Talk:New Zealand–Canada relations

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This page could use being edited down a bit. There's a lot of stuff with only a tenuous link to the Canada-NZ relationship as opposed to stuff about Canada and stuff about NZ. We don't need pics of government buildings, the Queen etc unless they illustrate some aspect of the relationship, nor do we need NZ's entire military history. Not that I'm not in awe of the amount of effort that has gone into this. --Helenalex (talk) 10:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree in some respects, i think it is good to have both pictures mentioned, as the queen is the common head of state for both Canada and New Zealand and the government building maybe a little more tenuous but is still relevant to show the respective administrative buildings just to give an idea of the country's state of government, if a better picture was found to achieve that same goal then i would be up for changing. I agree about the military, as it was hard to find more evidence of military action between Canada and NZ, but scaling that down couldnt hurt, as long as the important bits are left. And thanks for the compliment, it was my pet-project while i was ill over the weekend. :D Taifarious1 21:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I suppose what I'm saying is that if people want to know about NZ's government or Canada's government, they'll go to the pages on those things, rather than here. This page should be reserved for info about the actual relationship between the two countries. At the moment that info is getting a bit swamped by general information about the two countries. --Helenalex (talk) 08:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

So then what do you propose happens and to what sections?? Taifarious1 09:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I think someone (you, me, whoever) needs to go through, look at each paragraph, and ask 'is this actually about the relationship between NZ and Canada, or just about those countries on their own'? Sometimes it's valuable to compare the two, but not too often. In terms of examples, the Military Forces and Bilaterial Programs sections are both good, whereas the 'Conflicts fought alongside Canada' section seems to be the military history of NZ with mentions of Canada in it. This needs to be significantly reduced - for example if the two countries fought in the same war then that should be mentioned, but unless they were in any of the same battles, that's all that needs to be said. If people want a military history of NZ, there's another page for that. --Helenalex (talk) 02:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan, ill get on that ASAP, and when ive finished you can see whether it needs to be scaled down further. Taifarious1 03:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Y Done, how does that look now? Taifarious1 07:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The conflicts section is much better now. I still don't think the NZ coat of arms and so forth need to be on there, but that's just a stylistic thing and I can live with it how it is. Keep up the good work. --Helenalex (talk) 23:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it is much more on-point but i feel that it now lacks much substance so i think ill spend the next few days trying to bulk up the article on whatever i can find on NZ-Canada relations, thanks a lot for your direction BTW. Cheers Taifarious1 04:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good, but too much

Very good job doing all this research and writting, but sadly most of it is irelevant, superfulous, etc. I will help to pick through it. Kevlar67 (talk) 22:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)