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[edit] Moving article
This article should be moved to "Educational computer and video game" as there is surely are categories of "Educational games" which do not use a computer or video game console. Anyone disagree? --Malcohol 15:58, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Surely a better approach is just to expand this page in such a way that it covers non-electronic games as well? If somebody adds so much information to the article that it looks like it needs splitting, then that would certainly be a split worth considering (though I'd be unhappy with that title, as you can't really have "one computer and video game"). But I think we're a long way off that as yet, so I'd say just let the content grow for now. - IMSoP 17:49, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- As I don't have any particular content to add myself, I accept your reasoning. Note that there's already 37 articles that link to this one and the longer it is before a split happens the more drastic any change will be. (Some of these links are due to its presence in the Video Game Genre template.)--Malcohol 13:42, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- I clarified (I hope) the introduction of the article, mentioning the article is about "regular" games as well as video games, but (at the moment) primarily deals with the latter. I think I agree with Malcohol; information about the regular kind should be added here as well, until there is enough content to split it of. Otherwise renaming the article would make sense; maybe "computer educational games" or something similar, like computer role-playing game? Of course that would mean reworking a bunch of categories, computer and video game genres, and the like. Retodon8 15:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Definition of "educational game"
There seem to be an awful lot of arbitrary German games and children's games in here, and the ones I'm familiar with don't seem any more "educational" than any other game of their type. Given that any card, board or video game has potential educational qualities, would this page be more useful if we redefined educational games as those that were specifically designed to teach people? This wouldn't leave us with very much, but it would at least be meaningful. --McGeddon 02:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
- The list that I am using when I added these games is the list that Games Quaterly put out in their latest Games and Education edition. The scope and sequence and where to apply these games in education is in there. Education and Games cover and Games QuarterlyPlus I also teach games in schools. Bcc cindy 04:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I'm not sure it's useful to simply duplicate a list of games that a single magazine has decided are "educational" - it won't be clear to future editors how to expand or edit that list, and it doesn't give much information to a casual reader (I've played a lot of these games, and don't understand why they're more educational than others). Expanding the article to include the "scope and sequence" would be good, but I assume this strays towards copyright violation if you're just lifting ideas from a magazine.
- I think this article really has to become more of an essay about the different types of educational games, supplemented with links to examples, rather than a flat list of titles. Any thoughts on how we should structure this? Dividing educational games into "pre-school", "basic literary/numeracy skills", "supporting curriculum education", "understanding historical events", "government initiatives" and other categories seems like it might be more useful than board/card/misc/video, for a start. --McGeddon 04:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I can include scope and sequence, and application information both in the magazine (which I can attribute) and my own applications with school age children. I think we would have to cross reference everything, espcially since certain games have several different applications for different grade/age levels. Though I haven't been on wikipedia long enough to know how to do this. But I think we do need to provide more information and idea generation that just a flat list of titles, just as you've stated. Bcc cindy 04:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I have added an example (see "Chomp" entry) of how we can make this a less flat list of games and more useful to parents and teachers. Bcc cindy 13:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I have re-added PlayMasterGuru, used by the public school system in NY and also by parents at home for over 100,000 elementary students. It is a PC Game, it has video, it is certainly educational and designed to help young students pass State tests. It seems to fit all the qualifications. Calling something an advertisement, to me is not enough to arbitrarily remove it, since any link is a form of advertisement. I believe an objective criteria should be established, that everyone agrees on. Thank you...68.68.234.131 16:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rationale for adding advertising tag
I added the advertising template to the article because it definitely reads like a place for those with tenuously notable educational games (other than the very popular ones such as Scrabble) to advertise their game on the World Wide Web. I think that we should have very little advertising on the page, myself. Andy Saunders 20:30, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Elementeo
I came here looking for an entry on Elementeo. Mathiastck 19:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] GH?!
The Guitar Hero series does not actually teach music. The game controller is not an actual guitar of course and you do not learn to read music. I state that it should be removed. 71.202.232.211 04:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Jramirez23
[edit] games "used in education"
some games "used in education": civilization 4(history classes) capitalism (corporate training)
this thing is good but doses not fit well in article. All games listed are used in schools. Maybe we need section with title "mainstream games with educational qualities" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.250.34.243 (talk) 19:24, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
