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[edit] Typo redirect Island of enchantment

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[edit] List of Puerto Ricans

Great idea! I'm really glad that you are helping out with the list. I was thinking about doing a "clean-up" sweep on the list and ask others ,like PR4ever who has been active with the list, to help. I am sure that there are many names of non-notables in the list who do not even belong there. Maybe we can look at the "suspicious" entries and check out if they have a source which states their notablility. If they don't then out they go. What do you think? Tony the Marine (talk) 21:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I have always maintained a control of the military section and I can check up the names in the educational section. Which section would you like to clean-up? Tony the Marine (talk) 21:46, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe that only the new additions should post a reference. This is what I did. In the Judges section, I didn't recognize some of the names and I did a goggle search on them and checked to see if the person was notable. I won't the reference because it is too much work. I will trust your judgement and PR4ever in the "sweep" because to far we are the only ones interested in the integrity of the list. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:48, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I would ask you to reconsider the deletion of Chief Justice A. Cecil Snyder. If you check his article, you will see the following source: La Justicia en sus Manos, by Luis Rafael Rivera, 2007, ISBN 1-57581-884-1. The book details the nature of his controversiality---he was forced off the court due to well-founded suspicion of actual corruption, the only Chief Justice to leave office under a cloud of controversy. That made him notable. Furthermore, he's the first Chief Justice appointed under the PR Constitution. We must remember that the listed person need not developed notability at the present time but when he was alive and active. Pr4ever (talk) 02:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion when a page is tagged with {{hangon}}

First, I can delete a page when it's tagged with the {{hangon}} tag - as the tag itself says, "Note that this request is not binding, and the page may still be deleted if the page unquestionably meets the speedy deletion criteria". Second, don't tell me what to do or not to do - I do not appreciate the tone of your message, so suggest you read this policy on civility. Third, I did check the talk pages which was, by the way, empty at the time the article was deleted. Fourth, I don't have to message the user concerned and give them time to address the issue - that's the whole point of speedy deletion.

I suggest you take the time to read the relevant policies - perhaps starting at WP:CSD - before lecturing other people. Thanks. _GB^T/C 21:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Again, I don't particularly appreciate your tone. In particular, the logs show that the page was created at 20:56, tagged for speedy deletion at 20:57, tagged by you with the {{hangon}} at 21:25, and then deleted by me at 21:30. The speedy deletion tag had been in place for over half an hour (quite a long time, as these things go) before the article was deleted. That the editor that tagged it with speedy didn't inform you of the tagging immediately is, perhaps, unfortunate, but in any event a bot notified you four minutes later at 21:01 - 24 minutes before you placed the {{hangon}} tag.

Your suggestion is noted, and filed accordingly. Perhaps you, in turn, can note that I'm still not convinced that this is a plausible redirect- it smacks of marketing more than anything else. _GB^T/C 21:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

{{helpme}} What template, parser function, or special page can I use to know how many pages are using a template? I know about the Special:Whatlinkshere page but I'd like the result to be a number that I could use. Something like: 148 pages are using this template, where "148" is generated by some template, etc. Help! ~RayLast ^«Talk!» 21:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately I'm not aware of something that'll get what I think you're looking for. But I'll ask around a bit and let you know if I find anything. – Luna Santin (talk) 23:11, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah, one of the developers in #wikimedia-tech (WP:IRC) has informed me that no such parserfunction is available at this time (would be an expensive server query, he says). Depending on what exactly you're looking for, there may be a workaround. For now I'll nerf the helpme tag, but feel free to restore it if you have any more questions. :) – Luna Santin (talk) 23:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

It would be exactly as server expensive as the Special:Whatlinkshere page, which returns results pretty fast. The only small little addition to the query is counting the amount of hits the page returns. Maybe I only need someone to tell me if there is a parser function that counts lines on a page. Then I'd be able to make it myself. Thanks. ~RayLast ^«Talk!» 23:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Invite

As a current or past contributor to a related article, I thought I'd let you know about WikiProject University of Florida, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of University of Florida. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks! ~~~~

Jccort (talk) 03:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Consultation

Ray, I would like some imput from you in regard to A. Cecil Snyder. I removed his name from the judges section because he is not Puerto Rican and was appointed to his position by the President. I believe that it would be similar to all the military governors in Puerto Rico appointed by the President. The question is this, did Snyder make Puerto Rico his homeland? I don't think so. Your fair opinion in my talk page would be greatly appreciated. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Curacao

Just so you know, the Netherlands Antilles legislature made Dutch, Papiamentu, and English official languages in the spring of 2007. Spanish is widely spoken on Curacao (at least a second language of the majority of the population). French isn't spoken at all there ... perhaps you have it confused with Sint Maarten?Kww (talk) 19:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Teresa Lopez

You were right about her. She was one those who slipped through the cracks (smile). Tony the Marine (talk) 20:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar award

Raylast, I would like to present you with this barnstar in appreciation for all your hard work in the List of Puerto Ricans "Sweep". There are so many people that could have helped us, yet it was you and I the only ones to who took upon ourselves the task of maintaining the integrity of the "List". Once you're finished with your section, I would like it very much if you could please continue to help me in making sure that only the names of those who are cited by reliable verifiable sources are added to the list. Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

This Boricua Tireless Contributor Barnstar is presented to RayLast for his continous work on the List of Puerto Ricans and Puerto Rican related articles. Presented by Tony the Marine (talk)

[edit] Rollback feature

Ray, the Rollback feature is a "perk" that comes along with becoming an administrator. You can't ask for it. You are doing real well here and eventually you will become an admin. The main thing to becoming an admin. is to understand policy (I know that you do), have a large enough edit count on the mainspace and always maintain your "cool" when dealing with A-holes. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, what do you know? Parese que yo no estoy al tanto de todo (smile). Rollbacker, consider it done. Just remember to maintain your "cool" when dealing with others. Good luck. Tony the Marine (talk) 00:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy First Day of Spring!

Happy First Day of Spring!

P.S. Thanks for the help with the template! --Mifter (talk) 14:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Userboxen list cleanup

Nice work cleaning up those userboxen pages. I've been meaning to do it, but have been busy. Have you considered joining the userboxen wikiproject? xenocidic (talk) 17:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha! didn't see the WikiProj userbox on your main page =) xenocidic (talk) 18:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

No apology required, I don't think it's mandatory =) Keep up the good work. xenocidic (talk) 18:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PSP userbox

Thanks for teaching me how to use optional paramaters! xenocidic (talk) 14:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Thank you for all your dilgent and tireless work making the userbox pages much neater looking! Ahunt (talk) 21:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Seconded! xenocidic (talk) 20:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What green light

You never waited for the green light you asked for. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The difference here is you asked for a green light at 23:15 and started at 00:43 and yet claim you "got tired of waiting". Being bold is one thing but asking for a green light and waiting less than 30 minutes is bad taste and very impatient. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:15, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The project is hardly abandoned. Asking for a green light and only waiting for 1.5 hours is hardly the way to engender yourself to others. It's really not adquate time. You'd be better off editing, then leaving a note on the talk page about what the purpose of the edits was. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Wish I had a Mac Userbox

That was unintentional. I'm not exactly sure how to fix it to be honest though. ...Andy120... (talk) 01:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Usbk

Hint: {{Usbk}} has a sandbox subpage (the link is at the top of the documentation). You can make test edits there and check them in the testcases subpage. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion

I checked the "List of PR" and saw a Gloria Gonzalez that was added without a ref., then I checked the article and I saw that it didn't have any references either. That led me to remove the person's name from the list. Now get this, I did a google search on the subject, I mean I figured that such a "notable" person who has received so many "honors" would have multiple mentions, but nada.

During my years in Wikipedia, I have come across two cases where the claims to notability were proven to be false. These two people even went as far as to creating articles in websites such as IMdB, but were proven to be a hoax.

I'm not saying that this is the case with "Gloria Gonzalez", but I am tempted to put the article up for deletion for lack of verifiability. You are a trusted friend and I would like to hear your opinion on the matter. Tony the Marine (talk) 15:28, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. What I'm going to do is post a message on the creators "talk page" requesting reliable verifiable sources (such as a newspaper article or something). I'm going to give that person a couple of days to respond, if not then I will post it for deletion.

Man, I am not a deletionist and sometimes I hate the agendas that some deletionists follow (especially the anti-Hispanic ones), but one of the things that seems strange about the article is that the only reference to her is this one: Biography, Photos, Lyrics (SalsaClasica.com), which is posted in the bio and which according to policy is not considered a reliable source since anyone could have written it. I went once more to google and searched under "Canciones por Gloria Gonzalez" and guess what? It led me to that same website. It could be an elaborate hoax, I mean we don't even know if the person in the picture is her. So, I think that by giving the creator some time to prove him/her-self is good enough. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You are right, it seems that she may be notable. What I'm going to do is "not" nominate it for deletion at all. However, I will leave the message on the creators page to see if he is motivated to post the sources. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Simple math

1/4 + 1/4 = 1/2. 1/2 + 1/2 = 1. 1/4 Italian + 1/4 Puerto Rican + 1/2 Colombian = 1 Italian/Puerto Rican/Colombian person. Sorry you didn't learn that in school but I blame our poor educational system, not you. MrBlondNYC (talk) 02:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

If fractions and percentages have nothing to do with math then I must be stupid then. Oh well. Anyway, I'm only trying to write the man's ancestry as Leguizamo himself did in his autobiography succinctly and without plagiarizing. He states specifically that his paternal grandfather was a rich half Italian/half Puerto Rican who breezed through Colombia, got a Colombian woman pregnant and left. Also, he states specifically that his maternal grandfather was from Lebanon. I think it's pretty much understood that most Colombians and Puerto Ricans are a mix of African, Native American, and Spanish. MrBlondNYC (talk) 04:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gloria Gonzalez

Thank you for participating in the Gloria Gonzalez issue. It is great when level headed people like us can discuss an issue in a civil manner before making a final decision. Only if others followed our example. Tony the Marine (talk)

[edit] Re:Advice

Buenos Dias, I just got up. I have blocked the un-registered user. I don't care if the user is registered or not, if they break the rules they must face the consequences.

Here is my advice:

1. "Do not" revert anyone more then twice.

2. The first time that you revert, leave a message in the user's talk page and tell them the reason and explain policy.

3. The second time that the person reverts, leave them another message, this time "warning" them that insistence of adding "unsoured material" maybe deemed as vandalism and that they maybe subject to being blocked from further editing. Then tell an admin. (could be me) to keep an eye open on the situation.

4. If the user reverts for a third, then they will have violated the "3-revert rule" which is an automatic "block". Let the admin know and the user will be blocked.

5. Remember "do not" make the 3rd revert yourself, because someone may come along and block you too.

6. I do not have any tolerance to those who add profanity. If this were the case, let me know and I will block.

Remember, keep away form the 3rd revert yourself. I hope that this has been of some help. Tony the Marine (talk) 15:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Just to comment on this common misconception. An editor cannot revert more than 3 times, which means they can't revert 4 times. Check the policy. Although... I think it is really unwise to revert more than once or twice anyways. Just an FYI as these incorrect 3RR reports always pop up over at AIV. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 18:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Bots

No, I don't have any experience in this field, but there is someone who has created some excellent Bots and whom I am sure will be more then willing to help you create one: User:Cobi. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback

Hi I noticed Tony's comment above. Just to let you know, rollback is actually available to ordinary users on request. Check out Wikipedia:Requests for rollback for mroe details Nil Einne (talk) 22:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eddie Mellado - inventor of the 3-point shot

Here is something that is interesting. My son told me that Prof. Eddie Rio Mellado invented the 3-point shot that is common in the game of basketball. However, I couldn't find any reliable source to confirm this. Now, if this is true, that would mean that a "Boricua" invented something that revolutionized the game of basketball and Mellado deserves an article in Wikipedia. I do know that la Asociación de Jugadores de Baloncesto de Puerto Rico has a "Eddie Rios Mellado Award" which is annually presented to the player who makes the most 3-point shots. This I found out when I checked the R. de la C. 2461 de La Camara de Representantes de Puerto Rico: . R. de la C. 2462

Now, what I was wondering is if anyone in Puerto Rico could come up with some sources (newspapers, books, etc.) which would serve as a verifiable source, because like I said before, I think that Mellado deserves an article. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

You have made a very good point, a 3-pionter for you (smile). It makes complete sense that the reason that there aren't any verifiable sources is because there is no proof to the "Mellado" legend claim. Tony the Marine (talk) 21:44, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A few things

Hey, you have shown a lot of ability working with images, so I have been wondering if you have experience working with pictures of people, I'm asking because we have several articles of living people that are lacking free images and are in need of them, artist depictions are commonly used if no replaceable photos can be found, I recon that as long as the images are only illustrating the subject's appearance they can be used freely without being considered derivative work since its not possible to copyright the appearance of a person. Anyway, what do you say? - Caribbean~H.Q. 20:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Certainly, we should start by illustrating the portal's selected biographies, so how about begining with José Juan Barea? I was thinking that the image could sort of "fade-away" from the neck down to avoid any distintive aspect that can justify copyright attribution, we should only illustrate the person's appearance which is supposed to be non-copyrightable. - Caribbean~H.Q. 21:13, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I forgot a example, the most detailed mugshot appears to be used by his profile in Yahoo!, oher simmilar images are found on the image search, the image should illustrate general points without going into too much detail. - Caribbean~H.Q. 21:18, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, going to the nice warm weather of the Caribbean are you? Procrastinating is kind of a global thing, personally I have seen more of it in Florida than in Borinquen, we just are busy people. - Caribbean~H.Q. 02:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your images

Saludos. Just dropping by to say thanks for creating the Puerto Rico-themed images. They're great :-) I've even used a couple myself... --Agüeybaná 03:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Puerto Rico

Hi. Thanks for catching my error. I had reverted a particularly nasty bit of vandalism to Puerto Rico then went on searching for more vandals. I found a persistent one vandalizing Children's Day‎ that I kept having to revert and I eventually got 'em blocked. In the middle of all of that, I returned to the Puerto Rico page and mistakenly thought someone had added some nonsense characters. I reverted the last edit, thinking I was removing the garbage. It turns out they had instead caught and reverted some prior vandalism and my reversion accidentally restored it. I almost always go back and check my reversions, but this time I was distracted by that persistent vandal. I apologize for my carelessness. ‑ MANdARAX XAЯAbИAM (talk) 23:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] El Boricuazo

Hey, the other day I was talking to Tony about his new section on Primera Hora's webpage, I would like the project to have the incredible knowledge resources that he has and I'm certain that he and Tony share a lot in common. Would he be able to create a account here or is it easier for him to communicate by e-mail? - Caribbean~H.Q. 23:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Ray, tell "El Boricuazo" for me that I appreciate everything that he his doing for our people. That we have in common our love of our island and our people. I hope that with our work we change the way the world looks at us and how our people look at themselves. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help :(

Hey ray, could you check out my user page and talk page??? Cause I need a little help with HTML and would like it if I could get some tips before I make my first article.-f~minus {Talk!}

One of the things I would like help with is adding images, and making images have links like having a speech bubble that you click on that takes you to the talk page.-f~minus {Talk!}

[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:Jesus Omar Rivera.jpg

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[edit] Wenchuan location

Thank you Mistman123 for creating the map Image:2008_Sichuan_earthquake_no_labels.svg, but I think there is a problem on it and its variants. The epicentre location is wrong, it is too east to the real one. You can find the right location of Wenchuan County on this map: Media:Location_of_Wenchuan_within_Sichuan_(China).png . —Preceding unsigned comment added by GLUON ZHANG (talk • contribs) 01:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sharing a thought

My friend I just want to share a thought with you,

You know, it amazes me that throughout history, the courage and commitment of the Puerto Rican soldier has been questioned. Can you believe that Major General Luis R. Esteves, the "Father of the Puerto Rican National Guard," questioned the fighting capability of our "Jibaros" and when the 65th Infantry was sent to Korea, the American high command also questioned the bravery of our men. Little did they know that the brave men form our island would eventually earn 5 Medals of Honor, 5 Navy Crosses and 15 Distinguished Service Crosses. But, what strikes me the most is the lack of knowledge of our military history that those who criticize us have had and continue to have.

It seems to me that after the United States took control of our island, the heroic actions of our "Boricuas" as members of the Spanish Army and/or the Puerto Rican militia, were eliminated from our history books. Not only are our heroes of the "past" not mentioned in our educational history books, but there aren't any statues, monuments or paintings to honor them. That is why I enjoy writing about these heroes and telling the world about them. I want the world to know that our people were brave soldiers with "cojones" before the United States took over the island and they began to serve the Armed Forces of the United States.

That is why I have written the stories of men such as Juan de Amezquita and the brothers Jose and Francisco Diaz. I hope that you enjoy them. Tony the Marine (talk) 05:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

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