Talk:Methodist Boys' School (Kuala Lumpur)

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This is obviously just an advertisment for the Methodist Boys' school. A pupil obviously redirected "Monkey boys school" to here as a joke.

Contents 1 Floral Words 2 Enough Junks 3 More Updates 4 Fair use rationale for Image:MBSKL.jpg 5 References 6 Too much padding, not enough sources 7 Suggestions by Peerreviewer Javascript Program

[edit] Floral Words

I removed plenty unneeded floral words which are used to describe the school, infringing the NPOV... but i'm figuring out how to edit the history section, which I haven't touch... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by --60.52.116.123 06:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Enough Junks

I think this very writeup by you spoilt the real good name of the school. So much so of democratic practice. I think you should make this a place where it is open to people to comment. I think only with the bad ones in and well you improve on it will help the school. The way I see it from an old boys' point of view, you have much to pick up from both ms moey or mr loo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.111.201.182 (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] More Updates

I am an MBSian too. I am also involved in updating this page. However, I dare not touch the history section, which mostly is taken from one of our school publications, I think it was from the Centenary Magazine. Thats why the language is flowery. Under the Past Principal's section, Mr. Wong's name keeps appearing although that section is for PAST principals. Mr Wong's name already appears as the principal on the top of that page under the school badge.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:MBSKL.jpg

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[edit] References

Please read WP:CITE. Note that double brackets [[like this]] are used for internal (wiki) links. You may also want to check the various citation templates that are available. Also, please read WP:RS, self published material is generally deprecated as a main source of iformation for an article subject. DMcMPO11AAUK/Talk/Contribs 15:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too much padding, not enough sources

This article contains too much padding and not enough sources. If I were to remove all information for which no reference or a self published source is offered, there would be no article. Here are some suggestions:

• Trim all the uniform stuff. It takes up much too much space for its overall significance.
• The library is notable by virtue of its age and the fact it gets visited by other educational institutions. Find references relating to such visits. If a foreign school visited it, is there a reference on that school's website, or in a newspaper article?
• You don't need to include all 3 forms of the school anthem. One version will do.
• The table of house information takes up much less space, but conveys the same information
• You need to say what sportsmen, it brigade and archive authority boards are.
• List of principals - you don't really need all this
• Eminent old boys - maybe only include those that are notable enough to have WP articles about them.
• Find references - you need a lot more references for the amount of text that you have.

DMcMPO11AAUK/Talk/Contribs 16:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions by Peerreviewer Javascript Program

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• Consider adding more links to the article; per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) and Wikipedia:Build the web, create links to relevant articles.^[?]
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• Per WP:WIAFA, this article's table of contents (ToC) may be too long- consider shrinking it down by merging short sections or using a proper system of daughter pages as per Wikipedia:Summary style.^[?]
• There are a few occurrences of weasel words in this article- please observe WP:AWT. Certain phrases should specify exactly who supports, considers, believes, etc., such a view.
  • are considered
  • might be weasel words, and should be provided with proper citations (if they already do, or are not weasel terms, please strike this comment).^[?]
• Watch for redundancies that make the article too wordy instead of being crisp and concise. (You may wish to try Tony1's redundancy exercises.)
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  • “In the year [of] 1906”
• Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.^[?]

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, DMcMPO11AAUK/Talk/Contribs 16:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)