Talk:Anwar El Sadat
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[edit] Mubarak
Not particularly important, but I think the Hosni Mubarak stuff was relevant - it was the response to Sadat's assassination and ought to be included, especially since it continues the pattern established by Sadat of repressing Islamists. Graft 01:22, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Where's the real picture?
A black-and-white picture of the Carter, Begin, and Sadat standing in line? What? Let's have that picture where Begin and Sadat are shaking hands with a smiling Carter behind them! - Hbdragon88 05:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
The dates at the beginning of this article may be wrong, and at any rate are phrased in a confusing manner. This really needs to be fixed.
I think a color picture was not put up in order hide his clear African characteristics.--Mrman2 23:12, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Mrman2, you racist bigot, I'm an Egyptian proud of my Arab and African heritage. Anwar Sadat was Egyptian first, Arab second, and African third as all Egyptians identify them selves. Half of Egypt is black the other half brown with a relatively small white minority. When Arabs think of Anwar Sadat they don't think African they think Arab. Get your facts straight and don't try to make this about Africans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.196.227.198 (talk) 18:14, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Infobox
That infobox in the article was quite a mess. I took the liberty to work on it and I think it's looking better now. However, it's still lacking the Prime Minister. Maybe someone could check on that. I'm not sure how to add that. Thanks! ;) --Maxl 16:57, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
There is a misnomer in this article. The Egyptian people are not Arab. They identify with the Arab world and consider themselves Arab, but this does not make it so. The Egyptian People are a racial mix of Black North Africans, Nubians, and varios other peoples. They are not really racially Arab. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oji The Unseen (talk • contribs) 21:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- An Arab is simply someone whose first language is Arabic... a descriptor that does apply to the vast majority of Egyptians. --Nicole Javaly
[edit] photo
Once again. Anwar Sadat deserves better than that crappy photo of him, Carter, and Begin standing in line. Can we please somehow acquire a color copy of that famous handshake? The B&W one that was put up was removed due to a lack of source info, and anyway the color version IMO is much better. - Hbdragon88 04:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Images
I think there is no harm in keeping both images, but we also want to make sure we are not faced with the same situation that happened when all the images were removed — Zerida 21:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- What was the story Zerida?--Zleitzen 21:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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- If you check the history you'll find that the page had many images until an admin stepped in to clear and subsequently put most of them up for deletion as part of an encyclopedia-wide clean-up. Because of the insistence on keeping the image of the American production (see reverts between admin and user), the Egyptian film poster was apparently deleted. I think it's legitimate to have one of the Egyptian production if only one of the images are allowed to stay. — Zerida 21:46, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've tried to find all kinds of ways in which the two pictures could be incorporated into the article, but you're right, there is no room for two and the Egyptian production must take precedence. --Zleitzen 00:09, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Change of Article Name required! Should read ANWAR AL SADAT
As Anwar Al Sadat carries the "Al" (Arabic: ال) in his name, this encyclopaedic entry should do justice to the correct and factual citing of names, having the missing name fragment duly added! The Article should thus read "ANWAR AL SADAT". (In comparison we would not speak of Charles Gaulle, when referring to Charles de Gaulle, would we??). Additionally the inherent Arabic phonetics ought to be mentioned here: In Arabic the name is pronounced Anwar As'Sadat (ASSADAT) the L remaining silent. The name will never be cited as "Anwar Sadat", while the last name SADAT, without the preceding Arabic article "Al" (the) is often used, however only when standing alone. Someone ought to create an article ANWAR AL SADAT and have this article redirected to it! Pantherarosa 21:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Done. You could easily have done it yourself by "move". --Maxl 19:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] New picture
I put a more appropiate image of the former president on the page. Elhombre72 00:32, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bias
There seems to be lots of bias in this article, most obviously the sentence "He was a great leader." slipped in at the end of "During Nasser's Presidency". (unsigned comment)
[edit] Changes to form and prose
I've made some edits, mostly to form and prose rather than substantive factual alterations. Removing superfluous statements, which though factual, are not good prose and hinder the literary quality of the page, and relocating part of the "During Nasser's presidency" section to the "Presidency" section. The former section requires a great deal more information, but the portion that I moved is better located in the "Presidency" section. Final edit of significance relates to the October War, including mention of The Crossing. Louse 10:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Assassination
Toward the end of ch. 4 of Vali Nasr's book The Shia Revival it is implied that Muslim revolutionaries under Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran had encouraged the assassination with money and organizational help. In fact, that book says that there is a street in Tehran named after the chief assassin, Khalid al-Islambuli. Shouldn't there be something about Iran in the article next to allegations about Egypt, the US and Israel? Orthografer 04:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well: I have to agree with you. Extremely sexy 20:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone who actually knows anything about Egyptian Islamists takes seriously the idea that the Gama'a Islamiyya (or the Jihad Group)were in any way shape or form connected to Shi'a Islamists from Iran. The fact that the Iranian revolution had just succeeded may have given them some hope, but there is no chance whatsoever that the Iranians were behind this. jackbrown 05:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
On a somewhat related note, I am surprised that this article pins the assassination on the Jihad group unconditionally. My understanding was that in 1981, the 'Majlis al-Shura' ('Consultative Council') of the Gama'a Islamiyya (headed by the famed 'blind shaykh') recruited Khalid Islambuli to carry out its decision to assassinate Sadat. Members of the council were arrested two weeks before the killing, but they didn't spill the beans, and Islambuli killed Sadat. For an account that uses this version of events, look at Middle East Report,'s January-March 1996 issue, specifically Hisham Mubarak's interview with Tala'at Qasim, ex-head of the Gama'a Islamiyya. On pages 42-43 Qasim deals specifically with rumors of Jihad Group involvement in the assassination, and denies them entirely. I think the Wiki article needs to deal with the question of authorship of the assassination more directly and clearly.jackbrown 05:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Included your info in the article. --BoogaLouie 21:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
