject Beijing, depending on if enough other editors would be interested in such a project. I saw you have edited the main Beijing page recently or in several times in the past and therefor might be interested. If you are, please sign: User:Poeloq/WikiProject_Beijing. As I am posting this to quite a few editors, I am not watching your page and would ask you to reply with any comment or questions on my talk page. Cheers, Poeloq (talk) 21:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suspicious fella

You might wish to help track User:Burgerist for the same old reasons, although this one may be less obvious. Thanks!--Huaiwei (talk) 13:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Instantnood

Guys, isn't this user BANNED? Strange thing is... why is he still editing articles (Special:Contributions/Instantnood) on wikipedia? --Dave1185 (talk) 18:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Those are from 2007. Is your clock right? If you suspect a current IP or user is a sock, I'll take a look. He comes back now and again with new accounts. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
Oh boy...I have been online for far too long that I think I need to get my eyes checked now. My bad, sorry for the blunder, going to catch some Zzz soon. Nighty night and smile! --Dave1185 (talk) 22:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion review of User:SchmuckyTheCat/List of borderless countries

Just to inform you, User:Testaa (who didn't inform you) has opened a deletion review (see Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 April 25) concerning this page and its previous location at List of borderless countries. As the user has not clarified exactly why this should be subject to review (I made some guesses at the DRV page, which you can read there), the process would benefit from having your comments, and especially any clarification of the issue here. Thanks Gavia immer (talk) 13:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hong Kong FAR

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[edit] Twinkle

Thanks for recommending twinkle, it has been very useful in issuing warnings and such. Sam Barsoom 21:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Politics of the Republic of China sidebar

Template:Politics of the Republic of China sidebar has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Jerrch 16:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk Request - SchmuckyTheCat - re: Mighty_leaf_tea removal

Hello,

Not sure how else to reach you so I am posting my question here.

Yesterday you removed Mighty_leaf_tea - I placed a talk comment but received no feedback - our position was that the article did conform to the notability standards in that it referenced a valid (new york times) 2nd party article (we planned to add more) - and that it seemed consistent with other US tea companies found under the teas article.

To put it another way - List_of_tea_companies is a list of tea companies, and Mighty Leaf Tea is appropriately on this list - if it were to be deleted then should not all the others be removed?

Can you help us to understand specifically why it was deleted and what we can do to rewrite to make this acceptable to you?

Thank you,

Nedvansise (talk) 03:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)NedvanSise

Wikipedia is not an advertising service and new articles about companies need to meet high standards of "notability" (a term I dislike, fwiw, but click the link to understand it) or the new article is likely to be deleted. You will want to have several different sources (not one) to meet the requirement.
Lists of companies, like the one for tea, need to be regularly looked at to remove entries that are only there for advertising. It's nothing against you or your company.
You don't need to make anything acceptable to me. I'm not an administrator. I can put a notice on an article that it might not meet our criteria (which someone will do, almost guaranteed, for all new articles) but that criteria needs to be reviewed and the delete decision has to be made by someone else.
SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

Hi Scmucky,

Thank you for this. We received a message from Stifle suggesting that the issue was criterion 7 (Author request remove) - Mighty Leaf Tea themselves direct us to add this to Wikipedia, so the only other author I could think of was the reference to the New York Times article - which does not seem likely - we will follow up with Stifle and per your suggestion create more than one reference. Thank you for your time on this.

Nedvansise (talk) 03:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)NedvanSise

Being hired to write the article on Wikipedia is a conflict of interest. Be very careful that you write neutrally. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] 98110

The zip 98110 is listed in the list of Seattle zips, but it is the zip for Bainbridge Island in Kitsap County. Doesn't seem right to list it for Seattle, but maybe I'm missing something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian Morris (talkcontribs) 20:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

USPS says it is a zip code for both Bainbridge and Seattle. They don't show a map. None of the internet zip code maps show it as belonging to Seattle, but it is possible the zip code belongs to water and USPS doesn't care that no postal addresses will use it. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] Re: Peter zhou

I just had a quick CU report done on two we were discussing about, and there aren't two sockmasters, just the one. nat.utoronto 20:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ANI`

I think you would be interested in this discussion: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Re: Peter zhou's_Socks, China, and Names of China. Cheers, nat.utoronto 01:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Closing Merger Discussions Prematurely

Why are you so intent on closing the discussion when you are so involved with it? I believe that with your COI, you should not have done that. Re-open the discussion please, or I will. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 07:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Because it was to discuss the move. The move was closed. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] Nanjing as the ROC capital?

Thanks for your comment. But would you please let me know of a (written) source where 1931 Constituion ceased to be a source of law? You explained that laws enacted under it are still valid unless repealed earlier, but it really doesn't make sense to me why those laws would still be valid if the source isn't. It is clear though the 1946 Constitution did not repeal the 1931 section where Nanjing was set as the capital so according to basic legal principle, that section would still be valid unless otherwise repealed. It makes no legal sense to me when the 1946 Constition was silent on this issue (therefore not repealing the relevant 1931 Section), Nanjing's status as the capital would suddenly disappear. If that's the case, ROC would no longer have a capital after the 1946 Constitution? We know in practice, the ROC government still operated in Nanjing for as long as they could after the Constitution until the Communists were about to take the city during the Chinese Civil War.

Even if the 1931 Constitution ceased to be a source of law (which I am high doubtful of), presumably there would have been legislation enacted after the 1931 Constitution that gave effect to Nanjing as the capital. Right now I can think of all those laws setting out government organisations as well as Nanjing city planning (called the Plan for the Capital "首都計劃"). If you were right earlier, then these laws would still indectly make Nanjing the de jure capital, as the 1946 Constition was silent on the capital issue.

Also, as you might be aware, current textbooks in Taiwanese schools are still saying that Nanjing is the capital of the ROC, but due to administrative intervention by the Ministery of Education, either Taipei or Nanjing would be accepted as the correct answer for a ROC capitl question in school tests. But, this administrative intervention does not affect Nanjing's legal status. There has never been any announcements made by the Executive Yuan that the capital was moved from Nanjing to Taipei. Here is a Chinese article on this issue. http://www.ettoday.com/2002/03/29/304-1282810.htm

I await a written source confirming your view. --Pyl (talk) 17:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Constitution documents are singular founding documents. Only one exists at a time. The 1946 Constitution supercedes, in its entirety, the 1931 Constitution. The 1931 Constitution itself was entitled as "Provisional Constitution for the Period of Political Tutelage". As its core, it make the assumption that the people of China were not educated enough for self-determining decisions in government (political tutelage) thus it was designed as a temporary charter (provisional). This exactly followed the "Three Stages of Revolution" envisioned by Sun Yat-sen. It was also hoped to have a unified (with the CCP) government but the provisional constitution recognized it was not yet the case. Sun Yat-sen hoped the "political tutelage" period would end in three years, the KMT leadership hoped it would take six, but it took 15 years to finally draft the permanent constitution. The Constitution expired with the end of the period of "political tutelage" in 1947.
If you want some written sources that specifically state that the 1946/7 Constitution supercedes the 1931, try the writings of Jianfu Chen or Tay-sheng Wang. These are law professors, not tabloid journalists. The first wrote, "A permanent constitution, the Constitution of the Republic of China was only adopted after the war, on 25 December 1946, which formally terminated the period of political tutelage in China."
Article 171 of the current constitution defines "why those laws would still be valid if the source isn't." Obviously, the ROC had a large body of existing law by 1947. The source of law changed, from the 1931 constitution to the 1946/7 constitution, but unless the laws were in conflict, they still had effect. Article 171 functions as a severability clause, while article 170 functions as a weak supremacy clause.
I don't know if other statutes exist that call Nanjing the capital, or if they are still valid. I don't think planning documents would suffice, in a civil law system, new statutes often conflict or overlap with old statutes. The newer ones would be interpreted as more valid and everyone would move right along. Certainly the newest statutes and ordinances are referring to Taipei.
I don't think there is a "de jure" capital for the ROC. I don't think there will be any cite "ad jure" to state it as fact. That is my objection for writing about it on Wikipedia. The answer to the question "what is the capital of the Republic of China?" ends up being a statement of politics, not an issue of law. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] thanks for the image

Hi, thanks for thinking of the Guy Fawkes image for the template. I would have never thought of it myself :) --Enric Naval (talk) 04:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Seattle meetup 5

Hi SchmuckyTheCat, I see that you've attended the previous Seattle meetup. I hope that you can make it to the next one on June 19! Bestchai (talk) 21:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] .zub deletion

Hey dude,

I was trying to get the .zub explanation on this, but I guess you already deleted it. I'll gather up evidence on it cause its a company that has the software which is revolutionizing the way people read magazines, the hard paper copy is long gone. I was going to put up the "hangon" sign but I'll get it recreated with more evidence from the news agencies here (translated from Chinese) Michaelssg (talk) 07:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Taipei or Seattle?

Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle5. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

Taipei... --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


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