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    [edit] Shah Soltan Hosain

    Ali, is the information regarding Soltan Hosain(the latest edit) correct? Except for the 'supposed' reference listed, I've searched and found no other information regarding his love of wine or lack of governance. Thanks. Kansas Bear (talk) 20:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

    It is correct. Actually, with the exception of Shah Tahmasp I who became very observant religiously (after quitting opium and wine and Harem), most of the Safavid Kings had Harem, wine and etc. Some were effective in governance like Shah Abbas the Great. Of course the kings were very religious, but they also had their Harem and Wine. For example Shah Abbas walked from Isfahan to Mashhad on foot! to visit the shrine of Imam Reza. Sultan Hussain is seen as an ineffective ruler and is blamed for the fall of the dynasty to Mahmud the Afghan. I do not have the particular book quoted on me, but the book quoted is critically acclaimed and its author is from Harvard University. The Encyclopedia of Islam article written by the Safavid scholar PAR EXCELLANCE (Roger Savoary) also mentions the same thing: Under the last two Safavids, Shah Sulayman(1077-1105/1666-94) and Sultān Husayn (1105-35/1694-1722), the pace of decline accelerated. Both were weak and pliable rulers, products of the harem system. Sulayman, an alcoholic, had little interest in the affairs of the state. His son, Shah Sultan Husayn, was no better and his derisive nickname "Mullah Hussain" is significant. Unrestrained by the authority of the ruler, the "privy council" of the Women, the Harem, and the court eunuchs usurped power at the centre of the ruling institution.
    If you are interested in Safavids (perhaps you want to improve this article), I would recommend the article from the Encyclopedia of Islam. I have the whole article and can E-mail it to you if you wish. Encyclopedia Iranica also has many articles on various Safavid rulers, specially its founder and the its greatest ruler: Shah Abbas I. Just send me an E-mail from Wikipedia and I'll sent you the Encyclopedia of Islam article if you are interested. Thanks --alidoostzadeh (talk) 22:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


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