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Contents 1 Alive 2 Categories 3 bullet proof vest 4 Louis?!? 5 Is Hearing Only The Beginning? 6 Headaches/Passing out 7 Markings on shoulder 8 Dyslexia 9 Peter Petrelli? 10 Grunberg spotting 11 Who's the daddy? 12 Another power (lie detection)? 13 Japanese 14 more than telepathy? 15 Did Parkman knew that Sylar was Nathan? 16 Parkman's lack of judgement? 17 Killed Hana? 18 Age 19 Power 20 Cleanup 21 Sylar07's edit of 7 Dec 22 Discussion of edits

[edit] Alive

Im pretty shore hes still alive cause when he was on the stretcher his face wasnt fully covered when dead people do.

[edit] Categories

Wait, wait... are we really ready to classify Matt as a Superhero? --DJ Chair 18:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I dont think he is explicitly called a superhero anywhere here? However, out of anyone else on this show I think he, and the cheerleader, comes the closest. Hes actually saving peoples lives, others are painting pictures, jumping off playground sets etc.

That comment was addressing the categorization made by a user a couple of weeks ago, it has been since decided that until the character does something "super-hero-y" that the category won't be added. But, I think Matt has the next best chance at being called a Superhero --DJ Chair 02:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Hero= someone who does good deeds. Super= over, better, (supergenius, superstrong...etc) Matt fits both of these catagories, answer your question?69.118.144.236 23:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] bullet proof vest

Why dose it link to bullet proof vest? Sylar could have been useing another superpower. The brain thing is most likely permement power theft.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tortanick (talk • contribs) at 21:47, October 10, 2006

Well, those are nice assertions, but highly unlikely. The bullets fell to ground after he got up; they pushed him down and fell out of him. Read the bulletproof vest article, you might learn thing. And your brain theory, while nice, isn't really helpful. Even if I wanted to do something with it, this isn't Sylar's article. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 23:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

W-ouch, there's some serious fire burning beneath these ACS posts, it's delightful to not be on the receiving end from time to time! --DJ Chair 13:13, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Better to be blunt than pretentious. I'm not Maddy. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 16:47, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Louis?!?

Why does his wife refer to him as Louis after they make love in the episode "Hiro's"???--Sdp4408 05:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I thought she just exclaimed in a rush of breath, like "whooeey!" Rihk 00:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is Hearing Only The Beginning?

I find it unlikely that Matt's powers are just limited to receiving the thoughts of others in a form of language that only he could perceive. A bulk of other fictional telepaths has attained control of several aspects of the ability: Taranee Cook's (from W.I.T.C.H) version allows her both reception as well as transception of existing thoughts, and even the Anzati species, from Star Wars, have honed their power in such a way they could literally stun sentient beings by mere mind power. It's possible that Matt has yet to acess his potential to the fullest, just like Peter did until the episode "Distractions", where he learned he can summon back powers that he been exposed to in the past even if their original masters were several miles away from his immediate vicinity. Plus, I think the idea of him being able to transmit his own thoughts to others will be a cool idea, since Bennet likened Matt's ability as a "one-way conversation". And if he ever develops this different aspect of his power, well, Bennet, watch out. 'Cause no amount of cotton swabs will prevent you from hearing telepathic insults from Parkman if you ever piss him off. At least neither of you will never need to put each other on speed dial no more; that or Matt wouldn't need a cell phone no more

I think it'd also be cool if he could somehow communicate with (if not control) animals via his power, I mean that's how Aquaman plays hero in scaly tights, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.247.98 (talk) 05:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

How would these changes improve the article? RussNelson 05:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

When he telepathically convinced Nathan that they were attacking each other due to Maury's mental illusion, was that the first time he "spoke" with someone, telepathically? --192.58.204.226 15:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Headaches/Passing out

Twice we have seen Matt pass out after trying to pick out a certain person's thoughts in a crowded area and narrow it down. Is it too early to add as a "weakness"? Rihk 00:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

What? Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 00:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

There's nothing hard to understand with Rihk's comment, he wants to know if we should mark a section in Matt's article called weakness and list his inability to narrow his field of telepathy in a crowded room.

However, I believe that this is the show's way of portraying his development of his power. Imagine you're in a room full of people, who are all shouting at you at the top of their lungs... you try to listen to only one as you walk around the room, but doing so alters the volume of each person. Soon enough, you'd be likely to have a head-splitter too. --DJ Chair 13:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

not to mention that mr. bennet says that they had to drug him, which is why he passes out in the bar. --Sdp4408 14:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

There's plenty hard to understand if you don't simply (mis)interpreted it with your own POV. It's already mentioned that multiple thoughts have been a problem. However, like SD said, he was drugged before and we don't know for sure if he collapsed again here. As for the headache, I thought he had that coming in. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry ACS, my bad. It seemed that he had a headache from excessive mind-reading of his wife during the day, to try and repair his marriage. When he went to get aspirin, he taxed his power to the limit, apparently. Perhaps he was still under the influence of HRG's drug though. Until next week, we can't say for certain. Rihk 144.15.255.227 02:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

seems he gets nosebleeds too. Rihk 05:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

But when Matt was talking to Ted Sprague at the FBI headquaters, Ted said that he started getting headaches after he was kidnapped by the Haitian. And Matt didn't start getting headaches until after he got kidnapped.71.201.77.1 00:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Markings on shoulder

Near the end of "Nothing to hide" it is revealed that Parkman and Theodore Sprague both have similar markings on their shoulder blades. I gather we don't know the cause of this yet. It doesn't look like Nikki's tatoo. I'd speculate some sort of chip that Bennet's people had installed on them. Has this been seen on other characters? Is it too soon to note this in the article? -MrFizyx 21:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd say it's too soon yet. But it'll be something to keep our eyes on. WorldsCollide 22:00, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dyslexia

In "Six Months Ago", Matt revealed that he has difficulty with the detective's exam not because he doesn't know the answers, but because "half the letters look backwards", indicating that he suffers from dyslexia. Runolfr 21:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and that's already in the article. :) Primogen 22:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Silly me. I thought it would be under a "Six Months Ago" heading, not at the top. Runolfr 22:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

It's up there because it's been mentioned in more than one episode. "Six Months Ago" was the second time his dyslexia has come up. --Psiphiorg 00:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Petrelli?

Shouldn't the interview with Peter Petrelli in 'Fallout' be included? Esp. since he trays to read Peter's mind...and have Peter in turn read his mind. Cymbalta 20:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

What about it, that it caused a resonant feedback loop? Rihk 04:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grunberg spotting

Greg appears in the last shot, in a bathtub on a trailer-bed rolling down the street, of the commercial for the Kimberly-Clark/The View Room-a-Day Giveaway.

I added the above to Trivia on the actor's page, but refrained from adding it to the Matt Parkman page :) --Bill W. Smith, Jr. (talk/contribs) 19:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who's the daddy?

It does not even occur to Matt that the baby his wife is carrying may not be his, but I am sure it eventually will. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. (talk/contribs) 19:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another power (lie detection)?

In episode 11 Matt was able to tell that Peter wasn't lying about Claire, despite the feedback. When Peter said "You need to find her. You need to protect her." there was a pause when Matt was looking at Peter (possibly using his power). At this time there was a silence (apparently no thoughts conveyed) and then he told Audrey that "He's telling the truth." So how did Matt know he wasn't lying? Just by the absence of thought? Or does he have a related power? Also, in episode 16 (Unexpected) Ted knew that Matt could detect lies and Matt didn't correct him. So how does he detect lies? Can't people think lies, just as they can speak them? Certainly Bennet would know Matt's powers in advance and could do that, I would think. Thoughts? GameCreator 20:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Just because we did not get to hear the thoughts that he is reading, does not mean there were not any. Like a few episodes back when he read his wife's mind and found out she was pregnant, we did not hear her think "I'm pregnant", there was just a silence and then Matt said "You're pregnant?". 192.203.136.254 14:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I think that was more of shock than anything. He did a sort of double take. --Arwen undomiel 23:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Good point. But still, what does he hear? "I'm not lying?" GameCreator 23:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Most people will think of the truth before they tell the lie. So when he said "He's not lying" meaning he read his mind and compared it to what he said... -Xornok 23:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese

In compain Man he hears Bennet thinking japanese, so does this mean he has a weakness because he can only under stand english thoughts?- red Spiderman 3/1 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.89.117 (talk) 22:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

Your title has it right - Japanese, not Chinese. To answer your question: No, this is not a weakness. I would be willing to bet that Claire doesn't know Japanese. Niki and DL probably don't. Would you list it as a weakness for them as well? Someone may find a way to circumvent his ability, but that is not the same as a weakness. Valaqil 15:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it would since he wouldn't be able to understand foriegners thoughts or some one thinking in a different languege (like bennet)- redspiderman 3/5

Okay, let's try an analogy. If I chained an anchor to Nathan's ankle that was sufficiently heavy enough, he would not be able to fly. Would that mean that he has a weakness to weights? No, that's silly. There are some things that the "Heroes" can not overcome with their abilities, but that does not make the aforementioned circumventions weaknesses. Valaqil 18:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Matt has more of a chance to talk to hear some foriegh's thought then Nathen get straped to an anchor (even though he is shown carrying others in flight) and lets say some one fom the "company" wants to think but doesn't want Parkman to know so think in another languge- redspiderman 5/14

Wait, I don't get this. Why is it a weakness if he doesn't understand another language? — hippi ippi₊₊⁺⁺ 12:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

People can use it against him, he can't under stand another languge means his power is use less- Red 4/3

Yes, but you fail to see that he can still hear their thoughts, regardless of whether he can understand them. He wouldn't be able to understand them if they spoke out loud.WorldsCollide 05:19, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Wait, these people think in a language? So what does he hear around someone who thinks in thoughts, and not in words? 219.77.134.32 15:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

better, yet what if he reaad the mind of someone who didnt speak any lagnuage at all?69.118.144.236 23:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

someone like helen keller? though i agree that it is not a weakness. he is fully capable of hearing thoughts in another language, though he is unable to interpret it. this can easily be circumvented by having an interpreter, as he demonstrated in the pilot. it doesn't diminish his power in the least. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Akuzio (talk • contribs) 07:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] more than telepathy?

After "fire years gone", i'd say that his power extends beyond telepathy as he is able to probe into people's minds and read their memories. 90.184.240.251 08:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)'

I think you mean "more than thought-reading" -- telepathy is a rather general term. 68.184.46.215 00:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I think Matt Parkman's abilities might expand, his father, Maury Parkman, has told him that his abilities will begin at mind reading and eventually he will gain more abilities. I'm pretty sure thats what he said in the last episode, maybe this should be included in the article. Wraith12 09:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Wraith12

[edit] Did Parkman knew that Sylar was Nathan?

Think about it, not only he is "evil" in the future but he doesn't seems to be very surprice when Nathan/Sylar shows them his "powers" to fight Petter, so maybe he knew beforehand that Nathan was actually Sylar 200.88.230.141 18:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't think Matt knew the president was actually Sylar. Sylar was very careful whenever he impersonated someone, too careful to become sloppy and let something slip. I have a pretty good feeling that Matt wouldn't have worked for Sylar the way he works for "Nathan" anyway. Think about it--the guy supposedly killed .07% of the world's population; I just can't see Matt working for Sylar without asking some serious questions. Besides, you can't say Matt guessed the truth just because the president appears "evil." Matt himself is a much more ruthless, cold, and calculating character in the future--he doesn't hesitate to murder in cold blood or use brute force that borders on torture and cruelty. Arwen undomiel 20:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

And you have to recall that Parkman was never shown to have seen Sylar taking off his disguise even in the finale. -- Psi edit 21:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parkman's lack of judgement?

I've noticed that Mr. Parkman has a certain lack of judgement. Many times when he reads someone's mind, he immediately responds to what they thought. This was made most obvious in Lizards (Heroes) where he read Mrs. Petrelli's mind and immediately asked her "Who might want revenge on you?" Well of course she immediately picked up on the fact that he was a mindreader and after asking for her lawyer, ordered him out of her mind.

The article says nothing about this aspect of this character's character. Any suggestions on how to incorporate this? RussNelson 02:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Killed Hana?

It says that he killed Hana in the alternate future. I thought that was Hana too (working with Bennet), but then HOW did Sylar gain her powers? If it requires him to kill her, she would be dead already, and not by Parkman's gun. It could also mean Sylar can learn powers without killing, but it seems unlikely. Can anyone verify whether that REALLY is Hana dead?60.52.121.146 07:18, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

He didn't. he had Candice's power to create illusions. Hana could talk to computers. BioYu-Gi! 18:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Age

Parkman is 38; in Fight or Flight', Matt mentions that he has not seen his father in 25 years, and also mentions (it may have been in the same episode, or the previous one) that his father left when he was 13. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.90.211 (talk) 16:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

And? asyndeton 16:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Ages are listed when known for other characters, and Parkman's age is known. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.90.211 (talk) 16:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Power

Matts and his fathers power is mind control not telepathy i will rewrite the power substory for matt and repost l8r —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homeman892003 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Take it from the Wikipedia article - "Telepathy is a common theme in fiction and science fiction, with many superheroes and supervillains, having telepathic abilities. Such abilities include both sensing the thoughts of others, and 'controlling the minds of other people'." I think that it should stay as Telepathy and not mind control. 201.1.23.29 16:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Agree. Telepathy is an all-encompassing term, covering each and every skill Parkman displays. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I cleaned up the article, but it might need more work. BioYu-Gi! (talk) 21:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Why does the Matt Parkman character page doesn't have a photo of the character. it had one before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abnermisael (talk • contribs) 14:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The image was deleted for not having any source information. Josh (talk | contribs) 15:05, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sylar07's edit of 7 Dec

I'm not sure I like Sylar07's massive edit of 7 Dec. There are spelling errors, e.g. their/there too/to. There are unreferenced opinions expressed, e.g. "Parkman is a kind and generous man." -- RussNelson (talk • contribs) 17:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion of edits

Before making any significant edits to this page, please go over to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Heroes and participate in the discussion there. People are reverting edits, even on talk pages, and while it's good to boldly edit, if your edit is reverted, it's important to discuss further edits ON THE TALK PAGE. RussNelson (talk) 20:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)