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[edit] Manchester Airport removal of reference
I can't see anywhere in Wikipedias guidelines, a guideline saying not to use .doc references. Even if there is how is one from an official local government website worse than one from a book, which most people can't access? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheliaval (talk • contribs) 11:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Leaving user warnings
Please leave user warnings on the users talk page, not the user page. Thanks. Brianga (talk) 11:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] January Newsletter, Issue IV
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Happy New Year to all our Greater Manchester Wikipedians! The project now has 34 members. 5 new participants enrolled last month, they can be viewed here. On behalf of the team I hope they have prosperous and enjoyable usership and wish them well with their forthcoming work!
User:Archtransit and User:Rudget, both part of our team, are current candidates for adminship (see here for Archtransit and here for Rudget). We wish them luck with this persuit and hope they will become our latest project participants with admin status!
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Greater Manchester Article News
Since our last newsletter delivered by User:Rudget on 03 December 2007, our teamship has continued to bear fruit in the form of obtaining featured article status for Chat Moss (nom). User:Malleus Fatuarum has been heavily involved with this article and we thank him for his efforts! It's a great addition to our FA family! In addition to Chat Moss, Altrincham (nom) is a current featured article candidate, whilst Trafford is a recent good article candidate.
Simillarly, the Portal:North West England is now officially a featured portal. User:Rudget has been overwhelmingly involved with this portal and he too is hereby thanked on behalf of the project for his continued contributions to this page and many others.
Following a title change this month (from city-wide to county-wide per this discussion) Grade I listed buildings in Greater Manchester has been one of the project's successes, albeit unofficially, with good collaboration and rapid rates of development. It is hoped by several users that this become a featured list in the short term. If you think you can help with images, information or just filling in the dead links, please feel free to join in! Simillar articles to undergo large transformation are List of churches in Greater Manchester, Kersal Moor and List of railway stations in Manchester, all of which are now in good shape.
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Current Debates
There have been a number of debates this month, some of which with a high level of potential impact for the project and its members.
Article assessment for the project became a point of contention when around 1400 articles were tagged by a bot. Most of these artcles were on "minor" association football players. The consensus was that in our state of around 30 participants and as a predominatly geography based project, most of these articles should be untagged, at very least for the time being. Of our 1403 articles now tagged however, only (?) 85% are assessed - a drop of 15%!
Other debates have included the notability and verifiability of Commonwealth Black Pudding Throwing Championships and its mention on the Ramsbottom article. Whilst on Shaw and Crompton, one of our featured articles, questions have been raised as to what constitutes a "town". If you have any veiws on these matters, please feel free to share them at the project talk page.
Perhaps one of the most notable debates this month was the possibility of... scrapping the project newsletter! User:Rudget has written the last three editions (that's all of them!) and has decided that he'd like to pass on the responsibility. It has been proposed that a noticeboard system be introduced to highlight new issues in a near(!)-realtime fashion. I User:Jza84 am writing what could now be the last GM newsletter for a while. If you're a member of the team, but aren't closely involved with the project, then we'd love to hear from you at WT:GM with your views on which system of communication is the right way forwards (if any/both!).
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Monthly Challenges
As was stated in last months newsletter, the Greater Manchester remains a key article for the project, and one which has been identified as urgent in our quest for  Featured Article status. Sadly, for all our other successes, Greater Manchester has changed little since this time last year] (!) and is still an article requiring expansion and development. The new WP:UKCOUNTIES guide may provide new ways in which to channel our efforts. Although we endevour to have good article status even for our suburbs and hamlets, other articles specifically identified as needing development towards FA include Salford, Stretford and Altrincham.
Many of our most crucial articles about our largest towns are still in poor condition: Rochdale, Bury, Prestwich, Bolton, and Wigan are of "start class" standard - much lower than we should have. If you feel you can help, please be bold and try to improve these.
One final challenge for this month is for all those with new digial cameras for Christmas, or even digial images stored away on a disc!... many of our place articles are still without a single photograph, and www.geograph.org.uk is running low on quality images. Even those with photographs often have a low quality photograph of the local church. MORE ARE NEEDED! Especially townscapes! If you think you can help, a barnstar is up for grabs for best picture added in the next month or so!
We're always looking for potential new project members and ways for greater communication, collaboration and participation. WP:GM has a strong core of users, but would like to have more input from a wider user-base. If you can think of ways to improve our ways of working, please feel free to mention them at WT:GM. Simillarly, if you notice a new or unapproached user who is producing sound work related to Greater Manchester and its consituent parts, please don't forget to ask them if they'd like to join us, either in your own hand, or by adding {{Welcome WPGM}} to their talk page.
Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome!
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[edit] User page!
Ha ha! No problem at all!.... don't tell anybody, but I stole mine in two halves from two other editors, so it's not really mine to own anyway! I say go for it!... I hope all's well with you? I must thank you for your continued watching of Shaw and Crompton! I don't know what I'd do without another editor there!... I've really got into things at the moment, and still can't believe I got Oldham to FA! Might do Middleton next, or Rochdale. -- Jza84 · (talk) 23:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tables in columns (Neighbours)
Hi there,
Thanks so much for your sandbox table, that's exactly what i had in mind. I don't know about you, but i think that would look so much better. I'll add it to my sandbox version and see whether anyone else likes it. Then I'll spend another week trying to get my head around the code! Ged UK (talk) 20:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'd be grateful if you could post up your thoughts on the article proposal, because i don't know about you but i'm getting pretty bored with the constant re-editing of the 'going' table! Ged UK (talk) 20:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] March Newsletter, Issue V
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The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter
Issue V - March 2008
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- Project News
- Since the January newsletter there has been an increase of 5 featured articles/lists, taking our total number of featured entries upto
16 17 (Trafford passed today!).
- Although WP:GM leads the way in terms of featured content by a local British project, the Kent and Yorkshire WikiProjects are close to this total, with 11 and 14 featured entries respectively.
- There has otherwise been a reduction in WP:GM nominations for GA status, something which the project has begun to discuss on the talk page.
- Having completed all but one of our short term aims set last December, the project would like to look at developing new short term aims. Suggestions have been made here, but there is scope for flexibility. Do you have a entry you would like to see developed?
- Member News
There are now 39 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester! Welcome to the 8 new members that joined since our last newsletter:
Two members have left the project however, each for rather different reasons:
- Archtransit (talk · contribs) was an administrator, and project member, who was found to have been abusing his editting and sysop privliges. Following investigation, Archtransit was banned indefinately. A report in The Signpost is found here.
- Thanks
This WikiProject, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!
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- Roll Call!!!
WP:GM is a great project, and is leading the way for local WikiProjects of the UK. However, though the project talk page is a hub of activity, it is regularly used by only a core of 5-6 editors, which isn't making the most of its potential. Indeed, a study, by the University of Minnesota found that "One-tenth of 1 percent of editors account for nearly half of Wikipedia's content value". We at WP:GM do not want to follow suit!
There are several editors who have, sadly, not editted since the turn of 2008, and others, which concentrate in areas other than Greater Manchester material (which is quite fine!).
The WikiProject Greater Manchester would like to know if YOU are still around, and if so, if you've like to be more involved, and, if not, why not and what can we do to get you involved and be a bigger part of the team?
Feel free to come by the project talk page and leave us a message on what you're working on and/or what you'd like to see improved. The project is only as strong as its members and we'd like to know if you're still active or if we can help you with your editting.
- Images
- A picture's worth a thousand words
In our last issue, a plea was made for more images to be submitted to Wikipedia/WikiCommons to improve the quality and context of our articles. Many of our Top priority articles are still lacking in quality images, if any!
www.geograph.org.uk is an online resource of photographs of places in the UK, which we can use. Www.flickr.com also has some images we are permitted to use. Do you have a digital camera however? Can you take photographs of townscapes and landmarks in your local area that can be used here? Middleton, Hulme and Rochdale all have examples of images in their lead that help give a sense of place and improve the context to our readers.
Simillarly, many of our most crucial articles about our largest towns are still in poor condition: Stockport, Bury, Prestwich, Bolton, and Wigan are of "start class" standard with short lead sections and unreferenced sections - a much lower standard than we should allow! If you feel you can help, please be bold and try to improve these. There is a list of resources that can help.
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[edit] Re: Old talk page
Thanks for the nudge! I hadn't noticed! I've since tackled the issues raised. I'm actually very well at the moment, which makes a change for me (thanks for asking!). I have noted your comment at Talk:Shaw and Crompton and haven't forgotten to make the changes that were proposed... infact, I may do it this afternoon! --Jza84 | Talk 14:36, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Max Branning
I agree the article definitely needs a lot more real world context, as with the excellent article on Pauline Fowler, but I don't necessarily think the tense of the storyline summary will need to change as it does. I think the Pauline article does a good job of differentiating between tenses for out of universe and in-universe information, while still being very much readable. For instance, looking at the Max article as it currently stands, were the information in the Reception section to be integrated alongside the plot summary, it would still be correct for it to read:
- ...Tanya decides to kill him. She prepares a meal for Max, spiking his wine with crushed pills. When he collapses, she and Sean Slater take him in a van to some deserted woodland, where Sean has dug a hole and placed a coffin. They put Max in the coffin, and leave him to die. [...] This storyline prompted 167 viewer complaints, citing the inappropriate nature of the scenes, which aired prior to the 9.00 pm watershed. The BBC responded with the statement: "Whilst we appreciate that these episodes were dramatic..."[1]
I don't think it would be necessary to revert the plot summary to past tense for this to make sense - as I said, the Pauline article is structured similarly, by way of random example:
- Christine makes greater demands on Arthur, threatening to tell Pauline about their affair unless he does so himself. In September 1993, the situation finally reaches a climax on-screen.[2] The scriptwriters had many conferences about ways in which Pauline would find out about the affair; "should she work it out herself or should some third party tell her the truth?"[2]
Basically, it just seems to be a matter of past tense for real world perspective, and present for in-universe information. Alas, I seem to have been reverted again whilst writing this out, so it looks as though I might have to raise the issue on the EastEnders project page. Frickative (talk) 21:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] WP:GM Newsletter
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Issue VI - April 2008
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- Project News
- Peterloo Massacre was nominated for FAC on 6 April. So far it has received support for FAS but feel free join the discussion here.
- WP:GM still is still the leading local British WikiProject. As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 6 on London and Yorkshire who have 15 FAs each. Although taking the lead in FAs, WP:GM is still lacking GAs and falls behind London by 6. This topic was at the front of the new aims discussion (here) and is an important issue for WP:GM.
- As mentioned above, new aims have been decided. See the right hand column for more details.
- Member News
There are now 44 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester! A warm welcome to the 5 new members that have joined us since March:
No users left the WikiProject this month. Hooray!
- Thanks
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
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- New Aims
The completion of all but one of the short term aims set last December resulted in a discussion on WT:GM to set new aims for the WikiProject. They are:
It took us four months to get our last aims completed, why not try and see if these can be done in less time than before! All input is welcome but if anyone has any books or photos etc specifically related to these topics, they would be extra-specially welcome.
But before rushing ahead with these new aims, let's not forget the one that got away last time: to obtain B -> GA status for Rochdale, Wigan, Bury, Bolton and Stockport. Most of these articles are in poor condition and in need of repair. Good quality images are urgently needed also. Let's make sure that this aim doesn't stay off our radar much longer.
- Don't Forget...
- Images!
The shortage of good images was mentioned in the last issue and still hasn't been resolved! A good place to start would be the requested photographs category but please remember that there are many articles not within this category that have the same need in common.
- Assessment
"Assess and review all relevant articles for quality, importance and progress" is one of our mid-term aims. At the present moment, there are only 43 unassessed articles. This task could be completed well before the next newsletter is out.
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[edit] Neighbours
Thanx for cleaning up the information on five life changing to Fiver :-)
I only changed the 9am to 10am slot. Do you know why Neighbours is on at 7.30pm on Monday on Fiver? I find it weird to show two new episodes of Home and Away at 6.30pm. Onshore —Preceding comment was added at 14:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- No problem, glad I helped! The 7.30pm thing is weird I agree. It's even weirder that at the end of the 7pm showing on Five Life the announcer actually said that Neighbours would be back at the same time on Monday on Fiver, yet the schedule on both Radiotimes and Sky's EPG still say it'll be on at 7.30pm. I'm half expecting it to turn out to be a glitch which will suddenly disappear once the channel relaunches with no explanation. We'll see. ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 18:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
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Issue VII - May 2008
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- The Peterloo Massacre article was promoted to FA on 12 April. One of our top priority articles, it had previously been only start class. The process began on 25th March and since then underwent over 700 edits before the end of April, with Jza84, Malleus Fatuarum, and Richerman making significant contributions to the rapid development of the article. Ddstretch and Mr Stephen also contributed to discussions on the article talk page.
- Perhaps the most unusual event of April 2008 for the project has surrounded the Denshaw article. Denshaw is a village of about 500 people in Saddleworth, Oldham, which attracted media attention due to vandalism of the stub class article. Once this was brought to the project's attention, efforts were made to improve the article which led to a successful DYK? nomination and might even advance it to GA status with a bit more effort. In April there were over 19,000 visitors who saw the project in action. Contributors included Jza84, Ddstretch, Malleus Fatuarum, Hassocks5489, Nev1 and Mike Peel.
- Also this month 5 articles featured on the DYK? section of the front page: Hulme Arch Bridge, Peterloo Massacre, Bolton and Leigh Railway, Barnes Hospital, Denshaw, and Platt Fields Park. This certainly puts into perspective one of the project's previous mid-term aims "feature on the Did you know? section with at least three articles related to Greater Manchester". If you've expanded an article 5 fold or started one with at least 1.5kb of prose in the past 5 days and it has an interesting and referenced fact don't hesitate to read the conditions of DYK? and nominate it here. It gets the project noticed!
- WikiProject Greater Manchester is still leading local British WikiProjects. As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 7 on London and Yorkshire who have 15 Featured Articles each. Although taking the lead in FAs, WP:GM is still lacking GAs and falls behind London by 6 (we have 14, London 20). If you see an article that you think deserves to be a GA, don't hesitate to nominate it at WP:GAC!
- Member News
There are 45 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester. One new member has joined the project this month:
- Kieran5676 on 30th April and is interested in south Manchester.
The project is always looking for new members, and if you spot an editor who makes good changes to Greater Machester related articles why not invite them to join up by adding this template to their talk page {{SUBST:Welcome WPGM}}.
- Thanks
A rather large "thank you" goes out to all the editors who edited article related to Greater Manchester, or who edit the project itself.
It's no joke.
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- New Aims
Last month the project set new and ambitious aims for itself:
It took us four months to get our last aims completed, why not try and see if these can be done in less time than before! All input is welcome but if anyone has any books or photos etc specifically related to these topics, they would be extra-specially welcome.
Most of the articles covered by our new aims haven't experienced much activity in the past month, if you thing you can help improve an article be bold and get editing. Articles such as List of people from Bolton and List of railway stations in Greater Manchester already appear very close to FL status and may just require an editor to guide them through the FLC process.
Our highest priority article is of course Greater Manchester, there is a peer review from March with issues still to be addressed before it can be put forward as a featured article candidate. Salford is another top priority article because it's the county's second city; it's under gone a lot of editing but still has a way to go before it reaches GA. Also active this month has been the City of Salford article – part of our aim to get 1/3 of Greater Manchester's Metropolitan Boroughs to GA &ndash.
Although these are the project's explicit short term aims, we endeavour to "improving all wikipedia articles that are concerned with Greater Manchester", so every edit is valuable.
- Reminders...
- Images!
The rate of good images has gone up since it was mentioned in the last issue, but more images are needed! The requested photographs category lists some of the articles needing images.
- Assessment
When this section was written, there was only 1 unassessed article! This task has probably already been finished, but it might now have. To check click here.
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