User talk:Wantok

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Archive of my old Mattandrews account talk page: May 2006 to July 2007.

[edit] REUR TPI login change notice

Thanks for the heads up, Wantok. And, if you don't mind my asking, what's the 'cross-project login feature'? K. Kellogg-Smith 00:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

A Wikimedia feature under development - enabling a single login across all Wikimedia projects. See single login specifications. You might want to register your user name on other Wikimedia projects you're interested in, just in case, to avoid conflicts later on. Wantok 04:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, will certainly look into it. I've got fifteen Wiki icons for different wikis up on my desktop, always finding myself checking to see if I've logged myself in before doing anything on/with the Wiki.

On another subject: application of the word wontok. My guess from contexts that I've read is that the word can be used not only to refer to native-born Melanesians, but also to any class of non-native born folks as well. For example, a Melanesian could call someone (not necessarily a close friend) who is a foreign expatriate currently living and/or working in Melanesia, or who has previously lived and/or worked in Melanesia, a "wontok", no? I've been wondering if wontok is similar in a sense to the Hawaiian word kama'aina, or "native-born or long term resident". Is wontok used in the senses of (1) referring to a personal friend, or calling a personal friend wontok in face-to-face conversations, (2) a reference to one or more Melanesians in general, and/or (3) referring to any foreigner who is "a friend of the country", such as NGO aid workers, scientists, scholars, etc.? K. Kellogg-Smith 17:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, firstly, it's wantok - literally "a person who speaks my language". Wontok is a transliteration of how most expatriates (incorrectly) pronounce it. And "person who speaks my language" is the core meaning of the word - the implication being that the person is from the speaker's local area: the same village or a nearby village. It has more recently acquired a more general sense of "from the same place", even meaning "someone who has lived in PNG", at times, or even "friend" (a bit like the English "mate"), but that's usually in a genial or joking sense - really its correct use is in the original sense - one who speaks the same (local, indigenous) language. Wantok 02:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I guess the word Wantok comes from tribal divisions. Sometimes a group of expatriates can consider themselves another tribal divide, and refer to each other this way, I guess.. Aliasd 23:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] betawiki

You are now a translator on betawiki. --81.15.51.66 16:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help needed

Hi Wantok,

I need your help.

Can you please help me translate this article into the unique and honourable Tok Pisin? Please! Please! Please!

(Because the article was not written properly before)

Any help at all would be very much Appreciated. Thankyou. --Jose77 06:07, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cheers, Wantok 06:28, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Sori Tru! I was asked this on English WIkipedia, and didn't have the time. Cheers Wantok, and sorry Jose Aliasd 07:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

THANKYOU SO MUCH Wantok for your Excellent Translation Effort!

Your help is very Gratefully Appreciated.

May God bless you and may the Tok Pisin language edition of Wikipedia Prosper!

In the future, if you ever need any articles to be translated into the Chinese language, then I would be glad to help you or User:Aliasd.

Yours Sincerely, From --Jose77 07:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion tags

Thankyou so much for removing all those tags today! I hadn't browsed much recently and spotted them, otherwise I would have done it. It must be so disheartening for a new user that creates a valid stub to have their work marked for deletion so flippantly :( I mean, did that guy really believe that all articles would start as good articles? Aliasd 07:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Plenty more cleanup to be done around here :) Wantok 07:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation Request

Greetings Wantok,

Can you kindly help me one more time by translating these passages into Tok pisin? Please.

"Salvation is given by the grace of God through faith. Believers must rely on the Holy Spirit to pursue holiness, to honour God, and to love humanity".

"The Lord's Second Coming will take place on the Last Day when He descends from heaven to judge the world: the righteous will receive eternal life, while the wicked will be eternally condemned".

"Jesus Christ, the Word who became flesh, died on the cross for the redemption of sinners, resurrected on the third day and ascended to heaven. He is the only Saviour of mankind, the Creator of the heavens and earth, and the only true God".

"The Holy Bible, consisting of the Old and New Testaments, is inspired by God, the only scriptural truth, and the standard for Christian living".

Any help at all would be Appreciated very much. (A quick rough translation would be fine to me.)

Regards, --Jose77 08:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

I have updated the discussion Here. --Jose77 09:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gratitude

Thankyou very very much Wantok and Aliasd for your Briliant translation help, time and effort!

I am very very Grateful.

There are no more articles which need to be translated into the Tok pisin.

May God Bless you and may you Prosper!

(If any of you two ever need any articles to be translated into the Chinese or Taiwanese language, then I would be glad to help you).

Yours Sincerely, From --Jose77 05:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wok

Man! you have been BUSY!! Congrats on all the good work, just don't burn yourself out :) Aliasd 09:39, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Eh, I just can't stand the dire state these articles are / were in. Plenty more to do ... :) Wantok 09:42, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pes

Tankyou tru yu alrietim pes bilong mi. Mi save liklik Pisin tasol. 203.214.48.215 11:52, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Jeneme

Thank you very much. I don't speak this language and I wanna help in this wiki. I have think a lot of things to do here. If you wanna, we can do a list of countries, and I'll insert all the photos, interwikis and categories (I'm very sorry, but I don't speak anything of this language yet, so you must to do the article, ;). Please, tell me what you thing about this. Thanks for your time. --Jeneme 06:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for your help. I'll put in all the countries the same table that in Kanada.

.What do you think abaout doing a template like this?

Please, can you correct the table on Saina? After that, I'll could do all the table's 'cause they're the same (Sorry, my English is very bad).--Jeneme 10:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want, I'll say you all the articles I'm putting a template and then, you'll can correct it. What do you thing? --Jeneme 13:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I have problems for insert a table in Yunaitet Kingdom. --Jeneme 08:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Is there any template aboues in this Wiki? --Jeneme 08:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. I've got a problem. What's the diference between long and bilong? --Jeneme 18:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re your welcome and RfA process notes at my talk page

Thanks for the welcome but I probably won't spend too much time here. I've never encountered the language outside this wiki and don't anticipate encountering it IRL in the future. Might do some blatant spam/vandal fighting if I see it though. I originally created an acct just to comment on the discussion re K. Kellogg-Smith's actions but it ended up becoming a moot point before I finished writing the comment. (might have been a browser crash in there too :-/) Cheers --Jeremyb 13:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Yurop

Hi! I have done this template. I wanna do another one with Spanish provinces and US states. Can I put the name of the provinces in Spanish or I'll have to translated from English? Or I can put a redirection page between Spanish and English pages. What do you thing? --Jeneme 15:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

Hi! I have done new language templates. Dou you thing are well? What can I do respect European countries? We've got only stubs about countries? Is there any long article? --Jeneme 16:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

The longest geography articles are Papua Niugini and Yurop. Aliasd 22:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Special:Longpages might be of interest to you. Aliasd 22:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gran Teft Oto (siris)

May you please translate the article to Tok Pisin!!! (bai Larabci User 04:50, Septemba 30, 2007 (UTC))

[edit] These articles

May you please translate these articles (Mun, Templet:Infobokis Mun, Templet:Infobokis Graun, Kala, Planet na 2007) to Tok Pisin!!! (bai Larabci User 2008 June 15:27 24)

[edit] Koat bilong ams bilong Papua Niugini, Papua Niugini, Wikipedia na Ensaiklopedia

May you please translate these articles (Koat bilong ams bilong Papua Niugini, Papua Niugini, Templet:Infobokis Graun, Wikipedia na Ensaiklopedia) to Tok Pisin!!! (bai Larabci User 2008 June 15:27 24)

[edit] Aprika na Kontinen.

May you please translate these articles (Aprika na Kontinen) to Tok Pisin!!! (bai Larabci User 2008 June 15:27 24)

[edit] Translate information on yia!!!

May you please translate this article to Tok Pisin!!! (bai Larabci User 2008 June 15:27 24)

[edit] Heya

Could you delete "Cover_page_(prototype_A.1)" on tpi wiktionary? Aliasd 01:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, that page was a personal experiment and is not pertinent to current mainspace of the Tok Pisin Wiktionary; I've deleted it from the tpiwikt mainspace, as the user now has a copy in his userspace here on the Tok Pisin Wikipedia. Not to say it would never be pertinent to tpiwikt, but it's certainly not appropriate for mainspace given the current state of the project. Cheers, Wantok (toktok) 06:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expired

Hi, Wantok,

I removed your rights here, as they expired. Thanks for the understanding. m:user:Effeietsanders 13:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Atikel tantok!!!

May you please translate this atikel to Tok Pisin!!! (by Yusa) (23:15, Oktoba 6 2007 (UTC))

[edit] nomination

I have nominated you for Administrator. Please accept or decline the nomination and publish it to the RfA page. Thankyou, and good luck! Aliasd 23:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - did that a few days ago and added it to the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship page. Support/oppose !voting closes on 30 October. Wantok (toktok) 00:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I think we should extend this another couple weeks to get some community input. Aliasd 04:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Sure, makes sense. Wantok (toktok) 05:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Extended to 14 November. Hopefully we'll get more responses from other users by then. Wantok (toktok) 23:01, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Almazán

Hi! Can you translate this text onto To Pisin?

Almazán is a municipality located in the province of Soria, Castile and León, Spain.

Thanks. --Jeneme 16:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Sure - here is the translation:

Almazán emi wanpela taun long Soria provins, Castile na León, Spen.

Cheers, Wantok (toktok) 01:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you translate this table onto Tok Pisin (it's for all the villages and cities).

{{Localidat España Places in Spain
|nombre = name
|de = of
|nombre_ofizial = official name
|bandera = flag
|escudo = shield
|imachen = image
|comunidat = Autonomous Community
|probinzia = province
|redolada = shire, county
|monezipio = municipality
|cp = postal code
|superfizie = area
|altaria = altitude
|poblazión = population
|calendata = date
|chentilizio = Demonym
|ríos = rivers
|web = web site
|situazión = location
}

Thanks for your help. --Jeneme 14:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Sure - here you go:

{{Localidat España Peles bilong Spen
|nombre = nem
|de = bilong
|nombre_ofizial = ofisel nem
|bandera = plak
|escudo = mak
|imachen = piksa
|comunidat = (no direct translation - i suggest use "comunidat")
|probinzia = provins
|redolada = (no direct translation - i suggest use "redolada")
|monezipio = taun
|cp = kod bilong pas
|superfizie = hekte
|altaria = antap (arguably)
|poblazión = manmeri
|calendata = yia (I assume this is for year-established)
|chentilizio = (demonym is not used in Tok Pisin)
|ríos = ol wara
|web = web
|situazión = hap
}

We might look at converting this into a general infobox for towns anywhere in the world later. Cheers, Wantok (toktok) 00:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help request :)

My dear friend Wantok, I need your help. Can you please help me translate a shorter-stub version of this article into the unique and honourable Tok Pisin? Please! :)