Talk:La Salle College

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	La Salle College was a nominee for good article, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones Date Process Result March 5, 2008 Good article nominee Not listed March 11, 2008 Good article nominee Not listed Current Status: Former good article nominee

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Assessment: Hello all, and thank you for contributing to this school article. I'm part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Assessment team, and I'm reviewing this page. I'm currently giving it a grade of B on the Wikipedia 1.0 Assessment Scale and an importance of Mid on this importance scale. For information on improving this article, please visit the WikiProject Schools Project Page. My reasoning is as follows: A well-written article with lots of factual information and very neutral tone. Alumni list, history, and content make this one of the better Hong Kong school articles I've seen. Could still use more references and a stronger lead but otherwise very close to GA. Adam McCormick (talk) 04:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

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Hong Kong To-do: edit purge Clean up all MTR station pages. They are literally all over the place. Two model pages are Tsing Yi Station and Sheung Shui Station. They each describe a feature special to the station, Station layout, exit, and connections, as well as neighbouring stations and the station "box". We will also need plenty of updated pictures (e.g. removing all KCR-related images except those on the KCR article). Check that all pages have basically the same language structure as Tsing Yi Station and Sheung Shui Station. Links to location maps are good too. (Should also perform these checks on Chinese Wikipedia.) Clean-up pages that link with TVB, especially its series pages.

[edit] 501A and Paul Lau

I doubt it is appropiate to give Dr. Paul Lau such a large space in this article, as he has already got an entry solely on him. It may be not too appropiate to delete his part without acknowledge other people. An another mistake in this entry is that our 501 A in 2003, actually is not the record of HKCEE, which I am really sad about it. And indeed, I am the one who typed that part into this entry. Another famous school in Hong Kong Island has achieved over 510 A in the same year.

Being a member of the school has no implication with knowing the facts, by the way.

I am currently finding evidence showing there is a school getting more than 501A in 03 HKCEE. I would be most delighted if I find out what I am saying is wrong. You may contact me through Eddy Wong or your CRB chair, asking for lscjonathan.-- 2006-03-30 23:38:50 Lscjonathan

First, please notice that there is no separate entry for Paul Lau. The link, as it have seemed, Paul Lau, redirects to this article. The big paragraph on this article about Paul Lau is a result of a previous debate: Wikipedia: Articles for deletion/Paul Lau.

Second, I doubt that another school achieved more than 501A in the HKCEE history. --Deryck C. 04:41, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

From a reliable source, which is the speech day program of the school, I have confirmed that my previous source was wrong, ie, the 501A LSC achieved in 2003 remains the highest number of A in HKCEE hisstory. I am sorry for the previous claim without confirming the source. Personally, I am delighted to know that LSC remains the school with the highest number of HKCEE A.

I am quite frustrated finding 2 links to Chinese article at the left column. This never happen in any other article.

[edit] Help me with the vandalism

There are so many people vandalizing this page that I think I'm going to violate the 3RR rule if I've to defend. Somebody help doing it with me please. --Deryck C. 15:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bauhinia Bowl

Saying that LSC had won Bauhinia Bown 24 times and that she has already won the 2006 championship is strict vandalism. --Deryck C. 06:11, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused. The article above lists La Salle College as winning the Boys School award 24 times. I counted; it's definitely listed 24 times, not 21. So why is this incorrect—this appears to be a matter of fact, rather than opinion. (I'm happy to accept that this year's award is yet to be decided, although it is listed in the article on the Bowl). Where is the error? Sliggy 19:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

As a member of the school I know the facts. Please let me revert all those vandalism things. You don't have to interfere with the content accuracy. A lot of vandals saying the same thing doesn't mean the thing is correct. --Deryck C. 04:27, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Traditions

Shall we add a section for Lasallian traditions? --2006-04-02 09:37:30 152.3.44.147

Yes, if you can. Please consider signing up so that we won't misrecognize you as a vandalist. --Deryck C. 07:51, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I prefer not to register at this moment. Perhaps I will tag my edits with "edit summaries", so everyone will know what I have changed?

But if your IP is not static it's no use. --Deryck C. 18:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bauhinia Bowl

I've decided to leave the version by 218.102.109.170 in order to avoid an edit war. However I've two points to question:

1. Accuracy of Bauhinia Bowl is questionable. Please don't use that as a reference to this article.
2. Although all Bauhinia Bowl competitions have finished and the estimated standings tell us that LSC had won the 2006 champ, but the official result has not been announced. We should not take the 2006 champs into this article for the time being.

--Deryck C. 07:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cheering tradition

Is there a Tradition cheer that "one spells out the acronym of the school name, "L S C", and another that calls for the students to "never say die"."? I can't recall this cheer in my memory. --2006-04-03 20:13:15 Lscjonathan

I think not so. I've never heard this slogan. Rather, the slogan I've heard is "La Salle spirit, never say die". Next time please start a new discussion at the bottom, not the top. --Deryck C. 15:22, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The cheers I was referring to are the "Gimme an L, Gimme an S, Gimme a C, etc." and "La Salle Spirit, Never Say Die". The way I put it was just to make the prose flow better, rather than simply listing out the cheers.

Your act makes people feel that we actually shout "LSC never say die", which is distracting. --Deryck C. 04:22, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apostles' Creed?

I think F2s say this prayer solely because this has to be examed. In other forms, this never appears. I'd suggest this prayer be removed from the prayers' description. --Deryck C. 14:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure about the true reason behind us F2s saying the Apostles' Creed, as long as it has been demanded to be said by teachers. Maybe it should be removed. Nevertheless, it is printed in the diary... --Hk_linus 15:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Continued vandalism

There is continued vandalism of removing the passage about Paul Lau. Would all active editors of this article please regularly check out such vandalisms and deal with them, as they happen so often whenever the passage is not (yet) deleted (being vandalized). --Deryck C. 05:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• OK, I'll keep my eye out for this passage's deletion. Sliggy 15:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

• • Thank you ^_^. Before that I thought you allowed that removal of passage because you added things on top of the vandalized passage and that you voted delete before in the Paul Lau afd. --Deryck C. 07:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of passage about Paul Lau

Please discuss any proposed change to the section "The first layman principal" here, before anybody removes the passage again. --Deryck C. 05:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Paul Lau was decided not to be notable in his own right. From the AfD decision, "painful detail about the headteachers upbringing would not work well in that article, nor would much more than a mention in the infobox." Most of the material in the biographical section is not relevant to the scope of the article, hence removed. Paul Lau is not even headmaster anymore -> crud. If you want to discuss what influence he has been on the school's history, and how his previous career is relevant to this, fine. But don't just plonk down his whole biography, none of which is relevant. I read a perfectly ordinary teacher's biography here, and it doesn't belong. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 10:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed

[edit] The biggest hug

I have heard that the biggest hug was not officially approved by Guinness as a record due to some problems concerning the video recording. Is there anyone who can have good sources to know if the record did hold or not before? Checkiema 16:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

The biggest hug was not officially approved by Guinness, but not due to a problem with the video. The problem was, not more than three months before LSC performed the hug, another party performed a slightly bigger hug which was not put onto the list of records until a year after LSC performed another "record-breaking act". --Deryck C. 04:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assess

A good start but not yet a B as article is lacking any references. The alumni need sorting out. Red-linked alumni should be referenced. Ask at WikiProject Schools if you need any help. Dahliarose 19:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

• The assessment has not changed. This article is still completely without external references, and while otherwise of B quality, references are key to this rating. Please have a look at other B articles for a bettor idea of what this entails. Adam McCormick (talk) 14:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

Im adding some citations :) from our school homepage —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyotaboy95 (talk • contribs) 10:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Failed Good Article nomination

I am quickfailing this article due to the lack of references. I have also glanced through the article so here are some comments:

• The lead should be expanded in order to adequately summarize the article. see Wikipedia:Lead section
• Right now the only references are from the school. Try using Reliable sources such as local newspapers.
• Image:Schoolbadge color.gif needs a fair-use rationale. Try using Template:School rationale.
• The academic section could use information about the entire student body rather than just individual students.

Good luck improving the article. Eóin (talk) 23:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Failed GA

I'm sorry, but the article cannot be passed at this time. Not all of the suggestions from the previous review of the article were addressed. Here are some more things to work on before renomination:

• The article needs to be fully referenced. There are sections and paragraphs without a single in-line citation.
• The lead needs to be expanded, per WP:LEAD to summarize all the main points of the article.
• Only the first word in a header should be cap unless it is proper. (A New Beginning)

Good luck. Nikki311 21:40, 11 March 2008 (UTC)