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Portal talk:Visual arts

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Featured portal The Visual arts Portal is a featured portal, which means it has been identified as one of the best portals on Wikipedia. If you see a way this portal can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, please feel free to contribute.
This talk page is for discussing improvements to the Portal about Visual arts; content disputes should take place on the appropriate article's talk page.

Please ensure this portal's details are listed in the Portal directory and its status is assessed.

For discussion about Portals generally, please see the WikiProject on Portals.
To-do list for Portal:Visual arts:
  • Periodic (Monthly?) update of DYK

Contents

[edit] First section

There seems to duplication between the sentences and the bold links below. Since this context is static, I think it makes sense to minimize the area of this section. I'd like to move the bold links into the first sentence, so it'd read: 'including painting, sculpture, photography, conceptual art, drawing, graphic design, printmaking and others' Does anyone see any issues with this? Clubmarx | Talk 18:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Not at all; the two lines of bold links were excessive. HAM 21:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured picture

I was thinking of updating the featured picture on the Visual arts portal. I see you were the last to update it. Is there a process for nominating pics? I'd like to use the Aalto Vase image. It doesn't look like there's a formal process, just thought I'd check first. Clubmarx 19:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Feel free to update the picture. There's no formal nominating process yet, but there's no reason not to be bold and create one (I'm busy creating one for Portal:Arts at the moment, and have found that Portal:London has a good example of how to do it). Fair play to you, Clubmarx, you've been giving this portal a lot of attention lately, so I've added your name to the list of maintainers for P:VA on Wikipedia:Portal/Directory. HAM 07:43, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
    • OK thanks Ham. I guess if get more activity or questionable/contentious images we'll start the process like you set of for Arts. Clubmarx 17:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] template

Sorry, the blue box was too much. Definitely, not standard and the content is supposed to be the prominent thing on the page, not the template. I tried to like it. Clubmarx 23:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Art Uploads

Hello. I was wonderining if you could help me by providing me with some more information about uploading pictures of art works onto Wikipedia. Thanks, Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 02:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red headlines

The red headlines look like links to nonexistent articles. Could benefit from a change. –Zinjixmaggir 00:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Royal_Society_of_Miniature_Painters_Sculptors_and_Gravers

I came across the above article since SuggestBot recommended it to me as a stub I might be interested in expanding. It is a bit out of my league, but could be interesting just the same. The information in the article seems to basically be the text at http://royal-miniature-society.org.uk/index.htm . Suggestions? I'm relatively new to WP so I don't know all the appropriate ropes yet ... Thanks! Keesiewonder 00:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal image and color scheme

In making some content and arrangement changes to this portal, I've decided I'm not enamored of the palette image at the top. Any ideas for a more compelling image?

Also, I don't really care for the current color scheme, but am not sure I have any ideas for improvement. Any one else feel the same way about the color scheme? If you're feeling bold, go to Portal:Visual_arts/box-header and try something different. I'll be playing in my sandbox. Cheers, Planetneutral 03:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

That's for taking on this stuff, Planetneutral! I like a neutral color - the colored page elements compete visually with the art displayed on the page. And I boldly went and did it, though I'd like to see what other folks come up with, too. [>>sparkit|TALK<<] 04:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
That's actually not bad. My main issue with it presently is that the section title color gets somewhat washed out on the background color in the smaller font sizes on my screen. Definite improvement. Planetneutral 11:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I took your color scheme to the next logical level by creating a background box using the text color of the headers. I think it helps the boxes stand out more.
What inspired you to go lowercase with the box headings? It's growing on me, although I have to admit I recoiled at first. Planetneutral 00:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I like that slate color for a background! The lowercase thing is just a style thing - something just a little out of the ordinary. [>>sparkit|TALK<<] 03:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, it works for me now. I did some digging for a good 'eye' image to use. I put together a few options of what both the template and portal section might look like. Check it out here. I was initially thinking of the third option, but now I'm drawn to the fourth. The whole hand-eye thing really resonates for me, even if it's perhaps not the cleanest image resolution-wise. Anyway, your comments are very much welcome and feel free to use that sandbox page to try out any other images you come across. Planetneutral 04:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know?

Do you think we really need this section? It never gets updated and I wouldn't even know where to start. I'd rather incorporate a news section and/or a topics box. Planetneutral 05:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

And wouldn't you know, fifteen minutes later I figure out how to go about it. Let me see what I can do to revive this neglected section. Planetneutral 06:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal peer review

Transclusion got unruly, so go see it at Wikipedia:Portal peer review/Visual arts/archive1. Planetneutral 03:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Introduction

The introduction seems awkward, and the last(I wrote "second" before) two sentences might need attribution/citation due to their POV flavor. So, here's a suggestion. --sparkitTALK 05:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Visual arts are the art forms that focus on the creation of works which are primarily visual in nature, such as painting, sculpture, photography, printmaking, and filmmaking. Those that involve three-dimensional objects, such as sculpture and architecture, are a sub-set called plastic arts. Many artistic disciplines (performing arts, language arts, and culinary arts) involve aspects of the visual arts as well as other types, so these definitions are not strict.

The current usage of the term "visual arts" includes fine arts as well as crafts, but this was not always the case. Before the Arts and Crafts movement in the Britain and elsewhere at the turn of the 20th century, "visual artist" referred to a person working in the fine arts (such as painting, sculpture, or printmaking) and not the handicraft, craft, or applied art disciplines.

The scope of study and appreciation of visual arts spans the globe, and reaches through time back to people drawing on stone walls. All societies have embellished their tools and toys with at least a bit more visual interest than is functionally necessary.

Actually, let me see if I can come up with something more global for that second paragraph... --sparkitTALK 06:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm onboard with reworking it, but be careful not to leave it so short that we get the "Intro needs more development" comments. I'm happy to copy-edit whatever you come up with..."the Britain?"  ;-) Planetneutral 06:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
OK. I'll leave the 2nd paragraph and add a 3rd, which I just drafted above, and put it into the portal page. I'm happy to have it copy-edited. :) --sparkitTALK 14:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
To be honest, I thought some of it read better in the earlier version, so what I've done is attempted to combine the two versions and made some other tweaks to clean it up. And I fixed "the Britain". Planetneutral 14:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK and IE/Win

A comment in the Portal:Philosophy/Did you know says...

  • Do NOT use the "|right" image markup here-- use <div style="float:right;margin-left:1em"> instead.

The image in the VA DYK uses the |right wiki markup. I wonder if this might be the source of the IE problem when DYK is in the right column? --sparkitTALK 13:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Great find! Totally fixed that problem. It does leave another quirky IE display issue where the image sits about a line higher than the first DYK, but that might be tolerable. Thanks! Planetneutral talk 15:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Random box-header subpage

I started a test of the default values of the Random box-header subpage template here with the optional "watch" parameter included. The default settings use all of the subpages at Portal:Box-header. Right now, that means 42 different color palettes. Some probably look nice here, some not so nice. If desired, it's possible to use just a range of subpages, e.g., 40-42 are shades of gray. It's also possible to place a customized set of subpages under Portal:Visual arts/box-header.

I put the test here because I thought at least some folks interested in the visual arts would be interested in playing with this template's possibilities. If you really can't take it, I'll understand if you revert the test. However, I hope you give it a test drive or two before you get rid of it completely.

Also, I would be interesting in knowing what you think of this color palette randomization approach. Would you change anything about the template? Would you like to see it at any other portals? Thanks for your consideration. RichardF (talk) 04:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Sorry, but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with the idea of randomizing color layouts on a portal. Pick one color scheme and go with it. Cirt (talk) 04:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Duly noted. That may well be the majority viewpoint. Some may like a little variety, like shades of a particular color. If no one salutes it for a permanent arrangement, the template still might be useful for quickly testing possibilities during the design phase of building a portal. RichardF (talk) 04:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
      • I like your last thought - it could prove very useful for quickly testing which color scheme works best on a portal, during WP:PPREV and WP:FPORTC discussions. Cirt (talk) 04:43, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


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