Talk:Ice class

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[edit] arctic classes

The ABS database contains hundreds of ships classed with an Arctic Ice class. This information should be public domain. It is, however, not. The information is only available to ship owners, shipyards, and ABS engineers. This information is considered proprietary and confidential, and I cannot give it away.

I am limited to google, IMO documents, and other public information in trying to come up with information. There isn't much out there because unless you need to know about it, its very boring information to have.--Dj245 20:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I listed ship articles in Category:Ships with ice classification. Most ships with an article on Wikipedia seem to be in Category:Ships in Ice Class 1A. The only ship with a ABS classification seems to be MV John Hamilton Gray -- Petri Krohn 02:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

This category is far from complete. There are thousands, if not tens of thousands, of ships with ice class. The ice class notation is often not heavilly publicised. Finding these ships without the benefeit of a classification society database is like trying to hunt rabbits by firing a cannon straight up.

Most platform supply vessels have both a firefighting notation and an ice class notation. We do large numbers of these vessels at ABS.

Please note that the Rules HAVE been unified in 2006. All major class societies are now playing by the same rules. Most class societies have what I would call "internal rules" but these rules are just the international rules with the individual class societies own spin on them. The IMO and IACS oversee these rules now and make amendments when required. Older documents may still refer to the way things used to be. The baltic ice classes do not belong to Finland any more than the arctic ones are overseen by ABS. This is like saying the police write the lawbook- it just isn't the case. --Dj245 03:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)