Talk:Vivian Stanshall
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[edit] Deleted quotes
I note Hoary has removed a few quotes that I had put in
- Ralwinson end - quoting a few lines is allowed as I understand it as fair use.
- Ginger Geezer - again I would have thought the quoting of a few lines in an article like this would be GFDL
- Opening quote was Rawlinson - who was a character of Stanshall's and written byhim - so it is a quote by him - and neatly sums up his drinking problems..
Well He Ho ! Brookie:the wind in the grass 15:30, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Teds
The first truly original example of British working class gang culture, Teddy Boys had a highly distinctive look: drainpipe trousers; shoestring ties; suede "brothel creeper" shoes with built-up crêpe soles; long, strongly moulded greased-up hair; and, most importantly, the trademark garment after which they were nicknamed - the "Drape": a long Edwardian frock coat with satin-faced lapels. Originally these would have been sourced cheaply from second hand clothes shops, but before long the smarter Teds were having them tailor-made at considerable expense, in a rainbow of garish colours. -- is a pleasing description of teddy boys, but it doesn't seem to me to belong in the article; rather, it should be within Teddy Boy. For now, I plonk it here. -- Hoary 09:39, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)
[edit] Viv's widow and grandchild
For the second time, I've removed mention of a grandchild that Viv never met. If Viv's daughter gets an article for some reason, mention of her daughter may of course go there.
I've also removed mention of a novel that Ki Longfellow wrote after Viv's death. If it had been claimed that, say, the novel was biographical, mention of the novel might be appropriate in this article. But there's no hint that it's relevant. There does not seem to be any reason for links specific to his widow or her work, either. If somebody would like to reinsert these, please explain the reason why on this talk page. -- Hoary 02:12, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC)
[edit] "His very non-PC Jesus joke"
We read of "His very non-PC Jesus joke". What was this?
For a moment I had a wonderful picture of Police Constable Jesus — but no, I fear this "PC" is more likely to be the bugaboo of the American right, automatically applied to any idea that might threaten profits (of companies already making huge profits), "the family", the notion of US preeminence in anything, etc. etc. (yawn). -- Hoary 02:12, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC)
- If I remember correctly it ends with Jesus doing some fine swimming and someone remarking "not bad for someone with holes in his hands". --80.1.196.17 17:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Motivation for the release of Sir Henry at Ndidi's Kraal
We read:
- A second Rawlinson album, Sir Henry at Ndidi's Kraal (1983), recounts Sir Henry's disastrous African expedition, but disappointingly omits the rest of the Rawlinson clan. It is debatable whether this album should ever have been put out at all. [snip] The results were, at best, a bit of a mess. Then [snip] the record company (convinced that Vivian was on the verge of death and determined to capitalise on the grief of his fans) grabbed the tapes, cobbled them together and released them.
The LP is nowhere near as polished as Rawlinson End, but I find it hilarious. As far as recorded drunkenness is concerned, I find it much less uncomfortable listening than Men opening umbrellas ahead. So if there were a debate, I'd say yes it should have been put out. That aside, what's the source for the assertion that the record company "was determined to capitalise on the grief of VS's fans"? To me, this smells of speculation. -- Hoary 09:21, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
The source of this is me, his wife, who was there for every minute of this debacle. Vivian was not even close to finishing the album, was disatisfied with it, and did not authorize its release. Vivian did not find it hilarious and for the rest of his life was ashamed of it, as well as furious at the betrayal of the "chum" who took it to the record company as soon as he was in hospital, possibly dying. ..Ki Longfellow 16:42, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bonzo Years
I suggest someone with more knowledge of the subject than me moves most of this into the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band article. Ben Finn 12:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Men Opening Umbrellas Ahead
seems to be deleted. Please sign the online petition at:- http://www.petitiononline.com/MOUA/ to persuade Warner Bros to re-release it.SmokeyTheCat 11:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Bonzo.jpg
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