User talk:Assize
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Welcome!
Hello, Assize, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- How to edit a page
- Help pages
- Tutorial
- How to write a great article
- Manual of Style
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 02:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] West Australia Project
Hi, as a matter of courtesy - could you please alert fellow editors (?) of the launching of new templates at the WA Project page - (as you might not be aware - as you seem to be single handedly re-arranging such articles for the whole of australia ) Most other states dont have state projects but we and tasmania have active projects - and such alerting would be appreciated - Thanks SatuSuro 04:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article creation
List of Western australian courts and tribunals needs a category - and if you touch western australian topics - its well worth seeing if they have wp australia wa=yes on their talk page - so we can keep track - specially if its an article you have created and no one else has seen - we dont need orphans. Also has anyone alerted you to the Australia Project New Articles and New Stubs list? That would be one way to come out of your closet - and have your work underscrutiny - whish is always needed when such a fine and wonderful arrray of articles are created - no category and limited WP:V and WP:N may well see some of your started articles challenged - best to keep close tabs! SatuSuro 04:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Class=NA means a reviewer isn't going to come along and rate it because it is not rateable. It applies only to metadata - ie. templates and categories fall into this group. Orderinchaos78 14:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Elections articles
Just wanted to say a fantastic job on the WA elections! Hope you don't mind but I used your basic template for the 2005 one when I was fixing that one. DanielT5 16:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Punctuation and capitalization
Assize, you've been doing an admirable job creating pages with substantial amounts of information on them. But you are extremely careless about using correct grammar. Leaving the whole "Magistrates/Magistrates'" thing aside, you created an article including the phrase "Western australian". There is no way you can justify the lack of capital letter there. Similarly, when you created a couple of coroner's court articles, the one you created for the A.C.T. you used an apostrophe in, and then for a couple of the states you left it out. The puncutation in the text throughout articles you have created is haphazard, with apostrophes in some instances of "coroner's" and no apostrophe in others. ("Coroner's" is correct, by the way.) I have corrected some of them, but I can't keep doing it forever. Why are you suddenly on the war path about apostrophes in magistrates' courts? What justification for "magistrates court" have you got except a typographical error in a circular?GSTQ 23:36, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Well I've checked the N.S.W. Coroners Act and there's no mention of the phrase "Coroner's Court" with or without apostrophe I can find. Nor, I'll bet, is there a reference to a magistrates' court in any N.T. Ordinance. Sure enough there's the "Coroners Court" (sic) in the Queensland Coroners Act but I'm not quite convinced you actually went through every relevant statute and found the relevantly punctuated form given that your own punctuation is haphazard throughout the articles. What statutes did you check? And why should an encyclopaedia take an erroneous puncuation as gospel just because it's in a statute? The statutes don't prohibit the courts in question being referred to in any other way (cf. the so-called magistrates' courts in the N.T.) than the name they are given by statute. Why should we not, in the articles about each court, correct an obvious error stemming from nothing other than ignorance of the rules on how to use an apostrophe in English? It wasn't a deliberate decision on the legislatures' part to create some heretofore-unknown entity different from all the magistrates' courts and coroner's courts that had ever existed before.GSTQ 03:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
An apostrophe does not have to indicate possession; it can indicate any number of relationships of which possession is only one. Generally, if you can reverse the terms and put "of" in between then there should be an apostrophe indicating the genitive. Men do not generally own the toilets they use, but that doesn't mean they are not men's toilets. My friend does not own his father, but I still talk about my friend's father. "The magistrates' court" is another way of saying "the court of the magistrates"; "the coroner's court" is another way of saying "the court of the coroner". In neither case is the lack of an apostrophe anything but an error. All I had been hoping to do was to prevent any further propagation of what seems to be a peculiarly Australian apathy, and a fairly recent one too, as to apostrophes in courts' names.GSTQ 02:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
 |
On 2 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Court of Criminal Jurisdiction, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--ALoan (Talk) 20:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 7 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ellis Bent, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--Andrew Levine 19:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 14 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Frederick Matthew Darley, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--Carabinieri 21:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
|
On April 17, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Court of Civil Jurisdiction, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
Great work again. Keep it up! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 20 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Governors Court, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
[edit] DYK
|
On 23 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Julian Salomons, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--ALoan (Talk) 12:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Lieutenant Governor's Court
|
On 25 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lieutenant Governor's Court, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 05:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Another DYK!
Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, Philip Whistler Street, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the "hook" for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on April 24 where you can improve it if you see fit.
And here I was, thinking you were a newbie finishing up your first article! You need to start your User page -- but it looks like you haven't had time... ;-) MeegsC 07:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 28 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Philip Whistler Street, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--Carabinieri 21:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Supreme Court of Civil Judicature of New South Wales
|
On 6 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Supreme Court of Civil Judicature of New South Wales, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 02:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Afd comment
Hi, I wanted to respond to the points you raise on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amir Butler. This is just food for thought...
You said "My comments about references was in respect of those quoted in the written article. I understand that it is practice that a "keeper" should update the article and include the relevant references if they really want to keep the article."
What you are describing there is a moderate degree of m:Deletionism. If that is what you think is right, you will find User:Elaragirl/Deletionism interesting. A problem with rabid deletionism is that it is easier to nominate an article for deletion or vote delete than it is to sufficiently improve the an article. Also, there is little benefit in fixing the article during an Afd, because there is about a 50% chance that the article will be deleted anyway, and the improvements will be sent to the bit bucket (i.e. throwing good money after bad). Stubs are routinely deleted because people didnt have time to fix the article. Also, often a person who votes keep has never seen the article before, and is only visiting the Afd because it has appeared on a WP:DELSORT list, such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Australia. As a result, often the people on an Afd are being taken away from their usual activities at the request of the Afd nominator who has often not tried to improve the article or discuss its future on the talk page.
My thinking is more along the lines of m:Eventualism, as stubs can serve as navigation aids, and I believe that Wikipedia has a number of systematic biases, some of which are enshrined in policy and guidelines. Finding two sources can be difficult for some topics, esp. when they can only be kept when a visitor to Afd who believes there is reason to keep needs to learn about a topic they know nothing about. see Kupari and its Afd where we learnt about a town on the other side of India by the same name (I suspect the names are actually different, but have been translated into the same Latin English letters). You will notice that a lot of ppl who come to Afds often dont put any real effort in either the vote to delete (checking the subject isnt likely to end up being a valuable article) or keep (fixing the article to demonstrate the usefulness of the article), articles are renominated after only a week, and people go on a rampage. I recommend reading a log of completed Afds (e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2007 April 21) to get a feel for how practise can differ from policy and guidelines, and how much work was done on the articles during the Afd.
It is important to keep in mind WP:DP#Alternatives to deletion: "If the page can be improved, this should be solved through regular editing, rather than deletion.". John Vandenberg 09:55, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I am glad you like the Media Watch ref but what was wrong with the ABC Radio PM ref [1] - ie *Hardaker, David. "Tribunal finds Muslims vilified by Assemblies of God preacher", PM on ABC Radio, 17 December 2004. Retrieved on 2007-05-09. "Now, one prominent member of the Muslim community in Melbourne, that's Amir Butler, from the Australian Muslim Public Affairs Committee, has changed his mind on these laws, because he says they're only undermining the religious freedoms which, say, purport to protect." - or don't you approve of ABC radio, just ABC television? You seem to think that the fact parliamentarians mention him doesn't make him notable, even though one was a UK politiicain referencing him as an Australian commentator of note - why suddenly does an ABC television program tip the balance.--Golden Wattle talk 03:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Frederick Richard Jordan
|
On 18 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Frederick Richard Jordan, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 22:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 28 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Leslie Herron, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Smee 03:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
|
On June 4, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Community Court, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Thanks again Assize for all the Australiana legalisms! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
|
On 18 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Richard Dore, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 15:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 23 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Oregon Supreme Court Building, which you nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Aboutmovies 04:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
|
On June 25, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vice Admiralty Court (NSW), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Keep cracking with the legal DYKs Assize...Happy editing, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
Did you know? was updated. On 24 June 2007, a fact from the article Oregon Supreme Court Building, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Carabinieri 16:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
|
On June 27, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Court of Disputed Returns, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
|
Did you know? was updated. On July 2, 2007, a fact from the article Robert Raymond, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Thanks again!Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
|
On July 2, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article New South Wales Sentencing Court, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Well done and thanks again. Great work.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
|
On 4 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Court of Disputed Returns (Queensland), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Andrew c [talk] 00:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New South Wales Sentencing Council
Hi Assize. You are off to such a great start on the article New South Wales Sentencing Council that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. Appearing on the Main Page would help bring publicity to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee (Talk) 14:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Court of Arbitration (New South Wales)
|
On 13 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Court of Arbitration (New South Wales), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Elkman (Elkspeak) 03:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chris erskine
I have renominated this as I waited a month as asked, however I don't know how to make a 2nd AfD debate... I have already asked another Mod, but if you get there first can you please fix whatever I've done? cheers.JJJ999 04:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Children's Court of Victoria
|
On 28 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Children's Court of Victoria, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 09:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
|
On October 30, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Frederick Garling, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On November 2, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Phillips (jurist), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Sam Blacketer 20:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 3 November 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Edward Abbott (jurist), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
—Wknight94 (talk) 13:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] re: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 November 6#Wahroonga Public School (closed)
Hello, just here to inform you that the deletion of Wahroonga Public School has beenoverturned. nat Alo! Salut! Sunt eu, un haiduc?!?! 17:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] is this number 23?
- ...that after Anthony Kemp returned to England where he was questioned about his involvement in the overthrow of William Bligh as Governor of New South Wales he again went south and became known as the "father of Tasmania"? by Assize
OK? Victuallers 10:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 13 November 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Anthony Fenn Kemp, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 14 November 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nurses and Midwives Tribunal, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
Did you know? was updated. On 21 November 2007, a fact from the article Judicial Commission of New South Wales, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:27, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 23 November 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Terence John Higgins, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
-- WjBscribe 17:11, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On December 9, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Russell Walter Fox, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
[edit] Magistrates' vs. Magistrates
The inconsistency in Wikipedia is really getting to me. Just giving you a heads-up I've started a discussion on Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian law/Policy, which I hope will involve a few more users than just you and me.GSTQ (talk) 07:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
|
On 14 January 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hugh Denis Macrossan, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Royalbroil 02:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] dyk
|
On 14 January 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chief Industrial Magistrate's Court, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Archtransit (talk) 21:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Jeffrey Miles, was selected for DYK!
|
On January 15, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jeffrey Miles, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 06:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Aboriginal Community Court
|
On 19 January 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aboriginal Community Court, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--BorgQueen (talk) 11:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] DYK!
|
On 4 February 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Richard Arthur Blackburn, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Congrats! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] James Blair (Australian judge)
|
On 3 June 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article James Blair (Australian judge), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
