Talk:Chuck Taylor All-Stars

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Contents 1 Merge 2 Wording 3 Vandalism?? 4 Some reference might be made to Blackspot sneakers. 5 References 6 Contoversy 7 references in pop culture - merge section in? 8 Powerlifting 9 Trivia 10 Unsourced: Major chopping due 11 Image

[edit] Merge

As the articles are explicitly on the exact same topic and the other article had only one piece of (true) information that wasn't here, I went ahead and merged it in. Being bold, but there was absolutely no reason not to. --Switch 12:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wording

The wording about them also being available in leather now seems awkward but I don't know if I can improve it. Also, the exact year that they first became available in leather should be noted, if someone knows it.

[edit] Vandalism??

I'm new to Wikipedia contribution (though I have used it for quite a while), so I'm a little confused how adding the word "hemp" to the article is vandalism?? I'M WEARING HEMP CONVERSE RIGHT NOW. I don't even know how I got cited for it so fast. It was 30 seconds after I clicked "Save Changes."

NICE!^^ Where'd you get them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.227.135.224 (talk) 22:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some reference might be made to Blackspot sneakers.

Also, mention should be made of the fact that today's Chuck Taylor's are a Chinese knock-off of the original American-made product.

Well, not really. Nike simply purchased Converse and moved manufacturing to China and some other locations, which I believe are Taiwan and Indonesia. They're more accurately Nike knock-offs, since Nike are not a China-based company. I understand that the design did change. Makron1n 20:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

All the chucks I've owned in the past few years were made in Vietnam.

I'd just like to point out ... "made in" ... nike moved their manufacturers to china, taiwan and other such Oriental countires as labour IS CHEAPER, its still american owned, they still make them the same way, just differnt people make them.

However, im sure the "HotChilli" chucks, are cheap knock offs (15 bucks a pair instead of 70-80 sound a little suss to you?)

203.171.85.67 05:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

I added a references section, please cite references using <ref> http://url.goes.here </ref>
Also, please sign your edits with ˜˜˜˜ here on the talk page :o)
Kether83 11:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Kether, but Wikimedia screwed up your example. These examples display a little better:

• <ref>[http://google.com A search engine]</ref>

Note that "A search engine" is what will show up in the references list. You can also use something like this:

• <ref>"Citation Use Considered beneficial", [[Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania]] Daily News, page 6, August 28, 2006</ref>

when you're citing sources other than URLs.

If you use the same reference two places, you should name your references, and use

• <ref name=goog>[http://google.com A search engine]</ref>

the first occurance in the article, and

• <ref name=goog />

for all subsequent uses.

For more tips, tricks, and traps, there's Wikipedia:Footnotes ClairSamoht 13:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contoversy

Removed this section as it contained only the word "Homosexual" even prior to this, the section contained a commentary unnesessary to the article

Well, the earlier version could have been worded better and been less pov, but that is an issue. Many socially aware punks/alternative people have started wearing things like No Sweat converse knockoffs instead because of Nike purchasing the corporation. I've had my two pairs of Chucks for several years and I am not planning on buying any more because of that, and I know several others who feel the same way. If we can find sources for the criticism of Nike's ownership, either criticizing punks for wearing them, or punks criticizing Converse for now being owned by Nike, then it should be mentioned. Ungovernable Force^{Got something to say?} 04:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Mitch Clem of Nothing Nice to Say is fairly prominent in the punk scene (more specifically American pop punk, but he has a large following outside of that too). He does criticise punks for weaing Chucks, here, with this passage:

“

After all, they use child sweatshop labor in third world countries, a fact that EVERYONE IN AMERICA KNOWS, and yet they're still in business. Hell, they bought out Converse and, after maybe five minutes of all the punks being frightened that they might not be able to buy Chucks anymore, the punks just kept on buying them anyhow. Better fashionable than politically conscious, right?

”

That was written during the Major Threat controversy. -Switch ^t 15:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, since when are sections targets for scrutiny/removal just for containing the world homosexual? --Cheeser1 12:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

"Some people in Australia have taken up the idea of wearing them with skinny legs (jeans) and a striped/dotty top." I don't think that phrase really deserves a mention in this article. Plenty of people wear chucks with different outfits and just because a few australians pair them with skinny jeans and a stripy top, that doesnt mean it should be in the wiki203.109.204.166 02:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)leeni247

[edit] references in pop culture - merge section in?

There is a long list at Converse. I've proposed moving it here since it's about Chucks, not Converse in general. See Talk:Converse. --Alynna 20:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. --Alynna 22:13, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I propose removing the whole section. That someone in Saved by the bell wears All-Stars is not important enough. Garion96 (talk) 01:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Powerlifting

These shoes are universally recommended for powerlifting because of the flat sole, sturdy design, and ankle support. This could be mentioned in the article. Googling "Chuck Taylor powerlifting" brings up a lot of "sources" if anyone cares to find a few good ones to support this. 164.107.243.81 05:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

What is this trying to say: Converse All-Stars make up the bulk of the collection. Has now been added to Ripley's Believe it or Not. I couldn't figure it out enough to correct it Ruffnerr 20:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it means that All Stars are either

A) most popular shoe

or

B) The All Stars, make the majority of the Converse Apparel line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.250.211 (talk) 13:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced: Major chopping due

I see that this article has had an Unsourced tag for almost a year. I'm going to start chopping large chunks of text unless someone quickly provides some sources. If anyone has sources please provide them straight away. There is a lot of good info here, unfortunately it needs to be sourced for inclusion. Ashmoo 14:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

This one seems to be identical and of better quality. Should replace the other one?♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 02:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)