Talk:Vulcan nerve pinch
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[edit] Exclusive to Vulcans?
the only non-Vulcan seen unsuccessfully attempting a nerve pinch is Leonard McCoy in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, so in the strict canon of Star Trek it cannot be said for certain that the technique is exclusive to that race.
seems to contradict
Commander Data, an android, as well as humans Jean-Luc Picard and Jonathan Archer have also been shown doing the neck pinch.
Which is correct? --Keeves 15:33, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The second. McCoy was the only human TOS character to perform it. (Alphaboi867 00:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC))
I'm glad you took that section out, because from my POV, not even McCoy performed it, at least not entirely without help: In that scene in The Search For Spock, McCoy was under heavy influence of Spock's katra, which enabled him to do it. --Keeves 03:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Not only could the nerve pinch be used on humanoid life forms, but it can be used on some other lifeforms as well. Star Trek V shows Spock using a nerve pinch on a horse-like lifeform. So I changed the article to reflect that.
JesseG 03:51, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Wasn't there one episode where Kirk, once more seeing Spock peacefully subdue someone, told Spock he'd have to teach him that some day? And Spock replied that he'd tried several times. So it can't be something unique to Vulcan physiology or telepathic powers or anything like that. 140.147.160.78 13:40, 19 December 2006 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
[edit] Spaceballs
Shouldn't this be mentioned?
- I don't think so. If we start mentioning every parody that happens to feature something nerve-pinch-like, we'd never get done. --Kamagurka 09:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sure about the Pistol whip?
TV.com states that the original script called for a karate chop from Nimoy, not a pistol whip (have you ever seen a pistol in a non-timetravel trek episode?). Anyway, the pistol whip thing needs a source that tops tv.com. --Kamagurka 09:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have no info, but it could have been meant with a phaser. That could be refered to as a pistol whip. 140.147.160.78 13:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
- The Star Trek Encyclopedia (1994 edition) says it was a karate chop to which Nimoy objected -- no mention of a pistol whip. However, that at least is a reputable source to cite for the fact that he suggested the neck pinch at all! Dave-ros 19:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Matheson's June 8, 1966, Final Draft script has Spock "lunge" from concealment and he "kayoes" the douvle. Later McCoy reproaches Spock for the "rap" he gave the double's head. Nothing else. Sir Rhosis (talk) 08:47, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] EMH and Changlings
Odo has used the move and after merging with "The Link" now almost his whole race knows it.
The EMH's (I - IV) detailed anatomy and physiology knowledge.
[edit] The Action Hero's Handbook
There is a book called "The Action Hero's Handbook", which among other things, gives step-by step instructions to preforming a nerve pinch. Should that book be mentioned in the article? 141.154.165.121 05:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nerve pinch was invented earlier!
Hi!
I know the whole Star Trek old series. Therefore I am quite sure that the nerve pinch was invented earlier than in the episode "The enemy within".
In the episode "Where no man has gone before" (which originally was the second pilot film and therefore is the oldest episode within the series) Spock clearly tries to apply this pinch to Lt. Gary Mitchell who is just a bit quicker and manages to repulse his adversary by discharging some kind of flash on him.
Best regards
Harald —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.141.212.149 (talk) 20:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Does it actually work?
There should be a citation in the article stating wether it works or not. - Thero
As far as i can say, there are similar grips, which affect nerves and blood vessels. They are thaught in some material arts and do work. But most who know those, don't want to eplain them to people without the proper training, because if done wrong, you can seriously injure someone and it takes some training to aply those.
[edit] Number of times VNP used by Spock
There should be a total of times used. Septagram 04:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Death Grip in "Amok Time"
Cut this:
- When Spock and Kirk were pitted in a battle to the death while Spock was in the throes of pon farr, he believed that he had killed the captain with a death grip. However, it was actually McCoy’s doing, having administered a drug which rendered the captain unconscious and lowered his vital signs to an undetectable level.
That's not exactly accurate: what Spock did was garrote Kirk with a nunchuku-like weapon called the ahn-woon. It was not a bare-handed move. Ellsworth (talk) 01:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
