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[edit] No problem

You got it right. Don't worry about it. The Ungovernable Force 22:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comments on anarchism

Thanks for your comments on the talk:anarchism page. They were very nicely and civilly put. However you stated that anarchism is communism.

anarchism is anarchism and communism is communism. Similarly stars are stars and planets are planets. Animals are animals and plants are plants, (despite the modern geneticists attempts at losing this dictincion.)

There is good and bad, despite the trend to pretend that this dictinction does not exist. It does.

Love is not hate. War is not peace. Negative liberty means nothing and positive discrimination even less. I'll admit that I don't understand newspeak and will not make any attempt at trying to, as I find it injurious to thought. (I like thought.)

Anarchism is anarchism. Communism is communism. Freedom is freedom. Now if you said anarchism is freedom, that I would agree with, as in an anarchic state there would be freedom.

Hope you didn't take offense at what I just said here. What I just said here is what I just said here. Nothing more or less. peace, Shannonduck talk 16:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awesome!

You're a firebreather? Cool. The Ungovernable Force 00:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for mediation

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[edit] Martin Emond merge

As I say on the talk page - the merge isn't controversial and should be done as soon as possible I just quibble with the direction (for the reasons listed). If there are no good arguements why the second entry should be the one to be merged into then I'd suggest merging it into the original article. {Emperor 03:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC))

[edit] err?

To do list: List of inedible foods. Is it just me, or is that a contradiction. What exactly qualifies as inedible food, McDonalds? Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen! 04:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I get it. Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen! 05:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mithraism

Hey Aelfinn,

Thanks for editing the Mithraism page. But a lot of your edits are really to do with Christianity, rather than Mithras, and I'm not sure that they should be in the Mithraism article. Would it cause you deep pain if I redited your comments with this in mind? Roger Pearse 13:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for your kind message! I'll try to tread softly, and keep what I can. Feel free to alter it if you feel I missed something important. Roger Pearse 15:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pittsburgh rare

Thansk for contributing Pittsburgh rare. However it ends mid-sentence. Is there something more to say or should we delete "Place the steak on a grate so that..."? Cheers, -Will Beback 21:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

There's now a question about the oven temperature required to achieve this degree of doneness. 2300 F may be too incredibe. Your participation would be appreciated.-Will Beback 11:40, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hoover (seal)

I could see this page up for deletion for notability or citation, but nonsense? Jeesh. Somebody's a bit triggerhappy. Aelffin 19:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I've expanded and sourced the article since your comment. Removing speedy deletion was a sound decision. Surely a talking seal with an obituary in The Boston Globe is notable. Right? Mgm|(talk) 10:06, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brine pools

I don't know if you're a veteran user or a newbie, but I found this in your contributions.

03:13, November 17, 2006 (hist) (diff) Brine Pool (Redirecting to Brine pools)

Please remember that titles should be singular whenever possible (Wikipedia:Naming conventions), so this article (and all the related links) should've been pointed to brine pool rather than brine pools. - Mgm|(talk) 11:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hi

hi nshan13 is cool

[edit] Article for Deletion Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League

You have contributed as an editor to the article above. It is being considered for deletion. You can comment on this here.

Also it would be helpful if someone could provide a cite to the Minneapolis Star Tribune or other major media cite for the 1988 "bowling ball" incident discussed in the article.Edivorce 03:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Apology

I made comments RABL and L&R that users should not place template tags on article without discussing their reasons. I have found that users seeking deletion often place such tags to make an article appear "troubled." When I looked at the history I found that you placed the tag. Based on your comments this can only be seen as seeking honest assistance in improving the article. I should have looked at the history first. Sorry. Edivorce 04:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heh.

The comment you posted here made me laugh. 31337 03:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mon Calamari.

I never said that Omarion101's name was self-promotion for a celebrity: it's actually possible impersonation of a celebrity. As for my own name, I never said on my user page that it was from Star Wars, I said that it was from a fictional planet. I am not promoting squid, food, or Star Wars with my user name. I also think that "Acalamari" sounds good as a name. Acalamari 03:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What?

I simply did what HignInBC did. It was not vandalism. If HighInBc had not removed it several times first, then I wouldn't have removed it at all. Acalamari 17:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I will leave a message for HighInBC as well. If it were a personal attack, then you could certainly remove it. But if you read it, you will see that the user did not attack User:George Carlin. Aelffin 17:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Wêr Bisto

[edit] Citing sources for transhumanist articles at risk of deletion

Hello Aelffin, could you please help us in finding independent sources for the subject of the following articles to avoid deletion:

  1. Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies
  2. George Dvorsky and Betterhumans
  3. James Hughes

--Loremaster 15:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] British English

Hmmm..I can't understand why Jack Lumber has labelled this... "Although the language as spoken in Britain has also gradually changed over the centuries, British English still remains closest to the 'original' dialect that the emigrees themselves spoke before they left Britain". ...as a false claim. I am a Brit, and I speak fairly standard working-class 'British English' - not the sanitised 'BBC' version that you are used to hearing in our exported media. If you could hear me, your 'American ear' would think that I sounded like something that had just stepped-off the ship from Bristol in the 1700s :-) I'll leave it up to the two of you... ChrisRed 08:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Fairy Nuff. I think that you are right about Northumbria, I would also include the working-class Devon/Cornwall and Black Country/Birmingham accents in a list of dialects that have changed the least since colonial days. I thinks it's incorrect to judge 'British English' by using 'BBC' English as a datum, as very few of us actually talk like that, unless we do our usual trick of shifting into 'neutral' English to be understood when talking to foreigners. This was always the accent of the educated and the affluent, whereas most settlers were generally 'working-class misfits', agricultural workers, or even (especially Australia) members of the underclass who were transported against their will. Perhaps as a limey I am too close to see the real picture, and you are better placed with your objective 'American Ear' :-)

All the best, and toodle-pip from jolly old blighty. ChrisRed 15:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] AfD nomination of German-Russian pidgin

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[edit] Translation

Erzgebirgisch: You should post your translation request at Wikipedia:Translation, even if you want to do the bulk of the work yourself, there you have a better chance of meeting people to help you.  Andreas  (T) 21:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Iceland

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[edit] Erzgebirgisch

I have created Erzgebirgisch/Translation_workspace and started the first section. It is quite a long page, so I would rather do it step by stepJasy jatere 09:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Looking over the section again I realize that there are some typos and the like, but hey, I hadn't proofread it, so it's still quite OK. The article is definitely long enough to get drowned in it. Which parts of it have you been working on? I propose to do a rough translation of the content first and wikify it later.
Tilgung should be 'apocope'. 'Elision' would be Verschleifung, and IIRC only takes place between words, but not inside. So French l'eau is elision but p'tit is apocope. Jasy jatere 16:06, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I replied on the talk page Jasy jatere 17:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

The error is easiliy overlooked. I had to read the sentence several times myself to see what was wrong. I am not familiar with the dialect, I just saw the page on the translation required page. There might be recordings available on the linked webpages.

there are some linked sound samples on the german wp Jasy jatere 11:42, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Arthur Jensen

I removed the quotes along with vandalism, didn't realize I had. Zazaban 21:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] We seem to share similar interests.

Been looking over your userboxes and we seem to be interested in similar things. (Don't look at my userpage, it's waaay outdated!) Zazaban 23:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

It's updated now. Zazaban 23:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erzgebirgisch

Hi Aelffin, I won't have much time to work on the Erzgebirgisch translation during summer, but the translation part seems pretty much finshed. Copy-editing still needs to be done, but I think that knowledge of German is not required for that. So, shall we move Erzgebirgisch/Translation_workspace to Erzgebirgisch? Jasy jatere 13:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please use edit summaries

Hello. Please be courteous to other editors and use edit summaries when updating articles. The Mathbot tool shows your usage of edit summaries to be extremely low:

Edit summary usage for Aelffin: 13% for major edits and 50% for minor edits. Based on the last 150 major and 10 minor edits in the article namespace.

Using edit summaries helps other editors quickly understand your edits, which is especially useful when you make changes to articles that are on others' watchlists. Thanks and happy editing! --Kralizec! (talk) 03:08, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] COSI Columbus

In reply to your message [1], I did listen to the NPR story when the reference was added to the article. However, I did not hear any specific references to either COSI, Christy Varner and Nathan Bellomy the trainers, or Doris and Edelia the rats. Sorry if I made a mistake; once I am no longer at work (where streaming audio is block), I can go back and re-listen to the story (like most NPR stories, it was quite good). --Kralizec! (talk) 17:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Georgia

While perusing your userpage, I noticed that you have Image:Flag of Georgia.svg listed under U.S. States I've Visited, however I suspect you actually meant to use Image:Flag of Georgia (U.S. state).svg. I made the exact same mistake myself.  :-) --Kralizec! (talk) 17:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Aelffin/Sandbox

Template:Aelffin/Sandbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.--Old Hoss 20:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

In future, please keep all of your sandboxes in a user subpage, as the template namespace is reserved for templates, and not user sandboxes. –sebi 01:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Simple translation request

I noticed you were listed as a German-English translator. Would you be willing to translate this table?--Max Talk (+) 07:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiThanks
Thank you so much.--Max Talk (+) 20:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Double the phat.jpg

I don't understand the copyright tags on this image. If it's public domain, we don't need special permission to use it. Can you clarify how you know the image is public domain? — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:11, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

If the cover is released into the public domain, then it isn't fair use, it's free content. But I don't see a copyright statement on the website. Maybe I missed it? Do you have an email from the webmaster saying the images are public domain? — Carl (CBM · talk) 04:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
That image ("copyright violation for the nation") is hardly an explicit copyright statement for the site. If the image is free, there is no need for the fair use tags. At the moment, the image license tags there don't make sense. — Carl (CBM · talk) 12:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Just putting that symbol on their website somewhere doesn't give a clear copyright statement - it looks to me like it's just a sign that they sympathize with that position.
Public domain and "free use" are the same. The issue is that the image has fair use tags on it. Fair use is a provision in copyright law that is only applicable when you don't already have permission to use the image. If the image is public domain, fair use is no longer relevant, so the image shouldn't have fair use or "non-free" tags if it is a free image. — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree the image is a statement of principle, but I don't see it as a clear copyright release for the info. Anyway, I'll write to the site and clarify the license directly with them. Thanks, — Carl (CBM · talk) 17:03, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Here's the permission:

At 06:22 AM 8/27/2007, you wrote:


Hey Mark, some Wikipedia editors are getting pissy about image copyrights. Would you mind providing a quote I could put on the images I uploaded from your website? Something to the effect of “I’m Mark Gunderson and I approve this image.” Thanks!
 
Have fun at the burn! (jealous)
 
-Nathan

     Hi Nathan; you have the permission of myself (TradeMark Gunderson) and The Evolution Control Committee to use materials of all kinds (including images, audio, video, and text) in any way you see fit.  Such as Wikipedia.  Thanks!

- TradeMark G.
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Aelffin 12:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting the email; it makes it easier to see what has actually been released. The email does not say that these images are public domain or released under a free license. It is only a grant for use by Wikipedia. We classify such images as nonfree because they cannot be used by others. What we need is either an explicit release of the images into public domain, or a release under a license we consider free, such as GFDL or CC-BY-SA. — Carl (CBM · talk) 02:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, as I said, Wikipedia doesn't consider that sort of release to be a free license. I'll email him sometime to see if the pictures are under a free license. If they aren't, we won't be able to use those pictures on the discography. Lists of nonfree album covers aren't permitted. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Korean War

Read the talk page why the reference was deleted. John Smith's 22:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Just stopping by to solicit your input for the new section I just addded on casualties in the Korean War article. If you could give me an idea of what other information you'd like to see there, or any other suggestions or critiques, it would be most useful. Thanks for helping to get the article in better shape. wbfergus Talk 18:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
hi and thanks for your comments on the discussion pages of the korean war article. it is nice to see others noticing how simply being ignorant of other views does not equal being neutral. now if i can just get you and other KW folks to see how NPOV is the opiate of the wikimasses... :) Hongkyongnae 15:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Love and Rage/RABL merger

Might I suggest that this merge is never going to happen, and that it would be best if the merge tags were now removed? You placed the tags back in January, and nothing has happened since. I would say the proposal is moribund. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 17:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. As to your question, yes, I have published a number of things in different places, but all under pseudonyms (which I never reveal). Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 04:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bollywood

Hello friend!

I kindly ask you to stop filling up the See also section in the above-mentioned page with references and Wikilinks to other film industries in India and the world. It has no rerlation to Bollywood at all. The same applies to other pages too. Thanks, ShahidTalk2me 19:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Only one request: please don't leave me messages on my user page, but on my talk page. ShahidTalk2me 20:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tuva Workgroup

As a past contributor to a Tuva-related article, I was wondering if you would be interested in forming a Tuva workgroup of Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia with me? If enough people show interest, I'll go ahead and create the workgroup. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 18:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Social insertion

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The article still needs clarification. It is impossible for someone not familiar with anarcho-left issues to understand just what "social insertionists" advocate from reading this article. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC) (IWW G.O.B. Milwaukee)

[edit] Minor correction requested on Anarchism discussion

I think you meant to attribute "a political philosophy encompassing theories and attitudes which reject compulsory government ..." to Sunray, since you are quoting him.[[2]] You may have mistakenly attributed it to "Doright." Thanks. Doright (talk) 21:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Franziska Drohsel

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The content may be worthwhile; but it must be in English, to appear in the English-language Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
That second deletion was a button-clicking accident; the translated Franziska Drohsel has been restored! --Orange Mike | Talk 17:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Aber natürlich! --Orange Mike | Talk 18:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reduction in scope of {{Template:Forms of government}}

Since you have been active on the template talk page before, I thought I would let you know that I have initiated a debate to reduce the size of {{Template:Forms of government}} here. Thanks, --Lmbstl (talk) 05:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Mini-sandbox

Nathan McKnight -- Aelffin (talk) 16:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] howdy

sorry to pop up out of the blue like this, but i was wondering if i could just ask you a favor - the article on Naomi Klein is pretty regularly besieged by pov editors attempting to violate WP:undue by focusing disproportionately on the minority of criticisms of her recent book while failing to acknowledge the overwhelming majority of praise. whatever one's personal feelings on the book, it's pretty inarguable that it was well reviewed by most people, which wikipedia should naturally reflect. sorry to ask you, but i've been dealing with the same people for months, and it gets pretty boring reverting the same silliness over and over. i got into a thing like this over on the ralph nader page a few months ago with a user who was later found to be a sock puppet and blocked. i'll be posting this message on a few other user pages just in case you've gots your plate full or just plum don't wanna do it. thanks Marshmellowgoggles (talk) 22:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


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