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[edit] April 29

[edit] how can you put an image on a article?

IMarythepirate (talk) 01:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)searched for Till Lindemann's article and there is no image and i wanted to know how i can put and image for Till Lindemann

You will first have to find one on either Wikipedia or Commons (by adding "Image:" in front of your search). Then display it by putting it's name, with the prefix "Image:", between double square brackets (like [[Image:IMAGENAME]]). Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 01:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Images on Wikipedia are a complicated topic. See WP:EIW#Image for all the information. It's not clear from your question whether you have a copyright-free image of Till Lindemann on your computer that you want to upload, or whether you are trying to find an image suitable from Wikipedia. Please clarify. I see the article already has this image: Image:TillLindemann2.jpg, but it is not in the {{Infobox Musical artist}} at the top of the article~~, and the copyright status may not be clear~~. --Teratornis (talk) 04:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The Image:TillLindemann2.jpg appears to have the proper GFDL. --Teratornis (talk) 04:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spam image

Image:Mepps.jpg This image is a spam image and has been repeatedly used by its contributor Hoodoo to spam Wikipedia. How do I get it removed? --Geronimo20 (talk) 01:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Images don't get deleted unless you're sure that the image is the vandalism. The best thing to do, as the person doesn't seem to know about the Wikipedia anti-spam policies, is to not bite and bring it up on his talk page politely. If he continues, warn him. After 4th warning, report to WP:AIV. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 01:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Geronimo20: This is confusing. The image seems to have been inserted once by Hoodoo. Can you explain what spamming you are talking about? Wanderer57 (talk) 04:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I took another look. This is quite confusing. 1) Are you getting Hoodoo confused with Voodoo? 2) The alleged spammer seems to be having serious problems with syntax. Until that is resolved, it is difficult to know if it is spamming or "experimentation" 3) The more interesting question (to me) in the fishing in Ohio article is how it went from mid-2006 to April 2008 with promos for particular brands of fishing lures. Please take a look at that. (Maybe the editor you are concerned about saw this and decided it was okay to promote a particular brand of gear.) Wanderer57 (talk) 05:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Note: I changed Voodoo to Hoodoo (in the original question) because it was quite obvious that Hoodoo, not Voodoo, has been using the image the most and is the editor this person is having problems with. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 05:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How do you put 2 templates beside each other?

Hi. I can't work out how to put the 2 templates Firstminister and Deputyfirstminister beside each other on First Minister and deputy First Minister, help!--Nanometre (talk) 02:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The {{Infobox}} meta-template used to create those templates prevents them from doing that - they aren't supposed to go side by side. And as a side-note, the template shouldn't have a /doc on the end of it - that page is supposed to be for the template documentation, if it needs one (I have fixed the problem). Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 02:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!--Nanometre (talk) 02:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Template documentation explains about /doc subpages for template documentation. It's worth a read if you do much coding with templates, since you'll run into this often. --Teratornis (talk) 04:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reporting mistaken image

What is the best place or way to report an image that isn't showing what it says it shows? --Lisa4edit (talk) 05:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Could you explain a little more. Which image is it - a link would be useful? Astronaut (talk) 05:38, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, rabbits? There's no central discussion area. You can consult the reference desk to see if you can find someone who would know, and then it's editorial discretion thereafter...which in this case would probably mean a deletion and reuploading of that image under a better name, if it is indeed not a rabbit. The original uploader, Neutrality (talk · contribs) is still active, so you could ask him as well. Someguy1221 (talk) 05:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks like a rabbit to my non-expert eye. By comparison, the hare article has this image: Image:Feldhase.jpg, which does look like a hare to my (still non-expert) eye. Astronaut (talk) 05:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The first looks like a hare, the second like a long-eared kangaroo, to my (also non-expert) eye. Wanderer57 (talk) 06:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, but you see it's German. Their Easterbunny is a Osterhase (Easterhare) the pouch is (presumably) on the back :-)

Thanks to all of you. --Lisa4edit (talk) 16:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] slipring induction motor

In a slip ring motor , it drawing more than the rated current in no load it self. Both reistance of stator and rotor were checked and found ok. IR value of both rotor and stator found ok. the rotor is checked for any short circuits and it is also not there. What will be the reason for drawing the higher current. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.163.30.2 (talk) 06:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. StephenBuxton (talk) 06:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] reading text of a publicatio/book

I want to read text of IKHWAN AL-SAFA “″ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.65.197.37 (talk) 07:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

This is for asking questions about how to use wikipedia. Cou can read about them at Brethren of Purity but I'm not sure what you're reffering to as they were a society. Harland1 (^t/_c) 09:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Cite web problem in X-Plane (simulator)

Resolved.

Fix it please 155.69.165.161 (talk) 08:47, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The citation must be placed between <ref> and </ref> so it will show in the references section.
The cite does not need "format= Review". Format is for the type of file; this is not normally needed unless the file type is not automatically recognized.

--— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 09:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Could someone check my IPA?

I've added an IPA pronunciation for the first time on Mark DeSaulnier and would much appreciate if someone could check that I have done it correctly. Thanks. Itsmejudith (talk) 09:55, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Try asking on the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Phonetics. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Or WP:RD/L. It's been tweaked now. Thanks for adding the IPA! :) --Kjoonlee 09:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] wikitable sortable issue

Hi, my article List of Dutch vegetarians is currently a WP:FLC. A reviewer suggested to make the columns "Name" and "Life" sortable, which I think would indeed be an improvement. The problem is that I do not if it is even possible to sort a name when the article is not on this Wikipedia, but on the Dutch one. For instance, this doesn't work ('''{{sortname|:nl:Leon|Verdonschot}}'''), and neither does this '''{{sortname|Leon|:nl:Verdonschot}}'''. Maybe there is another way, but I want the table to remain the same. Thanks in advance. Baldrick90 (talk) 11:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

See Help:Table#Sorting. Your tables are short, so I really don't see the value. Sorting will be by the first character, so the name column will sort by first name; again not real useful. There is a way to add a hidden sort key— I will have to look that up. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 11:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

More on sorting at Help:Sorting. You can add a hidden sort key in the table by using {{Sort}}. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 13:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I used the sort key and it works fine now. Baldrick90 (talk) 23:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vague or ambiguous time

I am working up a new article regional fisheries. Sure, it's a brand new mess, needs work, and is a global article which has numerous copyedits from other articles. But a category has most mysteriously appeared at the bottom called Category:Vague or ambiguous time. Nobody (or no bot) has entered it according to the edit history. Where did this come from? What does it mean? Should I worry about it? Should I just delete it? But it gets worse. I can't delete it because it doesn't appear as a category in the article. Is this the Cabal? Have I finally succumbed to the famed wikipedia editor psychosis? If so, do I get a barnstar, or will I just be left to rot? And it gets worse again. If you put the article in edit mode and look at the bottom, it says things like: This page is a member of 5 hidden categories, and then there is a list of all sorts of nefarious thingamajigs I am apparently guilty of. Please help! It can only be the Cabal. It is my punishment for not believing... oops, oh, oh dear... no... please... please no... aaarrrrrggghhhhh... --Geronimo20 (talk) 12:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

It's one of the {{when}} tags in the article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 12:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I've made the category hidden, I don't see any need for it to appear at the bottom of articles...... Dendodge.Talk^Help 16:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] brownington mo

I want to make a comment about brownington . the town was named after my great grandfather tom browning . Who donated the land for the baptist church. also my great great grandfather gardland who donated the land for the cementry thank you Barbara1st (talk) 13:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

If you want to find out information on the town, please try the Wikipedia:Reference desk. This is the Help Desk, for help on USING Wikipedia only. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 13:22, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think he wants help on creating a new article or editing one. --Kjoonlee 13:13, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Indenting a bulleted list

Please see A Black Box, specifically the bulleted list under "Track listing". The items in bullets are the parts of the song "Flight". I want to indent the bulleted list so that it begins a little way in from the margin, i.e. where it is now but without the two extraneous bullets before "Flying Blind". How would I do this? --Richardrj ^talk ^email 13:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

A colon and an asterisk. I fixed it for you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 13:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Lovely, thank you. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 14:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] brownington mo hendry country

Thank You peter Symomds For Your Reply . I Do Have Reliable Sources. Printed Doctments To verify Information , also Internet Verifcation Through Maplewood Cementry That states Information. Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbara1st (talk • contribs) 14:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

You Do Not Need To Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word As It Is Very Strange Looking. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 14:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

~~It sounds like you want to add information to an article. Go ahead. If it's verifiable, it should survive. If not, it will be reverted. -- Kesh (talk) 14:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)~~
- Looking at your talk page, it appears you're referring to Brownington, Missouri. Given that the church itself isn't mentioned in the article, you'd first need to demonstrate that the church itself is notable enough to mention in the article. Then, you could include information about the donation. -- Kesh (talk) 14:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Censor

I'm not sure if I noticed correctly but is Wikipedia automatically censoring obscene words or something? -- Menti sock 14:47, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

No, Wikipedia has no censorship built into its software. What are you referring to? -- Kesh (talk) 14:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

It's the f word. You can try it with preview as well. Dashes appear instead of it. -- Menti sock 15:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Fuck fuck fuck...looks okay to me. Grsz ^talk 15:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Same here; are you at a library or something? Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 15:07, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah yeah... I am. Thanks for helping me figure that out. :-p I would dread the day WP ever got censored. -- Menti sock 15:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Is there a guideline, saying you can't use words like f**k or s**t. Also, the words may be blocked out because of your browser settings. SimsFan (talk) 15:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why you folks are re-editing your use of words like fuck or shit, considering we even have articles on them. :) Wikipedia is not censored. It may be considered impolite at times, but there is no rule against using "swear words," since those are going to vary from place to place. -- Kesh (talk) 15:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

(ec) Fuck no! Wikipedia is not censored (don't tell my mum!)...... Dendodge.Talk^Help 15:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah there's some Symantec Web Security that can even block pages that exceed its "tolerance of questionable words". Oh well, at least I can get on WP! -- Menti sock 15:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah at my school some wikipedia page are blocked because they 'exceed your weighted phrase limit. :) Harland1 (^t/_c) 17:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

(undent) Here is a great video featuring Steven Pinker sharing his wisdom about swear words:

Steven Pinker - The Stuff of Thought at YouTube

--Teratornis (talk) 18:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

At my school, they've blocked google.com, and I had to fight to get Wikipedia unblocked! They've not got a 'weighted phrase' feature, just a power-hungry IT technician...... Dendodge.Talk^Help 18:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Those god-damned-whore-assed-shit-bitching-mother-fucking-cock-sucking-tit-licking-hell-bastards! Ziggy Saw dust 01:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Helping

Is there a special procedure, or instructions, that I must read before I use the Wikipedia: pages, like helping on this page? SimsFan (talk) 14:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

No. Just being a fairly experienced editor should be good enough. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 15:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

So I can't edit. Man! Thanks for your help. SimsFan (talk) 15:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Every project page is different. Generally, if you know what you're saying and believe in your argument then you could edit it. I thought that applied everywhere. :-) -- Menti sock 15:07, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The way I started was just doing general editing for a few months, and reading the Help Desk to learn new things. Once I was comfortable I knew what was going on, I started answering basic questions here. Just give it some time. -- Kesh (talk) 15:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, in answer to your question related to this page... yes, there are these guidelines but ultimately it comes down to whether you know the answer or not. Don't worry too much. -- Menti sock 15:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah- if you are wrong, you will get corrected. Mercilessly :) Actually, I've learned more about the WP underbelly than would have if I were trying to formally learn this stuff. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Help desk/How to answer#Why volunteer? That section explains the benefits of becoming a Help desk volunteer. Also, I agree with Menti, but I'd spin it a little differently: ultimately, it comes down to whether you can find the answer. I don't know the answer to every single question on the Help desk off the top of my head, but we have such great search and reference tools that I can find the answers to some of the stumpers with a modest effort. For example, we have a huge number of repetitive questions, so you can recycle lots of old answers by searching the Help desk archive. Once you learn how to do that, you become invincible on Wikipedia. OK, not really, but knowing how to look stuff up makes a huge difference, because Wikipedia is probably the world's largest do it yourself project. --Teratornis (talk) 17:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New page

Please I would like to know if you can make a page as the one in this address, but in Spanish, because it is about Spanish translations of the Bible:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_translations_of_the_Bible

This page doesn't have the choice for Spanish translation.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Renzogio (talk • contribs) 15:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Please sign your post by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box (as shown to the left ←). Do NOT sign in articles....... Dendodge.Talk^Help 15:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Spanish translations of the Bible is not a translation, it is about Spanish versions of the Bible. Some articles have links to the other language versions of Wikipedia if they have the same article. In this case, there are no other language articles for this particular article. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:54, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The user probably wants to know if the Spanish Wikipedia has an article comparable to the Spanish translations of the Bible article on the English Wikipedia. Since I do not speak Spanish, I am not very good at searching on the Spanish Wikipedia. However, if someone knows some likely Spanish keywords that might find information on the Spanish Wikipedia about Spanish translations of the Bible, here's a {{Google custom}} search link you can use:

Search the Spanish Wikipedia with Google

I suspect that the Spanish Wikipedia article corresponding to the Bible article would have to say something about the Bible in Spanish. So that article would be: es:Biblia (you can see that in the list of ~~interwiki links~~ interlanguage links in the Bible article). --Teratornis (talk) 17:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

It looks like es:Biblia#Versiones de la Biblia en español may be what you want, if I'm reading those cognates correctly. --Teratornis (talk) 17:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Note the similarity with List of Bible translations#Spanish. --Teratornis (talk) 17:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] As a beginner, what are 3 specific things I could do to improve a "stub" page that has piqued my interest?

Q: As a beginner, what are 3 specific things I could do to improve a "stub" page that has piqued my interest?

Q Details: I read a New York Times Magazine article that I found interesting and informative, and "google'd" the author. I found that there was a small amount of information about this author in a Wikipedia "stub" page. The top of the page notes that the article/stub may meet the criteria for speedy deletion. I am interested in improving the page so that it no longer meets the speedy deletion criteria; in short, I'd like to improve the page. I went ahead and added the NYT Mag article as an "external link".

I am completely overwhelmed by the Wikipedia help section. I also looked at the FAQs, but they didn't seem to answer my question. I just need the "kindergarten" version of how to improve pages; I'm not looking to become a Wikipedia expert.

In short: I'm looking for a few very quick, concise ideas about how to improve a "stub" page so that it is rated higher not deleted.

Although my question is meant to be general in nature, I will provide a link to the stub below, in case that helps to clarify anything: Benoit Denizet-Lewis .

Thanks in advance to any help you may be able to provide.

Sfriedman85 (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

1. Find reliable sources
2. Use that information to improve the article.

Read more: Wikipedia:Manual of Style

...... Dendodge.Talk^Help 15:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's manuals are indeed overwhelming, at first. To really experience shock and awe, scroll through the Editor's index. As to where you might start, I suggest reading WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and WP:BETTER first. And look at some of our featured articles to see where we would like all our articles to go. But note, to comprehensively improve one single article, you would have to understand many of our policies and guidelines all at once. An easier approach is to learn how to solve a few specific kinds of problems that other users have already identified in many articles. When you learn how to solve one kind of problem, you can solve it in as many articles as you like. Then you can learn to solve another kind of problem, and so on. After you learn to solve enough different problems, then you can take a stub article and bring it up to featured quality. To see our lists of articles that need work, see: Wikipedia:Cleanup and Wikipedia:Maintenance. Also see WP:EIW#Learn for information about learning to edit on Wikipedia (such as training videos you can watch - everyone is smart enough to watch TV, right? Even I can do that). Anyway, lots of newcomers tend to approach Wikipedia in a cart-before-the-horse kind of way, by trying to go straight to the most complicated type of editing, which is starting new articles from scratch, or trying to bring stub articles up to featured quality. It's better to start small, and try to learn one skill at a time. If you want personal training, you can request adoption. --Teratornis (talk) 17:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I might add that one of the main reasons why stubs get deleted is that they lack reliable sources, to demonstrate a subject's notability, and with proper footnoting to support the specific claims in an article. The best way to approach Wikipedia is to start by having reliable sources, and then write articles from them. However, too many users go the other way - they write what they know, or believe, about a subject, and then expect someone else to do the grunt work of finding sources and adding footnotes. Wikipedia does not have nearly enough users who understand the content of these instruction pages:

WP:RS, WP:FOOT, WP:CITE, and WP:CITET.

You don't have to become an expert on all of Wikipedia (and who is? Not even Jimbo Wales, I suspect). If you can just understand how to work with reliable sources here, you will be able to help the encyclopedia project immensely. --Teratornis (talk) 17:45, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Watchlist problem

I can see recent changes to articles on my watchlist just fine, but when I try to go to "view and edit watchlist", it just shows a blank page. Refreshing doesn't help, and this has happened repeatedly on two different computers (one using Firefox, the other IE) over the last several days. Is this just a Wikibug, or is there something I can do to stop it? Katharineamy (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Searching the Help desk archive for: watchlist problem finds several reports of problems, but the first few search results I looked at are not exactly the problem you are reporting. If nobody knows a specific answer to your question, you could review the previous questions and answers about watchlists here. I don't off the top of my head recognize the problem you report, sorry, but maybe someone else will recognize it. --Teratornis (talk) 18:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikitable Formating Question

If one of the cells in a wikitable wraps around it makes that row wider. It also then makes all the rows in that table wider even though they don't need to be. Is there any way to say "keep all the table rows at span 1 unless they really need to be?" For an example of the problem see [1] Ploversegg (talk) 18:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)ploversegg

Some help may be at Wikipedia:Line break handling. I'll poke around a bit more. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

You can also embed your text in a div— this must be done for every cell. this example is one row of three columns:

{|
|-
|<div style="width: 100px; overflow: hidden">foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo</div>
|<div style="width: 100px; overflow: hidden">foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo</div>
|<div style="width: 100px; overflow: hidden">foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo</div>
|}

foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo

--— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll check out "div", but since the fields are going to be variable width I'm not sure that will work. But thanks for checking it out for me. Ploversegg (talk) 15:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)ploversegg

Well, after some more poking around, the answer is to use

style="white-space:nowrap;"

in the wikitable. The usage is obscure. If you use it at the head of the table, it makes all lines one row, even the ones with long fields. If you use it once in a field in the body of the table, it takes care of not double rowing short fielded rows for the ENTIRE table. This is what I want but if seems wierd. If you use it as part of the table headers ... the result is hard to predict.

So, I have a solution, which is to add style="white-space:nowrap;" a single time in the wikitable body. The behavior is odd, but who am I to complain. :-) Ploversegg (talk) 21:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)ploversegg

And a quick search shows that {{Nowrap begin}} and {{nowrap end}} use this bit of CSS to do their magic. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Parts manufacture authority" is an incorrect term

Resolved.

I am the President of the Modification and Replacement Parts Association. This is the Washington, DC-based trade association that represents the community of manufacturers that manufacture aircraft parts under US FAA approval.

Wikipedia has an article entitled "Parts manufacture authority" that describes FAA approvals for aircraft parts. This title is incorrect. The correct title is "Parts Manufacturer Approval." The reference for this is 14 C.F.R. section 21.301 et seq. (United States Code of Federal Regulations). You can see how this term is used in 14 C.F.R. section 21.303: http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2008/janqtr/14cfr21.303.htm

Could you please amend the title of this article to correct it? If you correct the title, then I promise to start posting further content on PMAs, with appropriate references (mostly to US, European and Chinese regulatory documents concerning the manufacture and use of PMA parts).

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Booladc (talk • contribs) 20:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

NOTE: I missed the FAQ the first time, but now I see that I can MOVE the article as soon as my account is four days old. SO I will do this in four days!

Y Done No need to wait, it's been done. Thanks, PeterSymonds | talk 20:38, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Glad you found the FAQ. I left a welcome on your talk page with a lot of links. Since you are connected to the subject of the article, please review conflict of interest. I suggest you discuss changes on the article talk page and gain consensus. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blacklisted links

Where would I go to find out why a link was blacklisted? (The link, incidentally, is http:// preschool-tv.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_caillou_controversy.) Thanks....Gladys J Cortez 22:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The page you want is the requests archive. Xenon 54 22:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] KUDO 1080AM in Anchorage Alaska

I am having a problem with the description of our Radio Station. This us an obvious attempt to post a derogatory listing by a listener who is upset with my station's programming.

Could someone contact me?

I would be happy to submit a corrected, accurate posting for the entry. In the meantime could this be pulled down?

Cary Carrigan KUDO 1080 AM Anchorage, Alaska (some information removed)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.112.171.61 (talk) 22:47, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I reversed the vandalism and left a warning. The first occurrence was over a month ago. Wanderer57 (talk) 23:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Has anyone ever used more than one account and not proven to be the same person on each one? 124.176.209.38 (talk) 23:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question 2

Has anyone ever used more than one IP address and not proven to be the same person on each one? 124.176.209.38 (talk) 23:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

You'll have to clarify what you're asking here. -- Kesh (talk) 00:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

The user is asking "has anyone been a sockpuppeteer and gotten away with it?". Xenon 54 00:54, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

If they got away with it, we wouldn't know. I would assume it has happened, though. Paragon12321 (talk) 00:57, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it has happened many, many times. They are eventually caught, though, because they are almost always used for a particular kind of vandalism. If they aren't caught, we don't know that they exist. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 00:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Quite impossible to answer this question conclusively; in order to prove a user has socked abusively without being caught, you need to catch them. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

See Conspiracy theory for more information abut the epistemology involved. Or would that be ontology. Maybe hermeneutics. (I don't know much about philosophy, but I know what I like.) Similarly, if you do not receive this message, please let me know it did not arrive. --Teratornis (talk) 03:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I have used my account on more than 1 IP if that's what you mean. I think that's allowed, isn't it?...... Dendodge.Talk^Help 14:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

For many people it's unavoidable (see Dynamic IP). The rule is always that as long as you don't use multiple identities to get around Wikipedia policy (including consensus, blocking policy, 3RR, etc.), you're in the clear. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] can i add my deffinition to truth with out having messages of thretening to block me.

I wrote this deffinition to the word truth and i got twice a message of tretening to bloack me.

my def. was Truth is an intersection of information including the known and unknown, accepted and unaccepted.

that is the real and a good def. of the truth. please post it for me or make it the nakan or nakon don t threten me. thanks.

Robert Laporte account votetddotinfo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Votetddotinfo (talk • contribs) 23:59, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a dictionary; definitions belong on Wikipedia's sister project, Wiktionary. You can also contact Nakon and ask why the warning was left. Xenon 54 00:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, I think the warnings were excessive, no attempt was made to educate a new user in how to edit constructively. DuncanHill (talk) 00:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the warnings were a bit harsh, but at the same time, the material that was being added was clearly unsuitable for the article. Wikipedia is not a soapbox and all. --Bfigura ^(talk) 00:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I concur on both points. Further, there's no need to coddle people who are unable to follow the simplest of patterns. In this example, as one point, his subsection title featured no capitalization; if the user is unable to see what's wrong with that, to not be able to infer any standard of editing without having their hand held and gently guided to a manual of style, i have to to ask as to whether they have any business making edits. Quaeler (talk) 06:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, that content was completely unsourced. Material on Wikipedia must be verifiable, unsourced material can be removed, especially if controversial. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 01:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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