Talk:George Rogers Clark

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Contents 1 Which Locust Grove? 2 Major rewrite 3 Birth marker 4 Stick to the subject 5 American Revolution -> Revolutionary War 6 Confusing -- "descendants" 7 Add pic of Vincennes memorial 8 Vandalism? 9 WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

[edit] Which Locust Grove?

A sentence in this article reads:

"He lived out the rest of his life in Locust Grove, Kentucky, just a short distance from Louisville, Kentucky with his sister and brother-in-law."

Problem is, there are TWO Locust Groves in KY, one in Clark County, and another in Pendleton County. And neither of them are anywhere near Louisville.

Any idea which Locust Grove is being referred to here?

Kevyn 11:28, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Looks like neither of them - it is a farm outside Louisville[1] and a national historic site. Rmhermen 12:58, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Major rewrite

I rewrote this article on 5 March 2006, and thought I had signed my name to the rewrite, but apparently did not do so. Too bad. Bigturtle 03:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Then sign it now!!!! Cheesemaster123 (talk) 14:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Signatures are not allowed in the article text. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 02:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Birth marker

I'd say keep the Virginian birth marker for now, at least until we can get a pic of it that we cane freely use in the main article.--Bedford 21:14, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

That sounds reasonable. Thanks. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 21:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stick to the subject

This is more of a comment on editorial decisions in history textbooks rather than an encylopedia article WP:POV

"...but 21st century school textbooks allocate little or no space to him." patsw 18:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Blurb removed. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 18:27, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American Revolution -> Revolutionary War

Had a glitch with the last edit where it saved before I finished entering the summary. I meant to say that since Clark was a general, it makes sense to say he settled down after the Revolutionary War, not the American Revolution (which was a longer period going back). Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 13:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Works for me; I just thought it'd be nice to have a link to the Revolution, since that was part of the history there. But certainly not necessary! Civil Engineer III 14:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing -- "descendants"

How can "World War II General Mark Wayne Clark" be "among Clark's descendants" if he never married (and no children are mentioned in the article)?Speciate 04:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Good point. As you suspected, Clark has no known descendants. Looks like some random nonsense that originated in the Mark Clark article. I'll remove the bogus info. —Kevin 06:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Add pic of Vincennes memorial

There should be a picture of the Vincennes memorial to George Rogers Clark inserted in this document —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.178.61.225 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Vandalism?

This article seems to generate more than its share of vandalism. Although it's usually fixed pretty quickly, its pretty annoying to see the nearly daily dose of adolescent humour. What would you think of requesting semi-protection on this page for a time, just so the anonymous editor(s) can find a new hobby? Mingusboodle (talk) 16:49, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I've seen much worse in other articles. The vandalism in this article really isn't that bad. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Besides more vandalism is more exitingCheesemaster123 (talk) 14:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 11:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Holy crap! I'm assuming one of the big reasons this article can't get past Start Class is that there are no reference citations. I can get access to William Hayden English's book at my local library (though I'm not allowed to take it out of the room) and can start citing it if someone else wouldn't mind doing the same with some other sources. Mingusboodle (talk) 02:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to the magic of Google Book Search, you can read English's biography online: Vol. 1, Vol. 2.

English's book is a treasure trove of information, though a bit outdated in parts. Surprisingly, the biography by James Alton James, although published way back in 1928, remains the only critical, scholarly biography of Clark. The biographies by Bakeless, Bodley, and Palmer are well written (especially Bakeless) but uncritically laudatory. The book by Butterfield is outdated in parts, but he, like English, doesn't romanticize Clark the way that Bakeless, Bodley, and Palmer do.

So, when it comes to citations, I think James should be the biography most depended upon, with English and Butterfield next if needed, and all of these checked against modern scholarly essays, many of which are published in the Carstens & Carstens book. —Kevin Myers 04:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the online link. That will make the job much easier! I suppose we can also cite Clark's memoir, which is printed in many different books and online. Mingusboodle (talk) 14:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)