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Contents 1 Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_martial_art add yourself! 2 Needing work 3 DO NOT remove the NPOV tag without first dicussing it here 4 References 5 Informational quality? 6 Image copyright problem with Image:Banda Singh Bahadur.jpg

[edit] Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_martial_art add yourself!

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[edit] Needing work

I added the POV and wikify templates to this article. There is almost no historical information in the "history" section (which is the only section, as there's no overview) and what is there is is POV and unsourced (e.g. "Opposing forces are documented to have cursed the awesome Warrior Saints that the Sikhs were!"). siafu 19:01, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sadly, I don't have the knowledge to make these changes, but here are a few things which would improve this article without even getting into the (excellent, but long) guidelines on the Martial Arts Project page:

• Fix the POV on the history. I am going to fix a few things, but I'm not deeply familiar with either the specific history of the style or with the very early history of the Eastern martial arts, so I can't do very much with it.
• Add more information about the style. What are key principles? What forms are used? You link to the main article on swords, but presumably Gatka uses only some of those weapons. Which ones? Which aspects of other styles are derived from or influenced by Gatka, and what techniques has it taken from other styles?
• Give some information on the philosophy of the style, both as it relates to Sikhism and as it relates to non-Sikh practitioners.

Zabieru 00:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

I took a swing at some basic re-ordering and recategorization to clean up the article, as well as working on some of the grammar. Ronabop 08:25, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DO NOT remove the NPOV tag without first dicussing it here

Thetruth, please DO NOT remove the NPOV tag without first discussing it in the talk page. --Vivin Paliath (വിവിന് പാലിയത്)

When I added to NPOV tag way back when the article didn't look the way it does now. The biggest problem it seems to currently have is a lack of sources/references and a very odd tone. Normally I wouldn't say that this would be appropriate to add an NPOV tag to this article, but it doesn't seem like all the issues have been addressed yet, so keeping it until then seems appropriate. siafu 02:03, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] References

This article has a lot of POVs and a lot of work needs to be done. It lacks proper references and considering my family has a long history in terms of Sikh Phulkian states, this article is seriously in need of work since it is voicing a lot of assumptions.

Especially with its reference to Rajputs and origins of Gatka, also take a look at the time frames and hsitorical correlations.

The article was a nice idea but needs a lot of work.

Good luck

Gorkhali 10:23, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Informational quality?

I am not Sikh, but one sentence brought to my attention the fact that perhaps the entire article needs to be thoroughly checked for factuality. The sentence was:

It [Gatka] was perfected by the time of the tenth and last Sikh Guru.

I am pretty sure there were twelve Gurus? Either way, I agree the article is in need of serious work, and references need to be found.

Thanks, Dan

I've not personally read the article so you could well be right, but no, there were ten Gurus only, plus the perpetual Guru Granth Sahib. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 18:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

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