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Contents 1 Welcome to Wikipedia! 2 Sections 3 Barnstar 4 Userpage 5 Welcome 6 Rugby League WikiProject 7 Japanese cricket team 8 John Beyer 9 WCL Division Three 10 ☆ 11 World Cricket League 12 DYK 13 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can 14 Dougie Brown 15 Irish cricketers 16 Re: Darn Good Work 17 US Cricket Sandbox 18 Neil Doak 19 Neil Doak 20 Douglas Goodwin 21 Bermuda national cricket team 22 Jim Harrison (cricketer) 23 David Hemp 24 Jim Harrison 25 My mistake 26 William Hone 27 Cricket articles 28 DYK 29 DYK 30 DYK 31 Mass cricket DYKs 32 If you have time 33 Dickie Lloyd 34 DYK 35 DYK 36 Atif Malik 37 Fred Stedman 38 Pakistani women cricketers subcategories 39 Cayman Islands national cricket team 40 This damn infobox... 41 WikiProject Rugby league 42 WikiProject Rugby league 43 Chinese girls' debut 44 Professional England captains 45 New Caledonia cricket team 46 DYK: Steve Atkinson (cricketer) 47 DYK 48 2007 EAP Trophy 49 DYK 50 Scope, notability &c. 51 DYK 52 Refernce(s) 53 An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Ernest Dynes, was selected for DYK! 54 JWyatt 55 Rollback Request 56 Variations in first-class cricket statistics 57 Dwayne Leverock 58 Cricketer biog infobox 59 Tuanku Ja'afar Cup 60 An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Mohammad Shukri (cricketer), was selected for DYK! 61 Steven Cheetham 62 Discussion 63 Image:Clark.jpg 64 DYK 65 At last - a small recognition of your efforts 66 Ronald Joy DYK nomination 67 5/8 DYK 68 Eric Cole etc 69 Eric Cole 70 Cassels and Musson(s) 71 Alexander Wilkinson 72 Michael Hill (batsman) 73 Argentina 74 John Jackson 75 Argentine cricket 76 reply 77 Self ordained Professor 78 Lie Down. 79 fair enough 80 Re: 2008 ICC World Cricket League Division Five 81 Thomas Halsey (cricketer)

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

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Feel Free to Directly contact me!!! I Love helping you guys out!! After all I was new here about 3 months ago!!Eagle (talk) (desk) 22:17, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sections

Andrew, Great work on the national cricket teams. A very minor tip: we generally don't use single ='s in sections names. Use doubles or more. See Wikipedia:Section#Creation_of_sections. Regards -- Ian ≡ talk 14:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Brilliant! Absolutely Brilliant! You deserve this!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For contributing valuable articles about the lesser known national teams in cricket, I, hereby award you this Tireless Contributor Barnstar. Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 15:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage

Hi Andrew! As you have noticed your work here is much appreciated. Why dont you create your own User Page? It will let us know you better. You already seem to be quite comfortable with Wikipedia, so I guess making the page wouldnt be much of a problem. Also why dont you become a WikiProject Cricket participant?

Keep up the good work!

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 15:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Indeed, welcome, and thanks for the new pages. I take it you are working through the redlinks on International Cricket Council? When you have done all of the national teams, there are lots of governing bodies to do too ;) -- ALoan (Talk) 17:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm doing the national team pages first, then I'm going to work on pages for the various non-test tournaments I mention in the tournament histories plus one on the Austral-Asia Cup, then some work on the qualification for the 2011 World Cup (which is mainly covered by the non-test tournaments anyway). Then I'll have a look at the governing bodies :)

Very ambitious - well, good luck. (You can sign posts on talk pages with four tildes, by the way - thus ~~~~) -- ALoan (Talk) 11:28, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby League WikiProject

You may consider joining. You are doing a great job of creating cricket team pages for the weaker nations. Thanks Gizza^{Chat ©} 06:27, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese cricket team

I was waiting for someone to make that page :) But, you have made a slight oversight: Japan has qualified for the Cricket World Cup, and played a number of full One Day Internationals, although suffering some stinging defeats in the process. In a similar vein, the USA and China are probably the world's top "soccer" sides... and the world's highest individual ODI score isn't Saeed Anwar's 194, but the 229* of Belinda Clark. For reasons that I can not begin to imagine, in Japan, cricket is something of a women's game! The men's team is a long way behind in comparison. (I think the BBC covered this some time ago, but the vast majority of coverage is for men's cricket so it is hard to track it down). IIRC, the Japanese women's team is about on a par with Bangladesh; while this is hardly a signal of top class quality, the gulf between the men's team and even a lowly side like Oman or Gibraltar is pretty wide. TheGrappler 12:25, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Beyer

Please excercise due regard for references in your editing of this article, c.f. WP:LIVING. Speculative content is inappropriate here, especially so in biographies. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 23:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WCL Division Three

Hey, just a question; how did you come to know the Division Three event is supposed to be held in the United States? Sam Vimes | Address me 14:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ☆

A WP:CRIC barnstar for your sterling efforts on filling the redlinks on List of International Cricket Council members and working towards a completed {{National cricket teams}}. Keep up the good work! -- ALoan (Talk) 21:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] World Cricket League

I'd argue that we don't need articles for each individual division - everything that can be said about those divisions could, I think be merged into the main article (which is rather short if you take out the teams, which one should do when treating the tournament). So I'd like to move the current articles ICC World Cricket League Division One and Division Two to 2007 ICC World Cricket League Division One, as each individual tournament should be treated separately. Sam Vimes | Address me 13:11, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey I was just wondering, would it be a good idea to move the current world cricket league article to something like 2007-2011 World Cricket League? I say this because the information there right now is pretty specific about the current one and not in general. So would it be a good idea to move it and then make a general article about the world cricket league?--THUGCHILDz 02:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 20 September 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Slovenian cricket team, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Magnificent work! Thanks! --Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 18:59, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Well done, but your thanks are mis-directed, I am afraid - it wasn't me who nominated it, but rather Johnlp (see this diff). -- ALoan (Talk) 09:49, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

My mistake, I'm getting myself confused! Andrew nixon 10:35, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

The thanks are all due to you: I think the work you've been doing on these unsung bits of the cricket project is first rate. And I just thought the Slovenian story was too good not to be shared. Well done. Johnlp 09:42, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] Dougie Brown

Thank you for reviewing the situation as per Dougie Brown. I knew I was being a tad bold in adding the category, but since it was removed, I suppose there's no harm done. Bobo. 23:18, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Irish cricketers

Hi, Andrew. Further to your entry on the Project Cricket talk page, I'm not sure if I can commit to an concerted joint effort towards the expansion of Irish first-class cricketers, but I'll do my level best. I plan to expand (and where necessary, create) articles relating to major figures in the history of the Irish game, some historical, some contemporary. I shall certainly ensure that all recent Irish internationals are included. I just completed an expansion of your excellent Lucius Gwynn article, maybe we can work out a more concrete basis for co-operation in the near future.

Keep up the good work on associate and affiliate nations! DublinDilettante 03:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for creating a page about Ham Lambert, a man I knew well and admired greatly. I have added to and somewhat altered it to include information about his life outside of sport, plus a little more about his sporting activities outside of cricket. Abbeyvet 00:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Darn Good Work

You Wrote: Just congratulating you on your work on Bart King. I'm a fan of King's and it is good to see him get such a comprehensive write up. I plan on getting articles up on all first-class cricketers from Philadelphia's cricketing golden age by the end of the year and any help you can provide would be much appreciated! I created the Philadelphian cricket team and Christie Morris articles, so any help you can give on them would also be appreciated. Keep up the good work! Andrew nixon 15:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll start with King and try to get that at least to GA or A and then try moving onto the others. I'm still new to Cricket, so I may move a bit slow. Thanks for the encouragement.--Eva ^bd 19:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the new infobox, as well. Great work!--Eva ^bd 19:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] US Cricket Sandbox

You Wrote: I've just made a slight edit on the US cricket sandbox. Whilst the games in 1913 were the last in the USA until 2004, games were played on US soil in the interim, in the US Virgin Islands which are part of the West Indies for cricket purposes. Don't get me started on which national side players born there are eligible for! Andrew nixon 08:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I did not realize that the USVI were considered part of the West Indies for cricket purposes. Are there any current players from the USVI on the Windies team. I can understand that they'd rather play for the West Indies if they have a choice between them and our block-headed administration. Thanks again.--Eva ^bd 14:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neil Doak

Hi Andrew. Do feel free to put your hat in to the ring at T:DYKT. Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neil Doak

On 10 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Neil Doak, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 22:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Douglas Goodwin

On 15 April 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Douglas Goodwin, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 17:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

On April 23, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Robert Gregory, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks again Andrew, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bermuda national cricket team

Hey. I'm having trouble tracking down any future fixtures for the Bermudians, and noticed you added this paragraph - wondering where you found this out at? Thanks. AllynJ 13:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks. On a follow up note: did you update the stats in the infobox? I couldn't find any stats for First Class/List A cricket anywhere, only for ODIs. Thanks again. :) AllynJ 16:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

You're a star. AllynJ 17:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello To refer to your message I acedentially rated it as a stub it was meant to be start instead sorry. If you believe it to be higher then by all means. I am about to change but if you believe it be higher then by all means change it as I am still learning the ropes with assessing articles 02blythed 18:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Harrison (cricketer)

Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, Jim Harrison (cricketer), for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the "hook" for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on May 7 where you can improve it if you see fit. Regards, howcheng {chat} 21:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] David Hemp

Sorry, just got slightly cheesed off when that and about a dozen similar edits were all reverted within hours. The only real way to stop banned editors editing is to revert their edits, as they realise that every time their accounts are identified their edits are reverted. Dealing with this particular editor I've even seen over a dozen articles he created deleted, for the exact same reason. It's got nothing to do with the merits of their edits, they are reverted or deleted without prejudice. I've no real objection if you wanted to re-do the edit, bearing in mind that if you see similar edits in future that the reversions have been done for a reason. Thanks. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 11:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Harrison

On 12 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jim Harrison, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Wizardman 15:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My mistake

I'm sorry. The other articles I've seen of the same type had a box on the right-hand that looked much like that of Simon_Curley's article. I was under the impression this fell under the "section layout" catagory of wikification. Streetsabre 21:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Would it be against wikipedia guidelines for me to remove the wikify box then? I'm sorry I didn't understand the context of that particular box. Streetsabre 22:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] William Hone

On 15 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William Hone (cricketer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Wizardman 04:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cricket articles

Hi there, I noticed you created articles like Sierra Leone national cricket team. Could you please use the national stub (i.e. SierraLeone-stub) as well as a category, i.e. Cat:Sport in Sierra Leone? Thanks--Thomas.macmillan 15:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 17 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Scott Huey, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 15:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 25 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Eddie Ingram, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 29 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Women's European Cricket Championship, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 00:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

On May 29, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sajjida Shah, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks again Andrew. An interesting article on a remarkable young lady. Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 06:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

On May 30, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Isobel Joyce, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Hi Andrew. Maybe we can have multiple cricket articles per day without people complaining....Our transatlantic friends haven't complained yet. Do you take a camera with you to work and take cricket pictures? :) Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 02:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

On June 4, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Leslie Kidd, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks again Andrew. Keep it up. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:44, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mass cricket DYKs

Hi Andrew, due to the restrictions on DYK, I don't think you should release all your DYKs in a group on one day, otherwise, we would not be able to fit them all, due to having to have a mix of things on the main page. I had to do the same thing...User:Blnguyen/Cricket organising I am keeping them on my hard drive and releasing them gradually. Unless ALoan and other people will guard T:DYK/N all day long. Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:05, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Heh :) Even I would baulk at more than a couple in one update. But one in each update ought to be fine :) -- ALoan (Talk) 13:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I did not realise I will be more careful from now one 02blythed 11:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] If you have time

Please view and vote on the Deletion review here. Thank you for covering for me with the source information. Bobo. 16:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dickie Lloyd

Hi Andrew. You are off to such a great start on the article Dickie Lloyd that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. Appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 4 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dickie Lloyd, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 19:13, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 18 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ian Pont, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 22:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

On 23 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Jackson (Somerset cricketer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--JayHenry 15:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Atif Malik

Nice article there on a Belgian cricketer. I don't know if you have ever visited, but my sandbox contains a list of Belgian cricketers going back at least to 2001 and possibly earlier, I can't recall. If you wanna stop by and have a look, that'd be cool. Bobo. 19:03, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fred Stedman

With your work on Irish cricketers, you might be interested to know that I've just done an article on Fred Stedman. I came to it from the Surrey "end", and hadn't realised that there was an Irish connection till I wrote the article. If you'd like to expand the bit on his time in Ireland, then please feel free. JH (talk page) 19:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pakistani women cricketers subcategories

Category:Pakistani women's ODI cricketers and Category:Pakistani women's Test cricketers, which you created, have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to participate in the discussion here. — Black Falcon ^(Talk) 06:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cayman Islands national cricket team

I think the page needs a records table (something like Kenya cricket team#Records would be sufficient). A would a proper squad table would also be nice, look at England cricket team to see what I mean (I don't expect you to find the domestic teams tho!). The table is not needed to become B-class but would be very helpful. Taking myself as an example I don't know any Cayman players so I wouldn't know who the bowlers/batsman are. Added later: They haven't played a game?! If that's true no need for a record section just add the table then. Monsta666 20:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

That was fast! Good job, have given it a B-ranking as I don't have the authority to rate it any higher. Monsta666 21:00, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This damn infobox...

Hi Andrew,

I'm going to take a look at these columns again - would it be possible for you to give me a couple of examples of players in which you'd find other columns/headers useful? Just so I know what I'm aiming towards.

Thanks, –MDCollins (talk) 10:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at the Trent Johnson example here that sort of thing what you'd like? (Yes I'm aware that the Irish don't use the flag of Ireland, but that's a limitation I can't think about right now!}.–MDCollins (talk) 14:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry: here. Unfortunately the flag is generated by a [[Flag of {{{country}}}.svg]] function. Give me a moment and I'll work that out too. Are there other countries with a similar set up? West Indies maybe? –MDCollins (talk) 14:21, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Done. Wasn't too bad, very easy to add others if they come up. As for {{{country}}} cricket team - I think I've got ahead of you there. Certainly all of the main Test/ODI/ and a few others now have redirects in place, because I've done them (!). Its far easier to create a simple redirect than to try and code all of those varieties as and when they come up. I'm not going through all of the affiliates! –MDCollins (talk) 14:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Rugby league

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[edit] WikiProject Rugby league

		WikiProject Rugby league (State of Origin task force)
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[edit] Chinese girls' debut

pls see this. --- koyn 08:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Professional England captains

I was interested to note your comment on WT:CRIC about the early tours being fully professional. Our Len Hutton article currently says:

He was appointed as England's first professional captain in 1952.

Should that therefore be changed? I don't know enough about those early tours to be confident in doing it myself. Loganberry (Talk) 14:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I thought it might be a case of semantics. I'll leave it as it is for now, but if you or someone else rewords it then I'll have no objections. Loganberry (Talk) 22:41, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Caledonia cricket team

On 18 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article New Caledonia cricket team, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 17:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK: Steve Atkinson (cricketer)

On 25 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Steve Atkinson (cricketer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Mgm|^(talk) 09:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 22 November 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Malaya cricket team, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:06, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

On 28 November 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Northern Ireland national cricket team, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 22:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 EAP Trophy

Hi Andrew.

I just wanted to let you know that I have updated the page for the 2007 ICC EAP Trophy tournament which starts in Auckland tomorrow.

I thought I'd let you know, just in case you wanted to mention this tournament on your Beyond the Boundary website.

Cheers! Dave of Darwin 09:42, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Just saw Cricket Europe - looks like you were on to it already :-) Dave of Darwin 12:19, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On December 9, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Edward Barrett (cricketer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

[edit] Scope, notability &c.

Hello there. Thanks for your message. I don't believe they are substantial changes.

I have simply clarified things because the existing criteria were woolly. Why go to all the trouble of saying this is notable and that is notable and Uncle Tom Cobley and all are notable when all that is needed is a simple statement that all major cricket matches are notable (and then make clear what a major cricket match is). The only exception is the ICC Trophy which does need an explanation (as in fact does anything concerned with associate members).

The scope section was very poorly expressed and completely missed the essential points that the project must create and maintain articles about all people and subjects that are notable in cricketing terms; and the project must maintain an efficient and navigable category system. These are the basics. We have got to put an article about every notable subject onto the site and we have got to make all articles accessible for the readers. Having a scope that goes straight into featured articles or whatever is not only cart before the horse but cart with no horse at all and completely unrealistic.

I am not saying anything different. I am simply expressing it in a more understandable way for the benefit of readers and new starters. As for any quibbles, be bold and give them a tweak.

Best wishes. --The Ghost | ^séance 19:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

The definition (description, really) of major cricket takes into account the views expressed by numerous historians who recognise the importance of single wicket, while it is clear that ListA limited overs cricket is generally considered major. This is as close to a consensus as there can ever be and I have not found any historian whose views are radically different.

I don't believe single wicket poses any problems because everyone who took part in its great contests achieved notability in the 11-a-side version too. WP already has a full set of articles about those players (e.g., Colchin, Dingate, Waymark), although we could still add much about single wicket to articles about 19th century players like Mynn and Felix.

CricketArchive's matchlist is the definitive one for verification purposes. Note that it includes much that the ACS list does not. For 18th century matches, CA uses a major and minor classification. The major matches are just that.

The whole point of this notability exercise is that "first-class" is a completely unreliable vehicle for use as a notability guideline. If you doubted that someone like Robert Colchin was a notable player, there are plenty of respected historical sources that provide the necessary verification, per the article. The ACS matchlist is their opinion only and the matchlists produced by Ashley-Cooper, Frindall, Webber, etc. are equally valid. So, if I chose to write an article about a player who was first-class according to Roy Webber only, I could rightly use Webber for verification. It is like boxing: no one knows who the real champion is because each title has so many different versions. --The Ghost | ^séance 07:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 25 December 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cyril Reed, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 13:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Refernce(s)

Sorry if I missed your previous query. There are a number of reasons. (And of course there are a number of reasons that the singular is good too.) Wikipedia:External links is the guideline, and the main reason is style. We use plural for both "External Links" and "References" (and I guess "Notes") in the same way that books have a "Contents" page even if there's only one chapter. Subsidiary reasons include that people often add links without updating the headings, and consistency. If you trawl through the talk page you'll see the various arguments come up on either side. Rich Farmbrough, 21:34 30 December 2007 (GMT).

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Ernest Dynes, was selected for DYK!

On January 1, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ernest Dynes, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 02:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] JWyatt

Thank you, Andrew. Much appreciated. Very best wishes for 2008. --The Ghost | ^séance 09:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback Request

I am pleased to confirm I have fullfilled your request for rollback. Best Wishes. Pedro :  Chat  09:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Variations in first-class cricket statistics

Thanks for pointing out the 1878 match. I must admit I thought myself that the Aussies played only minor matches on that tour (like the earlier English teams had done). I altered the match link and I decided to remove the bit about discontinuing in 1913 (in any case, the point of the paragraph is when it started). Best wishes. --The Ghost | ^séance 07:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dwayne Leverock

Why on Earth have my edits been deleted. There are no lies involved at all!!! Reply back from Dwayno99

[edit] Cricketer biog infobox

Hi,

I've implemented your suggestion regarding one-test-wonders, or one-List A-wonders etc. You can now use the added field 'onetest = true' (or oneodi and onetype1, onetype2 for the domestic players.

Hope it works to your liking! –MDCollins (talk) 10:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tuanku Ja'afar Cup

On 11 January 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tuanku Ja'afar Cup, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 05:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Mohammad Shukri (cricketer), was selected for DYK!

On January 16, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mohammad Shukri (cricketer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 16:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Steven Cheetham

I have responded to your query on the Wikiproject talk page. Bobo. 14:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

What am i going to discuss about, I just provided with references to the fact/citation needed marks. And after the ref's a provided you just revert it back? I don't get it.--THUGCHILDz 00:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Clark.jpg

Can you do me a favor and add what Image:Clark.jpg is supposed to be? I am trying to figure out whether it would be better to keep that one or the newer image from User:Token1. Thanks! -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

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--Cirt (talk) 18:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] At last - a small recognition of your efforts

		The 25 DYK Medal
		Congratulations! Here's a medal for you in appreciation of your hardwork in creating, expanding and nominating 25+ articles for DYK. Keep up the good work, Andrew, there are more notable cricket articles! --Victuallers (talk) 16:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ronald Joy DYK nomination

I see you have a ton of DYK's. I just wanted to say that I nominated Ronald Joy for DYK. I hope you don't mind, but I felt that it met DYK's criteria. But even if I nominated it, it's still your DYK.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 15:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 5/8 DYK

On 8 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ronald Joy, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford 18:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eric Cole etc

The London Gazette is the place to look. All commissions and promotions in the British Armed Forces are routinely published there, as are awards of honours and decorations. Search page is here The indexing can be a bit dodgy due to the OCR process used for the old issues, and there's no particular consistency on how names are entered, so to find as much as possible you need to search on fullnames, first name, middle initial and surname, all initials + surname from the late 30s entries for Army and RAF officers also include their service number, so if you can find that from one fo the initial searches, it's worth searching on that too. Depending on when they served, and in which service, there may be info in the documents online section of The National Archives website too, that usually requires a fee to view, unless you happen to be on the Kew site for some reason. I've also brought him to attention at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Eric Cole because the folks there may also be able to find some more sources. David Underdown (talk) 17:19, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Happy to help out a fellow Red Rose supporter in exile. When I did a search in the Times digital archive, one of the things it turned up was a scorecard for a Sandhurst v Staff College, which predates any of the current info on his cricket career, don't know if it's worth adding? I should be able to find the article again. I'd imagine he played at school as well, but there's no verifiable source for that. David Underdown (talk) 15:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

In terms of dyk, the hook you originally proposed has the most readily verifiable cites, and is quite fun anyway. Other than the London Gazette stuff, which is freely accessible (OK you need Acrobat, but most people should have that), but is mostly fairly dry factual stuff. The more interesting stuff needs subscription/fee etc., so I think we're better off sticking with your original one, though I have suggested at least sticking major-General in front of his name if that doesn't take us over the character limit. David Underdown (talk) 09:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

haven't had time to look at Wilkinson yet, but I have just discovered that Melsome was a POW in WWII and was subsequently awarded the MBE for his work on escape committees in the camps where he was held, and managing to contact the War Office from the camps and provide secret info! David Underdown (talk) 08:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I've had a bit of a look at Wilkinson now, though I haven't really got started on the article proeprly yet. It's not surprising he got shot in the hand, he seems to have had no regard at all for his own personal safety, this is the citation for the bar to his MC London Gazette: (Supplement) no. 30466, page 652, 8 January 1918. Retrieved on 2008-05-19., I haven't found the full details of his original MC, but the GM (going into a minefield to rescue one of his men) and DSO (wandering across a bridge at Monte Cassino under mortar and artillery fire to set up a smokescreen after the subordinates who were supposed to be doing it were killed) show similar traits!

Wilkinson done now. David Underdown (talk) 15:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eric Cole

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--BorgQueen (talk) 04:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cassels and Musson(s)

First thing that I've found out about Cassels is that he seems to have been generally known as Jim, and didn't really use his first name at all, this [1] is a very good general biography, and assuming you are a member of your local library, you should have online access (and if not, it's worth joining jsut for the online sources it gives you these days). Neither Musson has an ODNB entry though, so I'd hav eto fall back on newspaper searches etc for that anyway. I don't know how much time I'll have in teh immediate future, so it might be better if you do start them off, as at least I'll have all the dates and so on, which helps narrow searches down. David Underdown (talk) 20:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alexander Wilkinson

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--well done Victuallers (talk) 22:29, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Hill (batsman)

Replied at my page in order to keep the conversation intact. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Argentina

The national side in a country such as Argentina is surely a function of the domestic situation. Please refrain from taking such arbritary decisions. You seem to have reverted a fair number of other people's edits. It would surely be better to edit the edit. After all I responded to a suggestion in the discussion.Fieldgoalunit (talk) 18:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] John Jackson

This player was not Chilean. He was born in Chile and played for a team called Chile but one composed entirely of ex-patriots involved in the business community. it had no jurisdiction to be called Chile I suppose, there was no real cricket Association. He was a British Ciitzen all his life - refer to ACS which has the late Phillip Thorn's notes. Only after WWII did Arg/Chilean cricketers, whether Anglo-Argentine or other, take nationality. I believe under Peron they had too. I would change this but I'm Afraid I don't know how to remove the image. By the same token FR Brown was not Peruvian. CH Gibson, I think I'm correct, never relinquished UK nationality. RM Poore played for South Africa but he was not South African. He was based there in the army. A decision was taken in about 1927 that ex-pats would not play for India. Some lived there 30 years and played for all-India teams(of a sort). Dipak Patel however took NZ nationality( a requirement). If the Jackson principle is applied to Rugby(either code) chaos will reign - Tuingamala, Viakona, MK Elgie, HG Vivian, Henry Paul and all those Samoans. Stuart Law? An Australian Test Cricketer who took UK Nationality in later life I think. See what I mean. very few ex-pats up to WWII would ever have refered to themselves as anything other than British. This subject is well covered in this current rash of books on the end of empire and Britain in the 50's such as Kynaston and Hennessy. 19:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Argentine cricket

Do you know anything about this subject?Fieldgoalunit (talk) 23:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] reply

from the article you wrote I would dispute that. Have you read Bridger's book or just taken the scores from ca. the latter. have you read the cricketer from between the wars to get a handle on this - no. Do not revert the article without seeking arbitration. It seems from your history you do this a lot and cause annoyance. I would describe your remark as ill-informed. I refer back to the national team. Incidentally do you understand the point I was making about JAS Jackson. the Argentine team of the 20's -30's was a team rather than a national team. Whgen Hong Kong entered the ICC trophy there was a lot of huffing about there team which was essentially a multi-national team of ex-pats. Please try to address isues.Fieldgoalunit (talk) 23:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Self ordained Professor

Your reply reveals the staggering ignorance of people like yourself who think they can look at cricketarchive and write encyclopaedic articles that other people might like to use as a reference. The article you wrote was frankly feeble and was cited by the great WP as such. It is people like you Andrew who render the WP project risible and why the students who attend my University(Keele) are forbidden to use it as a reference. Your responses simply outline why this is the case. Have a Barnstar and read a proper book instead of cricketarchive. Oh and put in one of your user boxes one for ignorance of academic standards.Fieldgoalunit (talk) 23:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lie Down.

Have a lie down and some one will pick your toys up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fieldgoalunit (talk • contribs) 00:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] fair enough

ApologiesFieldgoalunit (talk) 00:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: 2008 ICC World Cricket League Division Five

Hi Andrew - I've reversed your removal of my comments about the teams finishing towards the bottom of Div 5 forming part of the new Divisions 6 to 8. It is not mere "speculation" - and I have provided a citation in support of these comments from the CricketEurope site... written by you, no less! To quote that article: "WCL Division Seven: Six teams to be determined according to results in 2008 Division Five and recent regional tournaments. WCL Division Six: Four teams to be determined according to results in 2008 Division Five and recent regional tournaments, 1st and 2nd from 2009 Division Seven". If that doesn't indicate that several of the teams in this year's Division Five are not expected to form part of Divisions 6 and 7, your original article needed better wording. Grutness...wha? 10:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

You seem to misunderstand what I wrote on that page. If I had written that those teams would make up divisions 6-8, it would have been speculation. I did not - I wrote that it is likely they will - something you admitted yourself was a fact in your comment on my talkpage when you wrote: "it is likely that all eight teams will be in Divisions Six through Eight". You even mention that that was confirmed by someone from the ICC. As such, I made no speculation on the article, but rather gave the stone cold incontrovertible facts as they stand - i.e., that these teams are considered likely to be among those in the new divisions. There is nothing speculative about that comment at all, and it belongs in the article. Grutness...wha? 10:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

S'alright - glad someone's keeping a watch on the ICC articles! :) Grutness...wha? 10:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Halsey (cricketer)

Thomas Halsey (cricketer) = Sir Thomas Edgar Halsey, 3rd Baronet... agree? Talk:Thomas Halsey (cricketer). Cheers. Bazj (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)