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Contents 1 Linden, PA PRR bridge question 2 Tidying up after another Burkem sock 3 Lord Lieutenants 4 Dumfries lieutenancy 5 Anstruther Baronetcies 6 Hello 7 Nobility/notability 8 Arbcom case 9 Peerage list templates 10 DYK 11 Henry Bertie‎ 12 SBS membership renewal request—Project in great need of contributors 13 Thanks 14 Re: Check, please 15 On the nature of categories 16 American Revolutionary 17 Did you know 18 Category:Dames of the Order of St John 19 Thanks again 19.1 thx 2 20 Thanks for any help on Brandywine Creek 21 SBS deadline expires 22 London Gazette 23 Kildare 24 Peers & Bts 25 Canals, trolleys 26 Hypertext Protocol Refernce 27 Dates in succession boxes 28 Edward Onslow 29 Lord Lieutenancies 30 William Cowan (politician) 31 John Hay of Cromlix 32 Thanks for supporting my RFA 33 Image Copyrights 34 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 35 DYK: Nittany Furnace 36 New Year's Honours 37 Nittany Furnace GA Review: On Hold 38 Thank you 39 Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kingofmann 40 Leiper Canal 41 William Leslie (disambiguation) 42 George Fletcher 43 Earl of Sandwich 44 Arthur Onslow 45 Thomas Mullins (British Army officer) 46 {{WP1.0/assessments}} 47 responses to your recent messages 48 David Lauder and COI 49 Smithfield 50 Source question 51 GA review of Robert Burnell 52 Terbezek-Darbsâk-Trapessac 53 RE: English-language histories of the Regno 54 Thomas Foley, 2nd Baron Foley 55 Foley et al. 56 Paul Foley 57 Crusades task force 58 High Sheriffs 59 More on High Sheriffs 60 Harley family 61 Burke's peerage 62 Rayment links 63 Garibaldi in Bedford 64 Auditors of the imprest 65 DYK 66 Request for comment regarding usage of "Sir"/"Dame" in text 67 RE: Another source 68 DYK

[edit] Linden, PA PRR bridge question

Hi Choess, I was wondering if you knew the date of original construction of the PRR railroad bridge crossing the West Branch Susquehanna River at the village of Linden in Lycoming County? The reason I am asking is that I am working on Susquehanna Boom article and have looked at the 1938 PennPilot images to see the positions of the boom cribs. It looks as if the Main Boom cribs originally went beyond the bridge, perhaps meaning that the bridge was constructed after the Boom? It also seems that the bridge itself was being reconstructed in 1938 as you can see old tracks leading to it, slightly west of the bridge (and the bridge itself looks too thin in the pictures). The main boom was built in 1851 and expanded several times, so the cribs going to and past the bridge are probably later than 1851. The map is at Image:Susquehanna Boom Map Split.PNG (and any comments on it would also be welcome). Finally, I am sorry to see you aren't working on nobility articles any more - I always liked the talk page comments on them here. Hope all is well with you, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 22:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks Choess, I reread Taber very carefully and found that the main boom was completed to the Linden bridge by adding 15 cribs in 1873, so 1858 or 1859 for the bridge was definitely before that. Actually knowing it was 15 cribs, I think that you can see the last section added in the PennPilot photos (and the map). As always, I appreciate the help and information very much, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tidying up after another Burkem sock

See User_talk:BrownHairedGirl#Edits_by_User:Lineage. Do you think that you might be able to help? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lord Lieutenants

See reply at User talk:BrownHairedGirl#Lord_Lieutenants_category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

The speedy renaming has been challenged: see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add_requests_for_speedy_renaming_here. If you have references to support the change, please can you contribute to that discussion? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 August 8#Lord_Lieutenants, with some interesting comments. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

• I imagine the change from 'Lds Lt' to 'Ld-Lts' was discussed in smoke-filled rooms for many months before they decided on this elegant rationalisation! FYI the official list of court, precedence, honours etc is published in the [www.gazettes-online.co.uk London Gazette]. I came across the info on the change to Royal precedence by looking at Burke's peerage & Debretts. None are terribly easy to navigate though! Can be quite interesting for military & biographical research though. Ephebi 21:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dumfries lieutenancy

See Talk:Lord_Lieutenant of Dumfries#Dumfries_or_Dumfries_and_Galloway. Can you help? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anstruther Baronetcies

Is 1798 extant or not? -- Kittybrewster (talk) 22:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

He answers mine :) - Kittybrewster (talk) 08:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

If I may be so bold, have you had as response to your query? -- !! ?? 21:14, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I see that we have both recently posted on BHG's Talk page, and I'd encourage you (as politely as possible!) to read my contribution which is immediately below your own. Frankly, I think that IF the present Vintagekits block holds, everything will calm down rapidly. Although you probably find it astonishing to believe, it really is a case of one editor acting as a loose cannon.--Major Bonkers (talk) 10:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nobility/notability

Thanks for your message. I can't be bothered finding the exact diff where I said this many months ago, it was probably about February so it's too much effort, but I did say it back then as well. My whole feelings about articles is that they should be encyclopedic, and that nobody should be considered automatically notable. I'll even pick a "neutral" subject matter for a good example. Anyone that competes in the Olympics is automatically considered notable, so how does this sound for an article?

John Doe competed in the long jump for the United States of America at the 1904 Summer Olympics, and finished fourth.

If nothing about John Doe is known apart from this, is there really any point having an article? I want to see long articles with prose that tell you about the subject, not directory entries. That was my problem with so many articles about titled people, it was a case of "they were born, married x, had children, and died". I just don't consider that encylopedic. If that's the entire information that's available about them, there may be a place for it but I don't think an individual article is the best place, and from what I've seen of your work on merging various Baronet articles I think you agree with me on that point at least. I'm only back for the ArbCom, which probably doesn't look like it's going to happen which is a shame, as there are many wider issues that need to be looked at not just VK's behaviour. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arbcom case

SqueakBox has filed Wikipedia:Request for arbitration#User:Vintagekits in which you may be interested. - Kittybrewster (talk) 02:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peerage list templates

Hiya – you've changed all the links to lead to individuals' pages. That's fine, except that all those you've changed are redlinked, i.e. they don't exist – and if they don't currently exist, it'll be because they fail notability, so they're not likely to come into being... ^† DBD 22:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 4 September 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bald Eagle and Spring Creek Navigation, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 22:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi Choess, congrats (and I knew it was your article when I saw it on the Main Page). Not sure if this photo would work in the article or not: Image:Canal Monument in Lock Haven Pennsylvania.JPG. I took it last summer and it is near the river and courthouse downtown in Lock Haven. Hope all is well with you, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Bertie‎

Hey there. While on new page patrol, I saw you create the disambig page, but both wikilinks are red. Do you intend to shorly create both pages? — Coren ^(talk) 03:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. It's just that, as a rule, one should not create disambig pages pointing nowhere (or to only a single article). Think you could spend a few minutes and write a short stub for both?  :-) I'd offer to help, but my knowledge of that area is roughly epsilon. — Coren ^(talk) 03:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. — Coren ^(talk) 03:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SBS membership renewal request—Project in great need of contributors

The summer has passed (unless you live in the Southern Hemisphere), and for most people holidays are over. Therefore, it is time for work again. Not that work ever stops in Wikipedia, but I believe we can at last get over the stage when slow progress can be taken for granted. Like yourself, most members of WikiProject Succession Box Standardization have been away during most of the summer (and some of you have been away for much longer); this lack of contributors has almost led SBS activity to a standstill.

A couple of members have stayed, however, and things have greatly improved in the project. There is a renovated and functional main page; the talk page has organised archives and a dedicated page for archived proposals; the Guidelines page is in a very good shape and I am preparing a further set of guidelines to be proposed for adoption by the project and incorporation into the page; the Documentation page has been again updated and a potential restructuring is being planned; the Templates list is the operations centre for the ongoing removal of antiquated and redundant templates. The Offices page is the only one that has yet to be improved, but there is a proposal for that one as well. Even a new SBS navbox has been created and added to the project's pages, easing navigation between the different parts of the WikiProject, while shortcuts have been created for the three most basic pages.

And the project itself is not the only thing that has been improved; the headers system has been cleared up and rationalised during the last six months, and a new parameter system is being inserted into templates like s-new and s-vac in order to successfully adapt succession boxes to more tricky cases of succession without large, clumsy cells or redundant reasoning. S-hou has also been improved and /doc pages have been added to most of the headers' pages, as well as to many proper succession templates' ones.

Despite all these breakthroughs that have made SBS a better, more functional and more user-friendly WikiProject, things move excruciatingly slowly as far as the adoption of proposals and correction/improvement of succession boxes in the mainspace are concerned. As has been mentioned, this is due to the utter absence of all but two of its members. I completely understand that a few of them might be unwilling to resume work in SBS, and some of them might even have left Wikipedia altogether. However, we are certain that there are people intent to continue improving Wikipedia's succession boxes and helping others to do so as well. If you are one of them, please return. And even if you cannot help at the moment, but want to contribute at a later time, please let us know by renewing your membership. You can do that very easily by removing the asterisk next to your name in the member list in SBS's main page. The deadline is 31 October; members that do not renew their memberships until 23:59 of that day will be removed from the list, as these members will be assumed to have left the project for good.

SBS is a project highly capable of doing some serious work in Wikipedia. These potentials are seriously undermined by the unavailability of helpful hands. I hope you shall consider this message seriously before taking any decisions.

Thank you for your time. Waltham, The Duke of 14:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi Choess, always great to hear from you. A picture of either White Clay Creek Preserve (which has only a generic White Clay Creek picture now, not sure if it is from the park or not) or White Clay Creek State Park (which has no picture of the creek) would be great. I am working on getting Plunketts Creek (Loyalsock Creek) to FAC. I have Taber's "Ghost Lumber Towns of Central Pennsylvania" and think I can get a start article for Susquehanna and Eagles Mere Railroad out of that, but would you mind checking his Atlas to see if any lumber railroads were ever on Plunketts Creek? The book describes one going south from Masten into Cascade Township, but it is not clear if this was as far as the Plunketts Creek tributaries there or not (what with Taber's famously detailed maps and all ;-) ). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 11:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Any pic of any of the nearby state parks would be greatly appreciated, from any of the states too. Thanks Dincher 20:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks as always for the find - from the map I see that the logging railroad was in the watershed of Plunketts Creek via two tributaries: it crossed Engle Run twice and ran parallel to Wolf Run, so I will mention it. I also just found a Google Books Ref on anthrax in the Proctor tannery [1] looking for a photo of the Proctor tannery online. Little did I suspect when I started the Plunketts Creek article to fill in a red link for Dincher that it would turn into an FAC with over 50 refs (I have to add a Taber's Atlas, the map you found, and the new anthrax ref still). Much appreciated, let me know how I can help on the Bellefonte Central Railroad article. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure what the size limit for images is on Commons, but I think it is much larger than your photo (over 10 MB, IIRC), so you may be OK with uploading it as it is. That said, I use Paint.NET which can resize photos and is free. Micrsoft Paint can also resize photos with Control - W. I also recently found free software to make panoramas: Autostitch. Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Check, please

Once again you've noticed one of my silly mistakes (which I'm ever thankful for lol). I probably did it cos IIRC I was creating articles for a few of the domestic governors all at the same time. I'll go ahead and correct though. Regards, Craigy (talk) 20:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure. They seem more military to me than anything else so it might be safe to just use s-mil for now. Craigy (talk) 10:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] On the nature of categories

Hi Choess, thanks for your message. I have replied on my talk page. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] American Revolutionary

Was thinking on moving all from Category:British officers in the American Revolution to Category:British military personnel of the American Revolutionary Wars. I can't see the point of this subcat as the generic subcat for conflicts is usually split by navy or army, not by rank by conflict. Also, the vast majority of people in the cat will be officers. In addition the cat is misnamed according to the Miitary history taskforce guidelines. Whats your take on this? Kernel Saunters 18:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey Choess, thanks for the help - I see that this has turned into a problem. Apologies if this causes any hassle! Kernel Saunters 19:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

On 8 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Hill (courtier), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 16:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Dames of the Order of St John

Hi. I've restored the category because the LG doesn't say whether she was appointed a DGStJ or DJStJ (plus, as you said, it'll be handy to have in these situations). Regards, Craigy (talk) 21:22, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks again

Hi Choess, just in case you'd not seen it, Larrys Creek with your paper railroads section will be WP:TFA tomorrow. Thanks again for all your help, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• Phew - thanks for the heads up. Daniel Case has made a bunch of edits and suggestions in the last day, so I thought I was done, but I think it has tightened up the article (even if want to put the Larrys Creek Fish and Game Club's Helipad back in the article). Less than 24 hours to go, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thx 2

Nice addition to Charles FitzCharles. I wasn't aware that he was the founding Colonel of a regiment. Nicely spotted. I guess you saw it on the DYK nom list. Well done ... anything more? Victuallers 07:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for any help on Brandywine Creek

Thanks for the offer of help. The Canby book is a good source, especially on Brandywine Village, which might be a spin-off article sooner or later. I love photos but don't take good ones myself. there are lots of potential pix already, might put more in the gallery. I'll try to put in the proper references, and might put in a table of places nearby on the National Register of Historic Places. Some related articles Jacob Broom, James M. Broom Jacob Broom (congressman) Hagley Museum and Library Eleutherian Mills Jacob Broom House - it gets a bit messy! Smallbones 14:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SBS deadline expires

I certainly do not wish to appear pressing, but the fact that you have not renewed your membership in WikiProject Succession Box Standardization despite your continued work on succession boxes somewhat mystifies me. The deadline expires within the day, and I though that perhaps you have missed my previous message. You might want to work alone, of course, and this is entirely understandable, and even if you want to return in the future that is something you can do whenever you will. But I should surely like to remind you that you are have been a most valuable asset to our project so far. That, and the fact that most members write "per Choess" in their main SBS page statements, and your being stricken out of the list could create a minor problem there. :-) Regards, Waltham, The Duke of 11:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I answer here because it seemed to me that you have embraced the talk page philosophy that does not require the usage of watchlists—I may be wrong, but here I am anyway. (For the record, I prefer keeping conversations whole. Maybe you should answer here now; if you do, I will transfer the fragment in my page here as well, completing the "transcript".)

To begin with, good job with the Lords Lieutenants. I have stumbled upon many of your edits, I must say, myself occasionally working on peerage titles. I intent to spend more time on peers' succession boxes in the future, as I am pretty fond of British history and titles, and I have had little time to do that until now; I am spending much of my Wikipedia time on improving SBS, and, at times, my own user namespace. (My current pet project is to turn my userpage into something resembling a proper mainspace article. This is going to be fun.)

An important question, by the way, about Lords Lieutenants: about when do you think the transition from political to honourary title occurred? I know it was gradual, but we must set some kind of milestone. I initially thought of the Restoration, but then I realised that it was probably too early.

About the classification of the offices now. SBS's Offices page is the only part of the project that is still in (something close to) its old state. (I do not know if you have visited the other pages, but they have changed much from what you may remember; pay special attention to the Cheatsheet—more about it in the next paragraph.) It needs a drastic improvement in structure so that it can accept a good, long, thorough catalogue of offices and what we will determine as useful information about them, as well as be encouraging and helpful to unrelated to SBS editors who will want to add offices to it (an essential help, given the sheer number of titles that must be documented). I have started a draft in my Succession Box Standardization Workshop, but it is far from usable. (And I have more ideas not yet posted.)

Another thing you ought to know is that the succession templates have sufferred several changes, or, more accurately, additions. Title parameters have been added to templates s-vac, s-new, and s-inc in order to make them more adjustable to various categories of succession chains without affecting the original templates and without being obligatory (thus providing the ability to newbies to ignore them). The documentation for them has greatly improved: each template has been given its own, professional-looking documentation page (by Whaleyland), SBS's main Documentation page is currently being renovated (by me), and a Cheatsheet has been created (again by me), in order to provide a quick reference for the templates, their function, and all their parameters.

One of the new features that will probably interest you is the ability to skip missing links in the chains by using s-vac with the label "Unknown". My philosophy is that a succession chain can only be 100% useful if there are no breaks in it, and with this solution we can bypass unknown title holders and restore continuity in the chains. (For more details, see the template page, as I have not yet added information about this feature to the Documenation page.)

I hope this briefing has been of use to you. Extra-long, I know, but there are many things to say. Anyway, nice to see you back on the job. Waltham, The Duke of 16:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] London Gazette

I've noticed that you've inserted a number of references into articles referring to the London Gazette. Are you aware that the archives are online, and there is a wikipedia template {{LondonGazette}} for linking direct to the relevant page of an issue? David Underdown 15:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kildare

Thanks for changing the heading of that title page. I merely followed the link on the Earl of Kildare page. Regards, David Lauder 09:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peers & Bts

I think you're wrong on this one. If you look in Burkes, Lodge, all the good peerage books, you will see all their titles in a row and if they are also baronets at the end of the peerage list it always says "and a baronet". Then at the end of the entries it lists the creations and dates, including any baronetcies. regards, David Lauder 15:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canals, trolleys

Hi Choess. Your idea of a separate article for the Pennsylvania Canal is good, and I'll do it sometime soon. I thought I'd do the Beaver to Erie subset next, compressing the three short divisions (Beaver, Shenango, Conneaut) into one. It shouldn't take long to have the whole 1,243 miles of public and private canals in Pennsylvania covered in one way or another. You've done a nice job with the Bald Eagle and Spring Creek Navigation canal, and some of the other canals already have Wikipedia articles. My stubs are at the moment single-sourced to the Shank book. I'm sure they can be expanded and more widely supported with details from other sources. As for trolleys, I had to check my atlas to see where the Lykens Valley might be. I recently acquired a copy of Pennsylvania's Street Railways by Benson W. Rohrbeck, and, sure enough, on page 165 he has three paragraphs on the Lykens Valley Railway. Your book has much more detail, I'm guessing. Finetooth 21:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The new Pennsylvania Canal page is up and running as is the Beaver and Erie Canal. Thanks for the idea about improving the redirect page. Finetooth 04:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hypertext Protocol Refernce

Sorry about all the problems, I am not very good at being a Wikipedian! So far all of my articles have had problems and have been put on lists of speedy deletion and so forth. Please could you tell me the reference so I can add it to the references section on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SkE (talk • contribs) 17:22, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dates in succession boxes

I will kill you! I will kill you!

Sorry, I will get back to you. (hangs phone up)

Hello again, Choess. I hope that, even if you don't often answer your messages, at least you read them, for you edit a lot of succession boxes and the effects of every decision you make spread rather quickly.

What I am referring to is this: dates. There is a certain format for dates in succession boxes, as stipulated by our guidelines here. There are two elements I should like to focus on:

1. We do not link dates, for an overabundance of links in a succession box makes said box appear overly cluttered. We use the date formats popular in each country (DD month YYYY in the Commonwealth and in Europe, month DD, YYYY in North America). There are few exceptions to the linking rule, most importantly elections.
2. We always add spaces between the dates and their connecting dash, in order to improve their readability and appearance within the succession boxes and standardise all dates (as full dates accept spaces anyway).

Both guidelines have been approved after discussion between the members of SBS. Can you please, please stop undoing changes that are done following the guidelines? Please? I appreciate you as I do few other editors, but this is just frustrating. Waltham, The Duke of 11:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt response. I should like to remind you, now, that WP:MOSDASH is a guideline, and therefore it is not binding, especially since succession boxes are not text. They are a whole new set of templates, and are therefore entitled to their own style guidelines. You might be interested in this discussion.

As far as the links are concerned... Seven words: William Cavendish-Bentinck, 3rd Duke of Portland. Here is the incriminating evidence. You've been caught red-handed, Choess... Mwahahahaha! (starts coughing badly) I think I could use a glass of water here.

In any case, thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

PS: I hope you didn't think that I actually wanted to kill you. I was just talking to the phone. Honestly. ;-) Waltham, The Duke of 15:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edward Onslow

Hi, Choess! I came across your name on Edward Onslow and wondered - do you own or have access to the Sadie, Stanley (1980). The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians v. 13. Macmillan, 543. Retrieved on 2007-11-27.  used as a reference for the article? Specifically the 2001 version: [2] I'm asking because (from what I've read) there's a section about Charles Wuorinen and his sexuality. Would you let me know on my talk page? Thanks!! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lord Lieutenancies

Hello again. I have two questions:

1. As I have said again, it is rather important for me to know whether there is a certain event or year defined as the divide between the political and honourary character of the group of offices in question. I am under the impression that this is the Interregnum (which is rather convenient, too, as Lord Lieutenancies were abolished for that time period), but I cannot be certain if there is any such mark.
2. I should like to know the order in which you edit. That is, do you edit each Lord Lieutenancy's list and move on to the individual boxes, do you do the opposite, or did you edit all the lists and then proceeded to edit the succession boxes? I need to know which lists I can trust for reliable data.

Wish the blessing of the Unicorn, I bid you good day. Waltham, The Duke of 14:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Nothing further, really. I simply wanted to know because I do not check any primary sources. Ever. I simply don't bother. And I am not good at this, either (actually, I have never done it, so I suppose I'm not good at it). My have simply never been interested in writing content. This is why I asked: because I only verify data for succession boxes in Wikipedia itself, so I want to know if it is correct.

(Although I did, once, notably Google an Archbishop of York's baronetcy, which was nowhere to be found in Wikipedia. After some searching, I found it in a website that turned out to be one of the most referenced to ones in Wikipedia: Angeltowns.)

And, as I've said, the Manual of Style is a guideline. It is important, but people sometimes take it way to seriously, if you ask me. Anyway, I suppose we could tackle this some other time. Thanks for your response. Waltham, The Duke of 20:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello again. Perhaps I thought it went without question, but I probably ought to ask anyway: is the temporal barrier separating political from honourary Lords Lieutenants (the Interregnum) valid for Custodes Rotulorum as well? Just to be on the safe side. Waltham, The Duke of 21:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

As I had expected. Thank you for your prompt answer; I shall add this tidbit in the Guidelines page as soon as I find that Baronets example I am looking for, so that I make both changes at the same time. I hate the habit of doing many small edits instead of one large one, which some editors seem to have picked up. And then they say they have a high edit count. What we should be looking at is the average number of edits per page. Anyway, the whole edit-counting topic has always been bad for my stomach, so I shall leave it here. Thanks and goodnight... Waltham, The Duke of 22:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] William Cowan (politician)

I think that I may have more material and I do need to at least document the source of the existing content since it wasn't online. Do what you think you need to do, though. I am not sure how quickly I will get back to that. --Big_iron 12:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Hay of Cromlix

This may also be of interest... Neddyseagoon - talk 14:56, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for supporting my RFA

	Thanks for your support, my request for adminship passed 62/0/0 yesterday! I want to thank Snowolf and Dincher for nominating me, those who updated the RfA tally, and everyone for their support and many kind words. I will do my best to use the new tools carefully and responsibly (and since you are reading this, I haven't yet deleted your talk page by accident!). Please let me know if there is anything I can do to be of assistance, and keep an eye out for a little green fish with a mop on the road to an even better encyclopedia. Thanks again and take care, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 18:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your friendship and confidence in my ability to keep writing articles - I will do my best to live up to it (and bug you on railroad and obscure source questions ;-) ). Keep up the good work, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks too for your congrats on my talk page Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image Copyrights

My understanding is that any photo published before 1923 in the US is public domain (and a postcard is "published"). So even though the 2002 book published it again, it is still PD. I also understand that there is a Supreme Court decision that accuarate photos of two-dimensional images are not in and of themselves copyright-able (if that is a word). So I think you are doubly safe. I have scanned some Taber photos that were taken before 1923 for uploading as PD too (just have to crop the images). You still have to cite the source of the photo, but it is PD. Take care, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Nice job on Nittany Furnace (as always). How about submitting it for DYK? Maybe

...that Nittany Furnace, a hot blast iron furnace in Spring Township, Centre County, Pennsylvania, had four different owners and closed at least five times in its 23 year history?

I think I correctly counted closings, but might have missed one or two. If you don't like that hook, how about

...that Nittany Furnace, a hot blast iron furnace in Spring Township, Centre County, Pennsylvania, had four different owners between its opening in 1888 and final closure in 1911? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

No, I like your hook better. Merry Christmas, although looks like this will be on the Main Page for Boxing Day ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

Dear Choess, I wanted to wish you a very Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year! Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Dincher (talk) 19:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK: Nittany Furnace

On 27 December 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nittany Furnace, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Nice pic, too! --PFHLai (talk) 00:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

• Congrats on the DYK and the coveted first pictured slot! Did you see the comment left on the DYK nom page (suggestions if you wanted to go for GA with the article)? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:02, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Year's Honours

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I hereby award the Working Man's Barnstar to Choess in recognition of all the time and hard work he has invested into completing the information on Lords Lieutenants and improving succession boxes throughout Wikipedia. Keep it up! Waltham, The Duke of 23:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nittany Furnace GA Review: On Hold

On Hold — Notes left on talk page. Nehrams2020 (talk) 05:05, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Good job on your first GA! There are millions of other articles on Wikipedia that you can also improve to that level (or FA if you're interested), so happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 01:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!!!! I know you are not a big userbox person, but you might like this. I tried doing the crop of the center of the postcard and added it just now - if it is not useful, revert at will. Nice job and I'm looking forward to Bellefonte Furnace! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

PS GA always needs reviewers ;-)

[edit] Thank you

Thanks Choess, if you want I can make a stub for the Lackawanna & Bloomsburg as a start. I have a few sources for it, but not enough to get it (much?) past stub. On a different note, I wondered if a map showing the location of Spring Township would help the image issue in Nittany Furnace? Either this or perhaps a red locator dot on this Pennsylvania map (I can make this if you want)? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

PS I know a bit about obscure articles - Larrys Creek had never been vandalized until it was on the Main Page, White Deer Hole Creek had what I thought was a vandal but was just someone trying to fix my error (and I blocked him for that by mistake - my proudest admin moment to date), and Plunketts Creek (Loyalsock Creek) has never been vandalized. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I would make the lettering and dots much bigger. You might also want to make the letters blue or some color other than black. Looks nice otherwise. Does any part of the old furnace remain - I sometimes get over that way and could try for a photo or two. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

PS Look at Spring Township, Centre County, Pennsylvania to see how small even the word "CENTRE" looks when the source map is about 300 pixels wide. Another possibility would be to just have a red dot and a blue dot (two dots of two different colors), and just say in the caption what each represents. Come to think of it, I was probably very close to the former Nittany Furnace site when I went to Black Moshannon State Park recently on a photo expedition - D'Oh! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Much better - I would add it to the article. The other thought I had was perhaps using cropped sections of the postcard image in the article. Sort of like Ken Burns does - zoom in on a portion. Perhaps the furnace, stoves, and boiler house section? Finally, the PennPilot images are US Govt PD, so if parts of the physical plant were still around in the late 1930s, that would be a potential aerial shot. Not sure of the level of detail available though. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for locating Selinsgrove Speedway on the map! Dincher (talk) 17:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

• Ditto on the thanks for the Speedway find. I really like the Science article too - it makes a lot of sense as I kept reading descriptions of streams that pointed out how they had changed with settlement. Taber talks about Pleasant Stream being much higher year round (not today's late summer low water) before the lumbering began, Owlett's Seasons Along The Tiadaghton: An Environmental History of the Pine Creek Gorge says much the same of Pine Creek, and there is a report of a settler jumping White Deer Hole Creek to evade Native pursuers that makes no sense today, but seems much more plausible in the light of this. I am going to update the creek articles soon, thanks again Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Whenever you get the chance (next week or next year), Lackawanna and Bloomsburg Railroad is now a stub. Whoops, have to add categories. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Got it up to Start class I think, now with nine refs, and I have a DYK nomination in. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:58, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
      • Please don't worry about it - I actually am pretty pleased with the article considering the resources I had (not that it couldn't be made much better). Thanks for the tip on the UCIR - the WCOR was sold by Robey recently [3] and I need to update all the articles. I have a funny story on the Science article but will email it to you. Take care, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kingofmann

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[edit] Leiper Canal

Thanks much for the additional source material. It's amazing how much information exists though it's scattered here and there. The Brandywine, by the way, must be someone else's project. We had talked briefly a couple of months ago about trolleys, but I haven't done any more with them after a few bits related to Lock Haven and Jersey Shore. Finetooth (talk) 22:46, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

The Morlok web site you referred me to included mention of the Leiper House Museum, which I had not heard of before. It turns out to be at 521 Avondale Road, in Wallingford. Using that address as the upper terminus of the canal, I ran a MapQuest query to confirm the distance from the Leiper house along Crum Creek to the Delaware River at three miles or so close to it that I can call it three and feel satisfied. Thank you for your most helpful input. Finetooth (talk) 01:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] William Leslie (disambiguation)

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[edit] George Fletcher

I see you have a history of working on the article George Fletcher. I am looking at it from the project Wikipedia:Unreferenced articles where it is one of the longest {{unreferenced}} tagged articles that does not meet at least the barest minimum of verifiability. It has been tagged and completely without references since June 2006. It would be extremely helpful if you had some references you could add to the article to help support its verifiability and notability. Thanks for any help you can give. Jeepday (talk) 14:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Earl of Sandwich

It seems to be "Hinchingbrooke". I've wondered before whether it started off as "Hinchinbroke", since I've seen it spelt like that on several occasions, but at the introduction in the House of Lords of the 1st Earl the titles are listed as "Baron of St. Neotes, Viscount Hinchingbrooke, and Earl of Sandwich", which would suggest it's always been that way. Proteus (Talk) 21:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Arthur Onslow

Thanks- that was something of a shot in the dark and is most interesting! Schissel | Sound the Note! 15:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Mullins (British Army officer)

On 9 February 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Mullins (British Army officer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 10:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{WP1.0/assessments}}

The problem with those is that they are being used everywhere, and the NA/Dab/Cat/Template classes are not used universally. I'll ask whether anybody minds if I change it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, so feel free to add your input there. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 03:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] responses to your recent messages

Sorry I haven't gotten back to you until now.

Yes, I think a St. John's in the Wilderness article would be interesting; however I'd probably want a picture and some sources to use first.

Thanks for making the change to the Foundry photo caption. Come warmer weather, I'll take a pic of the office. The article says only one building is left standing, and since that's what you can see from the station I thought that was the office. Daniel Case (talk) 17:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] David Lauder and COI

In your AN post I'm not sure if you've misunderstood one of my original points on WP:TER, I know David Lauder certainly did. When I talked about proof of a COI with regards to the Sussexman checkuser it was referring to Counter-revolutionary in particular his image uploads which proved he was very close to many articles he'd been editing. I don't think there's anyone suggesting David Lauder editing Lauder was a COI at all. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes, Fozzie's comments were slightly harsh in respect of the "not here to build an enclyopedia" aspect. Re Kittybrewster I think I summarised it best here when I mentioned Robert Murray Arbuthnot. Creating articles on as many people called Arbuthnot as possible (even unrelated ones) may not be a COI per se, but it's certainly at odds with the encylopedia to an extent. Is the goal of the encyclopedia to document notable people, or notable (or otherwise) people called Arbuthnot? In those terms I had much less of a problem with the family member articles than the non-family member articles, as there were a great many notable members of the family. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 04:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Smithfield

Thanks for your help on the Smithfield, London article, appreciated! --DarTar (talk) 13:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Source question

Hi Choess, I have a source I use which used to be available online, but is not any longer (and the state is not planning on putting it back - I asked). The source is:

Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection; Bureau of Watershed Management, Division of Water Use Planning (2001). Pennsylvania Gazetteer of Streams (PDF), Prepared in Cooperation with the United States Department of the Interior Geological Survey. Retrieved on 2007-08-15. 

It used to be at this URL [4] (as of March 28, 2006). The good news is that I have it downloaded (it is a huge PDF), the bad news is it is no longer generally available. I have looked in the Internet Archive and cannot find it - do you know of any other place it may be online? Thanks in advance and hope all is well with you, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for finding it, Choess! I will link it next, great find! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I fixed the link in Larrys Creek and will fix the rest over the next few days. The link you found is on the Internet Archive too, though I didn't try to open it as it is so large. I have three copies of it, just to be safe. I find it easier to open the copy on my computer and look through that vs. opening it online. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review of Robert Burnell

Thanks! I got a head of steam up so managed to add a bit more than you required. Oh, well, it won't go to waste. Thanks, your comments were helpful. Ealdgyth | Talk 22:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

On the ArbCom, just look at the evidence and see if you can refute anything brought up by either side. If I've got something wrong, I wanna know it. All I can say is that what I've read leads me to believe that it was the typical medieval experience with alliances, people talked about forming a number of them, but ONE grand alliance isn't supported by the evidence. But look and form an opinion for yourself. If you have access to stuff on Armenia, that might be good to double check (I don't, and Armenian names make my head swim, so I haven't ever studied them past the "Oh, yeah, the Romans had issues with Parthia over Armenia" and "Armenians were supporters/allies/antagonists for the Crusaders too, right?" type stuf) I only got involved because of it invading Edward I of England, who I plan to work on someday. The English kings are on my list of "to-do-someday" things, like I have time (grins). Thanks for the support though. Ealdgyth | Talk 00:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Terbezek-Darbsâk-Trapessac

Choess: I would be happy to make a stub for this fortress. Could you tell me which name would be the most appropriate title for the article. The name appearing most frequently in English language literature about the Templars would be best. The Turkish name I have will not be very useful except as a redirect. Aramgar (talk) 04:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Try Trapessac. I left a list of alternate spellings on the talkpage. Please feel free to move the page if you think one of the other names is better. I am glad I could help. Aramgar (talk) 05:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: English-language histories of the Regno

Hello and thank you for the message Choess. Unfortunetly that period of the kingdom is greatly looked over by authors in the English language... I have only ever seen books from the French on the subject such as EG Leonard's "Les Angevins de Naples" wrote in 1954,[5] it has also been released in Italian as "Gli angioini di Napoli e di Ungheria" but the price is always quite steep (around 50 euros!). Historians seem to like covering the Bourbon period more. - Gennarous (talk) 03:53, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Foley, 2nd Baron Foley

Thanks for moving it back. I was just about to do it myself! Peterkingiron (talk) 23:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Foley et al.

WE seem to share an interst in the iron industry! see my user page. Many of the Foleys whom I have been converting into stubs were ironmasters. That was the source of the family wealth. I have been reluctant to write a lot of articles about individual ironworks, partly because I wonder whether they were notable enough; partly because I might want to publish my work as hard copy; and partly becasue much of my sources are unpublished archives, which constitute WP:OR. I have occasionally incoprated material form archival sources, because I can find nothing else, so as to complete a story, or to avoid republishing what I know is wrong, but have tried not to, according to WP guidelines. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Two suggested article on Robert Foley (MP) and Paul Foley (of Prestwood) done, also Robert's father. I have not been doing the succession boxes, because they are so easy to get wrong. My source for saying the Burke is wrong for Paul is family deeds etc, which I listed about 10 years ago. Rayment gives Paul's death as 1739, but that date may be the death of another Paul Foley, perhaps the barrister who was 2nd son of Paul Foley (ironmaster), the Speaker. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:51, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

After grubbing around in Google Books, looking at Romney Sedgewick's catalog of MPs, it appears that I misidentified Paul Foley; the MP for Aldborough and Weobley was the 2nd son of the Speaker, died 1739, and I've rewritten it accordingly. Choess (talk) 03:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Paul Foley

I am sure you are right in identifying the MP. I have changed his age (see article talk page), though this is technically WP:OR, die th the nature of the source. I have rescued the lost text that I wrote and added it to Philip Foley, tidying that article up in the process. Was Philip an MP after 1701? Peterkingiron (talk) 17:46, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crusades task force

Hey Choess, I know you don't work on medieval stuff much anymore, but I've created a Crusades task force as part of the Middle Ages WikiProject. I thought you might be interested. Adam Bishop (talk) 03:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] High Sheriffs

I see you've been making a few additions to High Sheriff of Northamptonshire, if you look at High Sheriff of Cheshire you'll see that I've found virtually all the issues of the London Gazette where Sheriffs' appointments are announced, back to 1840 (plus 1834). David Underdown (talk) 09:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More on High Sheriffs

Hi, I see that you changed the link from West Yorkshire from being a blue link to High Sheriff into a red link to the as-yet-nonexistent High Sheriff of West Yorkshire. It seems more useful to let the link point to somewhere with real information, but I decided that rather than just revert your change I'd make a redirect from High Sheriff of West Yorkshire to High Sheriff, so that the link would be valid if/when the page gets created at that name in future (which is why it's blue above). A downside of this is that the navbox listing High Sheriffs now has a blue link for West Yorkshire although there isn't an article, but I think that matters less. I see you've made redlinks on some other pages such as Henry Norris, 1st Baron Norreys: could you please make redirects for those too (as a temporary measure if you're planning to create the pages)? Otherwise we're losing information. PamD (talk) 07:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Oops! I endorse speedy delete of non-existent Sheriffs of the Ridings. - Kittybrewster ☎ 09:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harley family

Whoever created some of the articles on the family relied on ThePeerage.com, where this recorded one child of parents to say that was the only child. The source seems usually to be mentions of parentage in the Complete Peerage. Is this a well-known defect in that site? I looked up the Earls of Oxford in Burkes Peerage 1851 as my source. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

It is not my experience that Burke's is always correct. - Kittybrewster ☎ 23:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Burke's peerage

I was vaguely aware of the criticism of older editions. In this particular case I had to use an ancient one, because I needed a pedigree of the (Harley) Earls of Oxford from before the title became extinct. Unfortunately the Harleys of Brampton Bryan (who inherited their ancient estate) share the surname, but have a different descent. Since I was dealing with what happened in the 18th century, I would assume that mid-19th century editions were reasonably reliable. I found what appeared to be discrepancies with ThePeerage.com, which was the issue that I was raising: its compiler seemed to be recording a person as the only child, when Burke said there were several. I suspect the problem is that the compiler of the website had only seen evidence of one, and some one who wrote a WP article, seeing that, assumed that meant an only child. This looks like a case of misunderstanding the scope of the website, whose compiler has not posted detail on the Earls of Oxford. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

There ae numerous inaccuracies in "The Kingdom of Scotland" too. I suggest you email the webmaster at thepeerage.com. - Kittybrewster ☎ 22:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

• See response to your further comments in my talk page, particularly as to my AFD. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:16, 13 April 2008 (UTC).

As to writ of summons, it was Michael not William de la Pole: I misread the Oxford DNB biography. I will correct this at once. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your support over William de la Pole. I agree with your final comment that there was no evidence for the existence of Owen's son William, but I did not have sufficient access to sources to positively assert this. I must now remove the spurious information from Powys Wenwynwyn, if no one else has. Peterkingiron (talk) 08:34, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rayment links

Hi Choess

Thanks for your msg. I like to keep discussions in one place, so I have replied at User talk:BrownHairedGirl#Rayment_templates. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Garibaldi in Bedford

Hi, Choess. When I was working up James Howard (agriculturalist), I just couldn't get to the bottom of that 'Lord Leveson Gower' who appears in the Bedford Times article, except that he was presumably some relation of the 3rd Duke of Sutherland, so I decided just to repeat what the newspaper report said, even though there seemed to be no such person. Thanks for getting to the bottom of it, but I'm curious, do you have a source for Lord Albert Leveson-Gower being at that party, or is it inspired guess-work? Regards, Xn4 21:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

No, no. Look down towards the bottom of page 52 on the link to the Annual Register: "The party [visiting Bedford] consisted of Garibaldi, his two sons, His Grace the Duke of Sutherland, Lord A L Gower, Lord Alfred Paget, &c.". Albert's the only reasonable candidate for "Lord A L Gower." Choess (talk) 12:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, that's excellent, I've added the citation to the James Howard article. For some reason, in my browser your link defaulted to the book summary, and not to page 52. Thanks again, Xn4 14:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Auditors of the imprest

Might a complete list be in Sainty's "Officers of the Exchequer," (List and Index Soc. spec. ser. 18)? I can look at it the next time I go into the city. Choess (talk) 13:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I have copies the relaevant material this morning and am inserting it now. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 19 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bellefonte Furnace, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 06:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for comment regarding usage of "Sir"/"Dame" in text

(beep)

I am not sure that the discussion is not dead already, but I have just discovered it and thought you might want to leave a comment.

By the way, I have fixed the dashes in your archive box; I hope you don't mind. Waltham, The Duke of 01:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Another source

Yeah, you sent me the source a few years back and that's where I got most of the information from. I just need to add them into the articles. Thanks anyway. Craigy (talk) 21:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 11 June 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Horse Grenadier Guards, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 05:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)