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Table o contents 1 Archive 2 OUTRAGED 3 Conditional approval! 4 Blythe Burn's Nicht tae yous! 5 Kintra Infobox 6 Ither lesser-uised leids o Europe 7 Multilingual coordination 8 The Metro 9 Article Requests etc 10 Please pick historic talk from Inkubator 11 Happy Easter 12 University

[edit] Archive

A'v archived this collogue page. Tak a keek here fer aw the auld talk. OchAyeTheNoo 16:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

For those of us "south of the Watford Gap" can links to the relevant "southern English" pages be included. -- Anon (who didn't sign)

I'm not quite sure what you mean. We do generally link articles to other languages including English using the [[en:]] links. Some pages may have been missed but you can add them yourself quite easily. If this isn't what you're talking about, could you explain further so that we can decide whether what you want is possible ? -- Derek Ross | News 01:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] OUTRAGED

I AM OUTRAGED AT WIKIPEDIA!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD PUT UP A DEROGATORY WEBSITE AGAINST SCOTTISH PEOPLE LIKE ME! I URGE EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH WIKIPEDIA TO TAKE DOWN THIS WIKI AND NO ONE TO EVER POST ANY MORE CONTENT ON IT!
—69.151.248.175 02:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, <grin>. -- Derek Ross | News 19:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Aye, neist they'll dae ane in French, and then whaur wull we be? It's PC gaun mad... Bazza 11:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

A'v ne'er unnerstuid ootrage aboot Scots projects like this Wikipedia. Thinkin the hail thing's stupit an a waste o time is ae thing, A'll no begrudge fowk an opeenion aboot thon, but actively wastin emotional energy on gettin angry aboot it? Dinna see why a body'd fash thairsels aboot that tae be honest. (A unnerstaund oor contreebutor abuin thinks he's bein satirical but A'v seen ither fowk get angry aboot Scots afore.) Mendor 17:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

People get angry. Mendor, because they are threatened by it. BryanAJParry

Ah mind a body writin tae the Scotsman juist efter Gaelic telly stertit, complainin at they'd hud tae sit throu fower hoors ae Gaelic telly, an hou naebody spiks the Gaelic ony mair. Gin ye dinna spik Gaelic, dinnae watch fower hoors ae it! Numpties. Bazza 09:25, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Aye, aw the airticles on this Wikipaedia ar against the Scots. We juist spik it aw the time but we hate it really... [rolls eyes] OchAyeTheNoo 21:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

YOU DON'T GET IT! I AM OFFENDED BY THE CONTENT ON THIS WIKI! PLEASE REMOVE IT!!!

—69.151.248.175 18:36, 9 Dizember 2007 (UTC)

No, we get it. Feel free to read other parts of the internet that are solely in English. There's quite a lot of it. Come back when you've finished that off, and we'll talk. Bazza 09:27, 10 Dizember 2007 (UTC)

Is this the real Scots language or are you just putting a sort of traditional highlander accent on and spelling words as they sound...I mean is there a dictionary or something which can prove these words are real?

OK fair cop! Its one huge highland joke. Something to do during the long dark winter evenings. There are links here to other participants in the fun. You can find the others via google.

It's got nothing to do with the Highlands and one of the major dictionaries is here, oh clueless one. -- Derek Ross | News 00:51, 18 Dizember 2007 (UTC)

Spelling words as they sound... I guess that is a pretty revolutionary concept to most native English speakers. --81.129.139.56 16:17, 24 Dizember 2007 (UTC)

Someone should explain to him/her/it that this is a real Wikipedia in a real language that is spoken by real people. He/she/it claims to be Scottish and yet knows not of his/her/its own history, nor the history of the English language. 206.252.74.48 16:22, 3 Januar 2008 (UTC)

SCOTTISH PEOPLE SPEAK ENGLISH, NOT THIS SHIT PICTURED ON THIS SITE!!! wrote some random guy from Texas

Yes, we can speak English too and we generally do when speaking to those less gifted than ourselves, <grin>. -- Derek Ross | News 19:38, 13 Januar 2008 (UTC)

If you've got a problem with content on the internet then just live with it. UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS: ARTICLE 19: Everyone is entitled to freedom of opinion and expression... Just forget it's existance and it will go away from your mind. Chris, 19:55, 10 Januar 2008 (UTC)

Um, can't you change it to any REAL Scottish language? If not, kill it and have them use english...and was this set up by Uncyclopedians? (208.108.145.30)

Ye'll no can come up wi ony nairae-nebbit havers that haesna been said a million times afore. At the hinderend aw yer glaikit blethers daes is tell us mair aboot yersel nor this Wiki. 84.135.221.245 17:08, 12 Februar 2008 (UTC)

208.108.145.30, THAT IS MY POINT ENTIRELY! —69.151.244.108 04:28, 16 Februar 2008 (UTC)

Can ye no jus ignair it? Get on wi life in Bolton or fa'ver ye bide an we'll say nae mair aboot it. OchAyeTheNoo 11:53, 16 Februar 2008 (UTC)

Let me explain it to you, All Caps Person. You complaining about this site is as rude and ignorant as a Spanish speaker going to the Porteguese Wikipedia, saying it is not a real language, and asking them to take it down. Do you understand now? 206.252.74.48 17:54, 22 Februar 2008 (UTC)

69.151.244.108, Scots is a real language and recognised as such by the Scottish Government, the UK Government and the EU. It has existed for centuries. Robert Burns, one of the world's most famous poets wrote in the language. If you want a little more information on the Scots language and it's history you could try the wikipedia article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language

I don't understand why, as a Scottish person you find these pages offensive? I am Scottish also, I would guess most of the editors are also Scottish or have some Scottish heritage. There is nothing derogatory about a Scots language wikipedia ... Apologies to the other editors for replying in English. Just here to express my support for the project :) cheers!80.195.246.3 23:21, 28 Februar 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, 80.195.246.3 (and to the other anons who have spoken up for us). We appreciate your support whether in Scots or in English! -- Derek Ross | News 01:03, 29 Februar 2008 (UTC)

Thes nee Scots eah, ah knaa thes es neurth eass Inglish. Ow, jus cus ye gan ower th Tweed watter ye dinnit jus staet tahkin ah nyu langedge ye knaa! Strites awae frae reeden thes Wiki ah nyu et ahs me ahn langedge, so afore yas aal mak ah riplie ahm noh avin ah gan ah Scots, just lettin ye knaa me thots. 167.1.176.4 07:44, 29 Februar 2008 (UTC)

That's harder than it looks btw. 167.1.176.4 07:46, 29 Februar 2008 (UTC)

Naw, we ken fine at the Border isnae a language border. Fowk in Scotland spik Inglis, and fowk in Northren Ingland spik Scots (or something no faur frae Scots). Whan Ah hear fowk fae Newcastle spikkin, it soonds mair like Scots nor Inglis tae ma lugs. Ma mither bides in Coonty Durham, and she's got a wee Northumbrian Language beuk, and at luiks like Scots tae me an aw. Bazza 09:58, 29 Februar 2008 (UTC)

While I dont speak Scots, I do speak Old English, and I do recognize that Scots is directly descended from a northern dialect of Old and Middle English. I fully support the Scots language/dialect. Unlike certain all-caps crybabies whom I wont mention, I recognize how languages evolve, and I therefore recognize Scots to be its own distinct form within the Anglic languages. We will not cater to your inability to accept reality. If you want to warp your view of the world, then go lock yourself in a church somewhere. (To anyone wishing to reply, simply see my user page here.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THIS IS JUST FRACTURED ENGLISH, WITH WORDS BEING WRITTEN AS THEY SOUND TO SOME PEOPLE, AND IS NOT AN ACTUAL LANGUAGE!

Sir Capsalot, care to explain why you think this is the case (you know, evidence and such)?

It'll be the same wey Catalan is juist fracturt Spanyie wi words written like they soond tae the Catalans. In fac' thinkin o't maist leids is fracturt versions o some ither leid, written as they soond tae the fowk that speaks thaim, cep isolate cases like Basque or that.

A'm still awfu confuised aboot the ower-emotional response Scots gets fae a lot o fowk. Is it threatenin some wey A hivna jaloused? Mendor 15:34, 30 Mey 2008 (UTC)

DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A REAL LANGUAGE?!?!

[edit] Conditional approval!

Jus tae let ye ken tha the Scots Wiktionar haes been grantit conditional approval. Please help by makin new pages on the Incubator so tha the project can be approved fully. Cheers, OchAyeTheNoo 14:10, 24 Dizember 2007 (UTC)

Collogue anent it here. 84.135.221.245 18:29, 12 Februar 2008 (UTC)

I would like tae help ye, but Scots is not me leid... --84.28.2.108 20:08, 25 Mairch 2008 (UTC)

You can use English here if you want - it's easier to read than bad Scots :-) Bazza 09:31, 26 Mairch 2008 (UTC)

Alright :) I understand :) --84.28.2.108 14:26, 28 Mairch 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blythe Burn's Nicht tae yous!

Juist as it says abuin - hae a guid tyme an raise a gless o Irn Bru tae the Bard.

- Duncan Sneddon

Thank ye, Duncan. It wis grand. Hope yours wis fine tae. -- Derek Ross | News 17:06, 26 Januar 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kintra Infobox

Hi, A wis thinkin that we need an infobox for Kintras an it turns out we hae ane. Houaniver, we dinnae seem tae be uisin it (tho A maybe wrang). Daes onybodie ken hou tae uise it? Cuid a bodie show us hou tae an a can pit it intae some kintras' airticles. Scroggie 23:51, 8 Februar 2008 (UTC)

A took a keek at the Inglish Kintra Infobox an wirked oot hou tae uise oor ane. Hae a wee look at Albaniae tae see whit A daed. Scroggie 00:25, 9 Februar 2008 (UTC)

Shuld infoboxes on Scots Wikipedia be substituted o transcluded? WODUP 05:49, 10 Februar 2008 (UTC)

Transcluded, A think. OchAyeTheNoo 22:10, 10 Februar 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ither lesser-uised leids o Europe

[edit] Multilingual coordination

[edit] The Metro

Well, this wikipedia was mentioned in The Metro to-day (25/2/08). Bryan Parry

That's grand. -- Derek Ross | News 18:29, 25 Februar 2008 (UTC)

Aye, I saw thon airticle. Seemed tae be sayin the Scots Wiki haed juist been pit up the nou... - Duncan Sneddon

Hang on. Are wi spikkin aboot the Canadian Metro or the British ane ? -- Derek Ross | News 06:22, 26 Februar 2008 (UTC)

Weil, I didnae see the Canadian ane, but we wes in the UK (or Scottish, oniewey) ane. Wha kens, aiblins in the Canadian ane an aw, dout it but. - Duncan Sneddon

Aah, That maks sense. Ah didna ken ye were in Scotland juist nou. -- Derek Ross | News 03:30, 27 Februar 2008 (UTC)

I saw it in the London Metro. BryanAJParry

[edit] Article Requests etc

Aye aye lads and lasses, excuse me using English. I think if i was to write an article in Scots the spellin would probably be contentious - as by most peoples opinions i would not be from a Scots speaking area (the wrang thoe), so could i request article for; Carlisle, Newcastle and Sunderland? All three have been claimed (although maybe under older names) by Scotland at some point.

Newcastle is the northern-most city, Carlisle is just across the border and Sunlun is the largest city between Edinburgh and Leeds, are they worthy? 167.1.176.4 11:43, 29 Februar 2008 (UTC)

The Scots wikipedia isn't just for articles about Scotland - I've written ones on Japanese for a start, and we've a whole load on Finnish metal bands. So aye, articles on English cities and towns are fine. It just needs someone to do them, if you want to volunteer! And dinna fash yersel ower the spellin - a body'll come alang an fix it. Mind it'll be fixt tae "Scots" spellin, and no tae Northumbrian spellin... Bazza 14:25, 29 Februar 2008 (UTC)

w00t! Finnish Metal! Welcom abuird Northumbrian dude, guid tae see mair fowk on here wantin tae screieve airticles. Ye'll get the hing o the spellin fairly suin, I wad think - tak a keik aroun sum o ithir airticles an ye'll see its no sae tuech. - Duncan Sneddon (resident metal scriever, amang ithir things).

Reet. Av ah deek ah; Sunderland and Mackem. Bare in mind that this is written in Southern Scots (haha) so you lot can ammend the spelling and add bits etc. 167.1.176.4 12:55, 3 Mairch 2008 (UTC)

Shite, Mackems, can yous cut the 's' for us, am useless. 167.1.176.4 13:00, 3 Mairch 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please pick historic talk from Inkubator

Please pick this historic talk from Incubator and mark this outdated page to deletion. Thanks!. --195.144.252.245 19:08, 14 Mairch 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Easter

Hiya, juist sayin I howp youse aw haed a happy Easter. Ma kirk haed a wee service at the tap o Blackford Hill (Edinburgh) an ma faither gied a readin frae Lorimer's New Testament in Scots. This wes gey weil recieved an attractit naethig but positive comments frae the fowk there.

On the subjeck, I'll be daein a wee mini-series about Halie Week (Palm Sunday airticle up the nou), an wunnered gin we cuid mak a "Halie Week" catagory as a sub-cat o "Christianity". It'll hae at the verra least sax airticles. Duncan Sneddon 23:41, 23 Mairch 2008 (UTC)

[edit] University

Hi, A wis wonderin whilk is richt, university, universitie or varsity as we hae them aa (DSL gies université an aa, tho A amnae sure aboot accents) Scroggie 20:34, 21 Apryle 2008 (UTC)

On a related note, we hae December an Dizember bein uised. Derek haes aaready brocht this up on the Collogue Page but naebody replied. DSL daesnae hae Dizember (it haes December, Dissember etc) but it is uised on scots-online. A think that December shoud be used acause no aabody says it wi a Z, tho that coud be endue tae Scots Inglish. A think bein consistant is the maist important thing for wir Wiki. Scroggie 20:01, 22 Apryle 2008 (UTC)

Weel, Ah'm mindit tae uise varsity an December. Bazza 08:28, 23 Apryle 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry

they'll glue you back together

IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/ignores haivers abuin] I'm fer "Varsity" an "December", fer whit its wurth. Nae special reasonin, forbye I think they is the versions ye'll maist aften see, and conformin tae that micht jist tak us ae wee step neirer tae staudartisation [...wavy draum sequence lines...] Duncan Sneddon 22:07, 6 Mey 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, A noticed we hae baith Halyruid an Halieruid uised for the Inglis "Holyrood". A'v gien a leuk on Google an thair seems tae be reliable sources for baith o thaim. Juist yet anither day an anither attempt tae staundartise wir tung. Scroggie 23:56, 21 Mey 2008 (UTC)

Halieruid luiks mair richt tae me. Bazza 09:44, 22 Mey 2008 (UTC)

Haly haes been aboot awfu lang and disna leuk sae heiliegoleirie as hailie, tho ye michtna be haillie wi me on that;-). 84.135.222.108 14:55, 22 Mey 2008 (UTC)

Sin DSL haes Halyrude an Hal(l)yruid A say we gang wi Halyruid. Scroggie 17:30, 30 Mey 2008 (UTC)