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[edit] Just a query

The caption to the photograph of a placard promoting Meir's speech indicates, apparently following the Gleason biography, that the meeting being promoted took place in Philadelphia. But the Yiddish text of the placard itself calls "All Jews of Detroit and especially members of 'Nakhshon'" to attend a meeting at the "Philadelphia Byron Center." Is it possible that the Philadelphia Byron Center was the name of a hall located in Detroit? I don't really know how you could follow up on this query, but it seems odd that the announcement would call on Jews of Detroit to attend a meeting in Philadelphia?!!!!

[edit] comments

This article warrants a lot more information from someone knowledgeable....DW

Did Golda had 2 children after she had died? :)

DW, Agreed -- there must be more that's interesting. BTW could you put some information about the source and copyright status of the Golda Meir image on its description page please? Thanks. Mswake 12:18 Jan 17, 2003 (UTC)

Hi DW - in the absence of confirmed public domain status, I've removed the image. If you put it back, please give details of its copyright status and source. Mswake 08:58 Jan 22, 2003 (UTC)

There's some kind of layout error near the bit about Operation Wrath of God, the picture and text are interfering with each other. Someone more knowledgeable correct it please? Adrianke77 11:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Literature

Should be more on literature about / by Meir. Particularly, her autobiography 'My Life' and the stage production Golda's Balcony.

[edit] Quotes

The article fails to mention that most arabs regard Golda Meir as being in the same league as Hitler or Stalin. Consider the blatantly racist and judeo-centric comments, which finaly display an ideology no better than the aryan supremacy and master race ideologies of the nazis Golda Meir so much despized:

"This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy."—Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971.

"It is not only a matter, I believe, of religious observance and practice. To me, being Jewish means and has always meant being proud to be part of a people that has maintained its distinct identity for more than 2,000 years, with all the pain and torment that has been inflicted upon it" -Golda Meir in her autobiography, "My Life". (unsigned comment by User:131.112.128.230)

I don't see anything wrong with either of these quotes. Would you blame a Greek for being Hellenist-centric, or anyone else for that matter for being proud for who she is? However I find your rhetoric highly inflammatory. Most Arabs do not believe that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a fraud, so what? This doesn't add it any legitimacy. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 08:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The first quote is little different than the belief held by many Muslims that any land that has been governed by Muslims should not be lost or ceded to rulers of other faiths. The second quote only shows a woman who is proud of her religious and ethnic heritage. That is not unusual. --(Mingus ah um 01:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC))

In my opinion her quote about denying the presence of Palestinians needs to be apart of her quotes. I think I have seen it on tape where she was asked "what about the Palestinians?" and her answer was "Where are they ?" --Lrukieh 02:15, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Family

Golda's older sister is mentioned twice as Shayna and twice as Sheyna. Which is it?

Anomalocaris 16:21, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

Golda Meir has been accused of being a racist and war criminal. (Add more info about these Allegations)

She has never been charged as a war criminal. Is there something (that is, a specific action of the Israeli Defense Force, Mossad or someone else) that you think should be identified as both: a) a war crime, and b) her direct responsibility? Has someone else already presented this arguement in public or in print (remember, wiki has a no original research policy)? If so, let's talk about it here. As for Meir being racist, well... you'll have to provide quotes (from her or someone else) before anyone will take that seriously. --(Mingus ah um 01:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC))

• A war criminal? nonesense! All she did was to punish the terrorists who murdered the Israeli athletics team in 1972. Left wing nonesense to describe her as a criminal. She wanted peace, but recognized peace would not come by sitting back and allowing these terroists to destroy democracy in Israel.

-What about her famous quote that "There are no Palestinians." Why is there no discussion of Meir's treatment of the Palestinians and role in continuing the occupation of the Palestinian territories? It seems that among discussion of Israel's leaders, discussion of a centerpiece of Israeli policy and a continuing injustice, occupation, is completely ignored. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clank17 (talk • contribs) 21:34, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greater Detail for MANY sections needed and misleading section removed

I really wish this article would go into much greater detail about Meir's activities during both the Six Day War and the Yom Kippur War. Update: I added a huge amount of information about the Yom Kippur War. I also reorganized the formatting of this section of the article. Let me know what you think..This can be a great article but we need to add a lot more information. Flyerhell 09:29, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

The more the merrier. --(Mingus ah um 01:57, 18 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] The bronze finished sculpture of Golda interacting with Mr. Sadat, is one of the world's greatest sculptural groups

The world leaders of the cold war, and middle east confrontation are gathered as if in a theatrical green room, interacting or just mixing. The effect is stunning and Golda makes a powerful presence, along with Khrushchev,Churchill,DeGaul, Zhou Enlai,and many others. It is presented in both 2D and 3D. 30 million 3d glasses were sold last year, kids have most of them. This is a good way to dramatize history for young people.3dnatureguy 03:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Golda was the first female prime minister or head of state to oversee a nuclear weapons programme. I have added this to the article. Not sure if Trivia is the right place or not! --Commking 03:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the first picture

why doesn't the first picture in this article have good revsolotion???

[edit] Coined

In the article's second paragraph: "Golda Meir was the 'Iron Lady' of Israeli politics years before the epithet was coined for Margaret Thatcher."

Doesn't the word "coined" tend to mean the first, which makes the statement contradict itself.

Amyloo 15:36, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and people tend to say "was coined by (the creator)" not "coined for (any particular figure, subject or object)." --(Mingus ah um 23:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Grew Stronger

I struck this line from the opening paragraph because it is 1) highly subjective and 2) likely to be false, since she is held by many to be responsible for the Yom Kippur War (through her stonewalling), which did Israel no good. Bluesprite 21:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

   - sorry, which line? I don't see it

It read: "Under her leadership Israel grew stronger." at the end of the first paragraph. You can find it under the history where I have made a change. Bluesprite 17:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An atheist?

Someone told me Meir was an atheist. I found this quote: "she was asked whether she believed in God: 'I believe in the Jewish people, and the Jewish people believe in God.'" [1] Can anyone share more on her religious beliefs? —Morning star 21:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] War missing

This article is missing mention of the 1969 War of Attrition, which killed Meir's popularity in Israel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.118.1 (talk) 21:56, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

       Damn shes Ugly!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.228.61 (talk) 15:34, 12 December 2007 (UTC) 

[edit] Good article?

For an article to reach good article status, doesn't it need to pass a GA review? Could wikiprojects determine whats a good article and whats not? --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] dates

In the Left hand box below her picture it is stated that Golda Meir was fourth foreign minister from 6677 till 1966. Not being 100% down with the Hebrew calander and unsure of the actual date of when she began that particular office... would someone please correct that or if it is (which I doubt) in the Hebrew calander, please adjust for consistency's sake... Thanks Shg3 (talk) 07:16, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] golda meir happy birthday

may is goldas birthday feliz cumpleaño i think israel wanted to be born in the same month israel@60 jew community in spain-