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Hello Mananaliksik! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Tito Pao 06:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC) Getting started Wikipedia tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia How to: edit a page • upload an image Getting help Frequently asked questions Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Fair use • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Building consensus • Resolving disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Things to do Be bold in editing • Help develop an article Pages needing attention • Peer review Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Spam • Vandalism Miscellaneous Categories • Disambiguity • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

I am a new user here in English Wikipedia. How will I start here. Hope someone will help me how to start. Thank you very much. --Mananaliksik 01:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I added a welcome template for you...it contains some links to very, very useful help pages. You can also leave a note on the Tambayan talk page or on other user's talk page. (You can start with me...just let me know how can I help you ;) --- Tito Pao 06:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why am I not active in the Tagalog Wikipedia

Well, I've wrote it down on my user page under the WikiPhilosophy section:

The English Wikipedia is canonical. At least with respect to the other Philippine-language editions Wikipedia. I prefer that the articles in the Tagalog, Cebuano, Kapampangan and other Philippine Wikipedias be simply translated version of their English counterparts. After all, the aim of having versions of Wikipedia in various languages is so that people who understand the language can get access to this free information. It therefore won't help to have differing information in different languages. This is the reason why I will remain primarily active in the English edition, instead of in the Tagalog Wikipedia.

Hope I answered your question. :) --seav 06:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thailand subdivisions

Thailand have 75 provinces (changwat) and 1 capital metropolis, Bangkok. (Thai people also count them as 76 changwats.) A province divides into districts (amphoe). Only some provinces also have minor districts (king amphoe). King amphoe is not sub of amphoe; they are on the same level, king amphoe just has smaller area. Each amphoe divides into sub-districts (tambon), and then villages (mooban or ban). I won't describe about Bangkok; you can read in the article.

The Thai word King (กิ่ง) means branch and should not be confused with the english word King.

See this tree.

• metropolis
• changwat
  • amphoe or king amphoe
    • tambon
      • mooban or ban

The question you ask is about "Mueang". There is no really "Mueang" in Thailand but every province must have one capital main district called amphoe Mueang, so "Mueang Chiang Rai" should refer to amphoe Mueang in Chiang Rai, not the whole province of Chiang Rai. This applies to other provinces, too. --Octra Bond 21:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

For a little, Mueang can be refer to Towns,one type of Thailand's municipality, such as Thesaban Mueang Saraburi which its area is a part of Amphoe Mueang Saraburi etc.. See also: Thesaban. --202.183.233.11 05:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC) (i'm user:thanyakij from Thai Wikipedia)

I think that you misunderstand about this: "province > amphoe mueang > tambon > muban". We call every district by beginning with "amphoe". So don't join "amphoe" and "mueang" as one thing. Amphoe mueang is just an amphoe name in a province. See Chiang Rai Province#Administrative divisions as example. The correct direction should be as the above tree.

Amphoe mueang is on the same level as another amphoe, just where to plot placemark of province on the map.

Who leads them all? They have both led by governors, local people, and juristic person (org's):

• province: led by a Provincial Governor (Phuwa Ratchakan Changwat, ผู้ว่าราชการจังหวัด, as gov); Thesaban Nakhon (เทศบาลนคร, as local); and Provincial Administration Organization (องค์การบริหารส่วนจังหวัด: อบจ., as juristic person)
• amphoe: led by a District Chief Officer (Nai Amphoe, นายอำเภอ, as gov); and Thesaban Mueang (เทศบาลเมือง, as local)
• tambon: led by a Kamnan (กำนัน, as gov or local); Thesaban Tambon (เทศบาลตำบล, as local); and Subdistrict Administration Organization (องค์การบริหารส่วนตำบล: อบต., as juristic person)
• mooban: led by a Villege Leader (Phuyai Ban, ผู้ใหญ่บ้าน, as gov or local)

Only อบจ. and อบต. must come from election in the local area. Even they all are so many but they administrate in different responsibility. --Octra Bond 11:39, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thailand's administration is divide into three sections.

• Central Administration is policy level and only operation level in Bangkok, it rules economic, health, people-registration, military, currency, agricultural policy, transportation, communication, electricity, waterworks and others exclude some infrastructural-works and environmental-works (which the Local do).
• Regional Administration is operation level in the other provinces in the same as Central Administration
• Local Administration rule some infrastructural-works environmental-works and promote their own area and do some transportation and waterworks which the Central Government don't.

Note: Bangkok and Pattaya is special pattern of Local Administration ,municipality, they are in class of Thesaban Nakhon

Note: The PAO. is the consultant committee of Provincial Governor and it not directly administrate it's area.

Note: Thesaban and CAO are the same level of municipality, its area may be is not exact to the provincial division and Thesaban Nakorn is not only rule in Amphoe Muang because it divide into class by its population level, Thesaban Nakhon is more population than Thesaban Mueang such as Nonthaburi has two thesaban Nakhon which are Thesaban Nakhon Nonthaburi and Thesaban Nakhon Pakkret because it has population more than 50,000 and/or a population density more than 3,000 per square kilometre. But Amphoe Chakkarat of Nakhon Ratchasima Province has its municipality in the class of Thesaban Tambon because it has less population.

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202.183.233.11 06:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC) (user:thanyakij from Thai Wikipedia)

Hello Mananaliksik, sorry for late reply, just got back from a long trip yesterday. Anyway it seems that other Thai people already answered your question. :) --Manop - TH 22:17, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

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