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Contents 1 Facts vs. findings 2 Francis Galton 3 Armenian genocide 4 Shockley 5 R&I article 6 RfC on Dysgenics 7 Comments on others 8 Dysgenics

[edit] Facts vs. findings

Hey Zero_g, thanks for your help on the Race and Intelligence article. I'm still concerned that the study being presented is being misrepresented by not making clear that their conclusions are predictions, not incontrovertible fact. The way it stands before my edits, I think it is misleading to the readers - their statistical study represents a theoretical prediction predicated upon a simple model. It is not a fact that you would get an x% increase in poverty with a 3-point drop in IQ, it is a prediction. Don't you agree?

I know your concern is that it is being watered down, but shouldn't we try to use as neutral and as non-judgemental a tone when discussing the subject? --JereKrischel 22:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Francis Galton

Thank you kindly. I actually took a look around for said ref, but did not see it.--Media anthro 19:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Armenian genocide

Please provide for a 3rd party reading of the Dutch criminal law that says that people can be prosecuted for denying the Armenian genocide in the Netherlands. I doubt you can find one. Intangible 14:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shockley

Zero, I don't see a problem in your edits, but the correct thing to do is to discuss a change after it has been reverted. I'm willing to offer a third opinion to help you and Ramdrake. Cheers! --Kevin Murray (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] R&I article

What do you think of Nick and Legalleft's ideas on the article. See towards the end of this section: [1] --Jagz (talk) 15:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfC on Dysgenics

I have opened an RfC on the content dispute we're currently having, in the hopes that a wider input will help us determine whether the article in its current state gives undue weight to fringe science. I will abide by the RfC consensus, and I hope you will too.--Ramdrake (talk) 01:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comments on others

Accusing other editors as you did here of being "meatpuppets" and "obstructive" in an AfD is uncivil and may cross the line into personal attacks. Please refrain from commenting about the other contributors, and instead focus on the editorial content of the articles, and the merits of the discussions. If you believe there has been misbehavior by other editors, then please follow the dispute resolution process or report it to WP:ANI. Dreadstar † 01:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

This comment is an unwarranted personal attack and is disruptive. If you continue making such comments, you will be blocked. Dreadstar † 16:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Clearly you are personally involved if you let personal attacks like this one slide by [2] without a warning, yet threaten me with a block when I simply speak my mind and ask an editor (for the third time) to stop repeating an incorrect statement without making a single personal attack. Maybe you should ask another admin to baby sit the discussion if you cannot involve yourself in an unbiased manner? --Zero g (talk) 16:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I've been responding to those comments that have been directly reported to me or that I have happened to come across. Please bring what you feel are problematic edits to my attention and I'll take appropriate action as I did here. Your comment is not just "simply" speaking your mind to ask an editor to stop repeating an incorrect statement, you are accusing other editors of vandalism and being liars. That's not only uncivil, it is a personal attack. If you continue making such accusations, you will be blocked. Dreadstar † 16:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Dreadstar, please put a leash on Ramdrake. He's getting away with too much. --Jagz (talk) 16:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dysgenics

If you're still interested in a more complete article on Dysgenics, try Wikinfo. I think you'd be able to paste a version of the Wikipedia Dysgenics article there. --Jagz (talk) 21:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)