User talk:Howcheng

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Contents 1 My Image 2 New Project 3 Concern 4 Ticket#2008041810018711 5 Re Tailings and Mullock 6 Re POTD scheduling 7 Kobe Bryant Main Image 8 :) 9 Mary of Teck 10 ? 11 WP:HAU 12 POTD June 21, 2008 13 Hanini.org images 14 Quickimgdelete 15 POTD 16 Question 17 Pasco-Kennewick Bridge (1922) 18 WP:HAU 19 Pearl of Allah 20 Josh Becker chinstrap photo 21 Tagging script 22 George Washington 23 Spoken article 24 Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images/2008_June_6#Image:Villianc.svg 25 Request 26 AfD nomination of List of Romancing SaGa characters 27 POTD notification 28 Respiratory System 29 Medal

[edit] My Image

On the cat page article it was said my image of a female dilute tortoiseshell & white cat was removed because there was another picture of that same coat pattern. If you would, please show me a second image on that page of a dilute tortoiseshell & white cat. Taya540 (talk) 02:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 17:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Concern

I am concerned by this edit [1] and the edit summary which accompanied it. It does not strike me as appropriate behaviour for an admin. DuncanHill (talk) 21:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe ... User:Prashanthns was complaining on IRC about sitting on Huggle and not having enough activity on his watchlist, so I offered to vandalize his user page. Can't believe it took someone that long to revert, AND that he didn't do it himself. howcheng {chat} 21:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

One reason it took me so long is that I found it hard to believe! Thanks for the explanation. DuncanHill (talk) 21:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

he he!! What if I refute :p Prashanthns (talk) 21:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ticket#2008041810018711

Regarding Quakerwildcat (talk · contribs)'s uploads, he grants permission to release his pics under "CC-2.5" (meaning cc-by-2.5) on Wikipedia. I understand that it's not acceptable for the copyright holder to only allow "use on Wikipedia". But by adding the {{cc-by-2.5}} template, doesn't that put his pics under the terms of the license regardless of his statement? Spellcast (talk) 01:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but it's best not to piss off our contributors on the chance that there may be a miscommunication. What I'm trying to avoid is the situation where later he realizes that CC-BY-2.5 means everyone and he says, "That's not what I meant!" and we reply with "Too bad you didn't read the fine print." A little clarity goes a long way, if you see what I mean. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 02:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Would kind of email response would you recommend in this situation? Spellcast (talk) 06:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

"You wrote on your image pages, 'Permission is granted by the author Scott Ableman to use this photo on Wikipedia under a CC-2.5. Any other use requires permission from the author and a link back to the author's flickr page.' I want you to understand that the Attribution license applies to everyone and not just Wikipedia. As such, the second sentence, "Any other use requires permission" needs to be removed. If you are uncomfortable with these terms, I understand and will arrange to have the images deleted. Please let me know." That's what I'd write. howcheng {chat} 16:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re Tailings and Mullock

Hi Howcheng,

Look, I'm no mining expert, not by a longshot, but when I was putting those images into the articles and touching up the articles I looked into the mullock vs tailings issue. The thing was, at Broken Hill they clearly described these as mullock heaps, even though they used the term tailings for other things, but I originally thought it must just be another name for tailings, a term I was already familiar with (I even wondered whether it was just a particularly Australian mining term for tailings - there's even a creek called Mullocky Creek near where I live). When I looked at the mullock or mullock heap article to try to clarify I found we had no such thing (wondered about creating it).

The point is when I looked them up further I felt that they are actually different things, which is why I kept the term mullock in the caption, etc, rather than using tailings. As best I can tell, tailings is largely used to describe waste products from mining operations, that are often toxic - from the article "...the materials left over after the process of separating the valuable fraction from the worthless fraction of an ore". Mullock by contrast seemed to be used to mainly describe the excess rock that had been dug out to get to the useful ore-bodies (see here for a short definition). In other words, as you dug down to get to the ore you'd be left with a lot of waste rock or mullock, then when you processed the actual ore to extract the useful minerals, the leftover waste from that would be tailings. I might be splitting hairs where there's none to be split; I'd really like someone who knew more about mining to clarify. --jjron (talk) 02:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

If there's a difference, it's very subtle. I found the Tasmanian DPIW which defines a mullock heap as "A pile or hill formed of untreated mining waste" and a tailings dump as an "Accumulation of mine waste", and this PDF from Mineral Resources Tasmania implies that they're the same also. Anyway, I'm going to keep the link to tailings in the POTD blurb; if it's not exactly the same, it seems to be close enough. howcheng {chat} 04:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re POTD scheduling

Hi, I had tried to promote Eta Carinae for POTD. I guess I did not understand the rule at first. My Bad. But, how about this image of the Milky way? Thanks. Sumanch (talk) 06:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

That one's already been POTD. See Template:POTD/2007-09-15. howcheng {chat} 17:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kobe Bryant Main Image

I saw you changed the Kobe Bryant image. Although the image you selected may be closer to a WP:FP it is not the better main image because the longstanding main image shows him in the act of shooting a basketball, which is what he is known for.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit]  :)

WilliamH (talk) 17:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mary of Teck

Hey Howcheng thanks for notifying me but no, I can't see anything wrong with the caption, it looks good--Hadseys 09:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ?

???!!! How could this be? I thoroughly checked thermae AND Dione, and they both had no featured days. Rj1020 (talk) 19:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

The Dione one was my fault, since I forgot to mark the POTD date, but the Thermae one was trickier. That FP was a replacement for an older picture. If you look at Image:Roman Baths in Bath Spa, England - July 2006 edit3.jpg you can see the POTD banner on there. howcheng {chat} 19:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:HAU

Hello again. The Highly Active Users project has gone through a complete revamping per popular demand. We believe this new format will make it easier for new editors to find assistance. However, with the new format, I must again ask you to verify your information on this page. I attempted to translate the data from the old version to the new, but with the extensive changes, I may have made some errors. Thanks again. Useight (talk) 03:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POTD June 21, 2008

Hi Howcheng,

Forgive me my ignorance as I am not completely familiar with the POTD circuitry here. June 21 is the national day of Greenland and also the day of year where the midnight sun can be seen from most areas on the northern hemisphere, and I thouhgt it would be good timing if the POTD on June 21 could be an FP from Greenland with midnight sun. What I had in mind is Image:Upernavik_evening_panorama_edit4.jpg. If this is considered too newly nominated, Image:Iceberg with hole near sanderson hope 2007-07-28 2.jpg is another recent Greenland FP, although it does ot relate to the midnight sun. If this is against some policy just tell me, and I'll forget about it. Cheers, -- Slaunger (talk) 08:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Ping. -- Slaunger (talk) 04:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll be happy to put that on for June 21. howcheng {chat} 07:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

That's great. Thank you. -- Slaunger (talk) 07:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hanini.org images

Hey there. I am told you handled this OTRS ticket authorizing images from hanini.org under CC license. However, I do not believe that hanini.org actually owns the copyright on all but a tiny fraction of the images on the site. I just noticed Image:A_Palestinian_David_Confronts_the_Israeli_Goliath.jpg which is a very famous AP wire photo; see Image:Faris odeh03a.jpg. I should probably mention that User:Adnanmuf who is behind the uploads has been disruptive generally, he's into whacky pseudo-genetics and conspiracy theories, and shows all the signs of a crackpot and tendentious editor. I'm not exactly sure how to proceed here but DanielB advised me on #wikimedia-otrs to inform you. Thanks, <eleland/talkedits> 02:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I suppose I should have checked out hanini.org before taking any action on that. Let me know if there's a deletion discussion going on anywhere. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 16:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quickimgdelete

I think a change to the format of image pages may have screwed up your quickimgdelete script - it apparently can't detect the uploader and aborts the script when notification is required. Kelly ^hi! 02:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I think this is now resolved. howcheng {chat} 16:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POTD

Hey Howcheng Could you kindly arrange for the image Image:Spinning Dancer.gif to appear as the POTD on 11th June? Thanks Muhammad(talk) 16:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Any reason for this date? howcheng {chat} 21:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The reason is kind of funny so I wouldn't like to disclose it. Anyway if it can't be arranged, then thanks for asking :) Muhammad(talk) 12:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I spotted the MacAuthor FP the other day (good caption, by the way) and while admiring the picture it suddenly dawned on me that one of mine was actually featured a little ahead, but wasn't on the main page before this one. The image in question is Image:Japanesesuicide.jpg, which was nominated and closed in late december 2007, whereas these recent ones are from early 2008. Did this one just get overlooked, or was it being saved for something special? TomStar81 (Talk) 05:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes, that one. Sorry, I should have told you, but I decided to skip that one. After consulting with other Wikipedians, I came to the conclusion that it was simply too grotesque for the Main Page. We always get complaints when we show dead people (e.g., Template:POTD/2007-11-27) and the Japanese soldier one was far gorier. I tried to apply the standard of, what would a major newspaper do, and I don't think I've ever seen anything comparable on the front page of the LA Times. howcheng {chat} 16:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see. That explains a lot. Thanks for the explination. TomStar81 (Talk) 07:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pasco-Kennewick Bridge (1922)

On 2 June 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pasco-Kennewick Bridge (1922), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 17:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:HAU

Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 17:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pearl of Allah

Thank you for protecting this page. As you may see Batgirlreturns had made major deletions and changes in the website. I had warned her twice for vandalizing. I request an undo of her last attempt and I honor your decision as to any outcome. --Penquin3 (talk) 20:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't really care who is right here. Please, the two of you need to work it out on the talk page and come to some sort of agreement. howcheng {chat} 20:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Josh Becker chinstrap photo

Hi howcheng, I've just learned that my photo of Josh Becker and his beard has been deleted because Josh Becker says it is not a photo of him. I'm assuming that the Josh Becker who complained is the horror film director. It is true that my photo is not a photo of him. But it is, in fact, a photo of Josh Becker from Burt, Iowa whom I attend the University of Iowa with. This was clarified in my original caption of the photo, but someone edited it. In relation to the article "chinstrap beard" it is very relevant, although based upon the current definition I feel the photo belongs on the "neck beard" page, if there is one. Thanks! 21:16, June 3 2008.

Actually, your original caption was empty, and all it said was "{{PD-self}}", so I guess someone simply assumed it was Josh Becker the horror film director. I'll restore the image and add it to chinstrap beard. howcheng {chat} 03:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tagging script

Hello, Howcheng! I hope you're fine, long time no seen. A minor edit on your script must be done, it's using {{Image source}} for noting the uploader (Which is for bots, look at the note at the end of the template "Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice?"), it must use {{Di-no source-notice}}, the same on {{Image copyright}} and {{Di-no license-notice}}. Thanks!--OsamaK 10:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] George Washington

If you have a chance, check out George Washington. I've helped upload the recorded version; if you've done this sort of thing before, please let me know if I've done it right. P.S. This guy has a really great voice!) - Nunh-huh 01:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've actually never done this before, but I just followed the procedures at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia. I'll have one of their regulars check it out. Thanks! howcheng {chat} 04:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spoken article

Everything looks just fine for the upload and inclusion of the soundfile for George Washington. Well done it is too. However, a few technical nitpicks. The opening statements are helpful for the visually impaired and general ease of use (i.e. "Article name, from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, at E N dot wikipedia dot org."). The only other issue is missing the license statement at the end of the article ("This sound file and all text in the article are licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License, available at www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html")

Beyond those points, everything is perfect. Thanks him for his contribution and your efforts in posting and we hope to see more in the future. I've also noted you inclusion for a request for review. One of us should get to it shortly for additional feedback. Cheers.

• Reason turns rancid (talk) 00:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images/2008_June_6#Image:Villianc.svg

With all respect, your speedy close was flawed. First, the image is on Wikipedia and should be deleted from Wikipedia. Second, it is a licensed cartoon character with a skin colour change, a blatant copyright violation of a licensed character. Please reopen the discussion, thanks. All the best, Gwen Gale (talk) 00:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

No, the image is on Commons. I don't see why you think it's on Wikipedia. See the log -- it has never been uploaded here. howcheng {chat} 00:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, first, I now understand the rationale as to why it's not a copy vio, so never mind on that. But second, I see the log, so I'm muddled now: This is the first Commons image I ever ran across with a delete tab (which is why I thought it was here). What am I not getting? Is the delete tab only for a template? Gwen Gale (talk) 00:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The page is here (because of the FPC templates) but the image isn't. Confusing, I know. Kelly ^hi! 00:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Thanks for the FYI about the Korean rail car image. I have a request for you though, if its not too much trouble: Could Image:Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima (color).ogg go up as the FP on July 4? The date and the image are pretty much perfect for each other, and hence the request. TomStar81 (Talk) 09:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of Romancing SaGa characters

I have nominated List of Romancing SaGa characters, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Romancing SaGa characters. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 05:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POTD notification

Thanks for the note... Cheers! ArthurWeasley (talk) 05:41, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Respiratory System

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Respiratory_system&diff=218656810&oldid=218172685 I have some concerns in placing the image at this point into be in Respiratory System article. In particular the fact that their may be some mistakes... nevertheless it does portray a respiratory system. Could we compromise and place the image with only number for now? Please take a look at the corresponding talk page before putting this image in any other article. (late signature) --CyclePat (talk) 22:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Medal

		The 50 DYK Medal
		Seems like someone forgot to award you this, I'm sure you should have received it long ago. Well done Howcheng! Your contributions at DYK are always appreciated. Gatoclass (talk) 23:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually I'm only at 49. :) howcheng {chat} 23:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Well someone's messed up, because according to the DYK Hall of Fame you have 58 already! Gatoclass (talk) 09:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)