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[edit] Welcome

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[edit] Norwegian and/or living in Norway?

Hi, I took the chance of including you in our category, based on your recent edit indication an intimate knowledge of Heimdal (Tillerbyen). Feel free to remove the category tag I placed on your user page if you want too, of course. Welcome! --Wernher 23:18, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes indeed I am a Norwegian and I libe near heimdal in the city of Trondheim.

Check my Norwegian wikipage

--Vindheim 23:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message out of the blue. After about six months of out of the blue messages i finally figured out that Werners talk link was piping to my talk page. The fact that Wernher was the only other user to comment on your page has helped me to finally figure out this mystery. Thanks for your help ;-) David D. (Talk) 23:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

glad to be of assistance

--Vindheim 14:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proper removal ov vandalism

Welcome to wikipedia! Regarding Mustafa Barzani article vandalism.

A proper way do fix vandalism is as follows:

• click "history"
• Look at several most recent contributions by suspicious authors (IP addresses or editors whose names are red links). It is not uncommon that vandals flock and some innocent inexperienced editors fix manually 1-2 most evident corruptions of the text.
• Click at the last non-corrupted version
• Click "edit" and save this version
• Optionally reinsert edits by following editors who didn't notice or incorrectly fixed vandalism (like I just did with Mustafa Barzani).

Thank you for your contributions to wikipedia. Mukadderat 19:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

The vandalism I removed had replaced the whole article with a "funny" påicture. I repalced the text from the previous version, I believe. --Vindheim 10:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Vindheim. Thank you for your comment on the Kurdish people. I will appreciate if you help by that matter. Most of the authorative existing sources support us including wikipedia policy. Xebat Talk + 01:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Mustafa barzani.jpeg

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[edit] Commons

Please do not upload copyrighted images to commons --Cat out 19:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

The images I have uploaded have had their copyright situation checked. Some are from the KRG websise. I contacted the webmaster, asking specifically if the image scould be used in Wikipedia, and received the reply "if you mention the source then you can publish any pictures of krg.org website". I a have also uploaded a map of Iraqi kurdistan, which is from the ICG website, [[1]] which states:

Copyright notice.

Unless otherwise specifically stated, the material on this site was created, authored, and/or prepared by the International Crisis Group ("Crisis Group", formerly "ICG") and Crisis Group is the copyright owner of such materials. Unless otherwise specifically stated, no claim to copyright is being asserted by Crisis Group and material on this website may be freely used as in the public domain. Crisis Group encourages you to copy and distribute the Crisis Group copyrighted materials and documents found on this site (the “Crisis Group Materials”). In that regard, so long as you credit Crisis Group as the source and so long as you comply with the other terms and conditions in this notice, no permission is required to use, reproduce, copy, modify or download any of the Crisis Group Materials.

So what is the problem ?--Vindheim 20:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could you look?

Please visit Triumf Internett. Is it notable enough for an article? Moriori 04:03, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please avoid personal attacks

Personal attacks and imputations of personal motives are unhelpful. We are trying to cooperate on an encyclopedia, not make each other's lives unpleasant. Please consider this. Statements like "It looks as if you are ...", "...because you disagree...", "This article is not your personal playground" and threats like "Do that again and I'll..." are personal judgments and attacks. All of these occur in but a single posting of yours (Talk:Rudolf Steiner). Hgilbert 00:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you can clarify what you see as a solution to the neutrality issue. I have offered two possibilities and you haven't responded to this. At the moment it appears that what you consider "neutral" is only including one point of view. Hgilbert 12:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I have reformulated some of the disputed passages and removed the tag. --Vindheim 19:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Steiner and the Theosophical Society

I appreciate that you would like to have a full picture of the Theosophical Society's point of view included in this article. It is a complex issue, however, and Wikipedia articles are meant to be relatively concise, with complex issues dealt with in summary and sub-articles allowing for fuller treatments. I don't believe we can do justice to both parties' points of view in this article; it is a relatively small part of Steiner's complete biography, and the part of his life between 1912-1925 is currently underrepresented. I hope that you can see the sense of having a full treatment in the sub-article, and a non-contentious summary in the main article, with neither point of view as to the blame for the break presented - simply that there was a break over the issues.

Note that if a fuller treatment returns, with the T.S. POV represented, Besant's false claims about Steiner's relationship to Jesuitism, which were printed in T.S. journals at the time and caused a great disturbance to Steiner himself, will also have to be presented. Then we're back to a situation where the section is too long for the general article. Hgilbert 20:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Steiner's exclusion of a religious group (The Order of the Star in the East) from the German Section was a blatant and intended breach of TS bylaws. The leadership of the TS was therefore forced to withdraw the charter of the German Section. Omitting this fact is grossly misleading, adding to the anthroposphical bias in the rest of article. --Vindheim 10:52, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theosophy

Not sure why you keep trying to qualify Theosophy in ascended master. Blavatski invented Theosophy and coined the word. There is no need to qualify it with "neo-" or "Madame Blavatski's". —Hanuman Das 12:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I put a note on the talk page for ascended master. My point being that Blavatsky's masters were not "ascended", but very much human. The "ascended" part came in later versions of theosophy. --Vindheim 12:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation

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[edit] Request for Mediation

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[edit] race and anthroposophy

I appreciate your adding the comment about there being no evidence of racism in anthroposophical institutions, but there have been issues (such as the ethnography class in Dutch Waldorf schools, and the views of some individual anthroposophists - a few of whom have been thrown out of the Society over this) where questions have been raised, and I don't think there is any way of verifying what I too hope is true. Perhaps you can cite some source that supports a similar statement, however - I will also look for something of the kind. The Dutch government investigation of the ethnography issue pointed out that there was no suspicion whatsoever of racism in the Dutch schools, for example. Hgilbert 15:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iraqi Kurdistan

Why did you revert me? Iraqi Kurdistan as it is is a part of the federal body of Iraq. We certainly do not put {{North America}} on Michigan. --Cat out 14:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I see no reason not to define Michigan as part of America, and - even more to the point - I see good reason to define Quebec as a distinct political entity within North America and not only as part of Canada. --Vindheim 16:07, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

How about individual counties, cities, and other regions? It is highly redundent to do so and against established concensus on the usage of these templates.

You are welcome to define Iraqi kurdistan as a part of Middle east and asia or Michigan as a part of North America but you can do that with a simple sentence without using the template.

If it is not linked on the table it really should not be used.

--Cat out 16:12, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Cool Cat is right you know. Those templates are only for country related articles. Perhaps you should discuss this on the talk page of the article. Please do not revert valid changes made by other editors, and if you wish to make major changes to the article, discuss them on the talk pages beforehand. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 16:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems with Image:Erbil castle.jpeg

Cat out 16:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems with Image:Gas victim.jpeg

Cat out 16:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems with Image:Mustafa barzani.jpeg

Cat out 16:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Mediation: Ascended master

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[edit] Mediation

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[edit] Arbitration

There is a current request for arbitration relating to the articles Waldorf education, Anthroposophy, Rudolf Steiner and Rudolf Steiner's views on race and ethnicity. Hgilbert 01:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:RFAR

Hi Vindheim, I noticed your edit to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration and I wanted to let you know that only Arbitrators (that is, users appointed by User:Jimbo Wales to the Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee) are allowed to vote on cases listed on RFAR. It's really not a huge deal, I've already reverted it, but I wanted to let you know so you would know for future reference. If you have any questions, please feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Essjay (Talk) 05:54, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education

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[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

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[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education

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[edit] Reopening of arbitration

I have reopened the arbitration case concerning this article for review Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education/Review. Fred Bauder 15:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education/Review

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[edit] Wikiproject:Terrorism

Greetings,

I was hoping I could get some input from you, about the proposed mergerof Wikipedia:WikiProject Terrorism and counter-terrorism with Wikiproject:Terrorism. It seems there's a lot of overlap between the two projects, and if we spent a few days merging the lists of articles, sharing ideas and collaborating on improving the same articles which both projects are focused on improving...we could really make some headway. Whether you're in favour, or against, the idea of a merger - I'd appreciate some feedback regardless. Much thanks. Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 21:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Academic Views of Theosophy

I agree with you completely that "it is essential that the main academic consenus views be presented fairly" regarding Theosophy. But such subjective statements such as the "main academic consenus" is thus and such, without giving a source, makes the statement "Original Research" WP:OR. Arion (talk) 20:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kurdistan Workers Party

Hello; I reverted your edits in Kurdistan workers party. I did so, because adding unsourced info in such controversial articles should be avoided. Erasing the sourced info is another no-no. Plus I noticed that your version described "Kurdistan workers party" as an "armed resistance", which is at least as POV as Terrorist (One's terorist is other one's freedom fighter). So it didn't qualify for WP:WTA As long as you take these points into considiration, your edits are always welcome, and your contribution is appriciated. Regards, Kerem Özcan (talk) 12:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello again;

I am not willing by any-means to get in an edit war, and I am not going to do that. I just want to mention that I am by no means a nationalist or anything near that. I condemn the oppression of Kurdish population and culture in Turkey, and also recognize the right of the self determination of Kurdish people (If that means a seperate Kurdistan, so be it). However you should know that Öcalan's PKK, or Kurdistan Workers Party, is by no means a mythical-freedomfighting organization like Che's guerillas. They have been involved in drug and human trafficing, extorsion, attacks against civilians and Kurdish bussinessmen who don't support them, you name it... Of course this doesn't whitewash the oppression by the Turkish government or the army, but also no need to praise PKK.

Also as you can see from the last elections, the Kurdish party that is allegedly connected with PKK, didn't get the support it expected. Many Kurds voted in favor of AKP, for a diplomatic solution rather than guerilla fighting.

I'll revert your version, which btw apart from typos, has many WP:OR problems, once more. As I said before, I'll by no means get into an edit war, but I think you should think about it in the light of what I've written.

Regards, Kerem Özcan (talk) 11:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem edit in Massoud Barzani

I have reverted your edits in [[:Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons}}, which incuded deletion of sourced material, which could be considered vandalism, and addition of unsourced material derogatory to Mr. Barzani's family, which is covered by Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. -- Donald Albury 16:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:PKK

You mean PKK article in Indonesian wikipedia? I hv edited it anyway, removed the "terorist". Thanks for reminding Mimihitam (talk) 13:01, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Terrorism Newsletter

	The Terrorism WikiProject April 2008 Newsletter
News 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack was made a Featured Article Omar Khadr has an ongoing peer review as it begins the slow crawl towards Featured Article status Trials have begun this month in the 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot, Benbrika affair and 2006 Toronto terrorism case, each article could use a good vetting, and the articles on specific alleged terrorists are desperately in need of some clean-up. Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein had his case overturned by the Iraqi courts and was ordered released, although the US military says they will not release him. China announced that they had disrupted a plot targeting the 2008 Summer Olympics, while detractors claim it was fabricated. The bail hearing for Abdullah Khadr, fighting extradition to the United States, is scheduled for April 29 Former Turkish Member of Parliament Leyla Zana is sentenced to two years imprisonment for praising Abdullah Öcalan. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guantanamo detainees missing from the official list needs votes on whether or not it should be kept on Wikipedia.
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Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 05:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kurdistan!?

Let me explain you. Word of Kurdistan is only use by USA and Kurds to describe a region in Mesopotamia. There isn't a country called Kurdistan and that flag is only belongs to Iraqi Kurdistan. Turkey, Syria and Iran are not part of Kurdistan. Turks and Kurds are not enemies. The PKK's goal has been to create an independent, socialist Kurdish state called Kurdistan in Mesopotamia. Are you a member of PKK??? Because you are trying to divide Turkey. Please stop doing this and never use that flag anywhere except Iraqi Kurdistan. Izmir lee (talk) 15:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

You are accusing me to persecute Kurds! I have lots of Kurdish friends. They aren't bad people. I only against PKK and terrorist Kurds. Because they want to divide Turkey and declare independent Kurdistan! Izmir lee (talk) 15:26, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

You also seem to be against kurds affirming their identity as kurds. Your repeated changes to the page Kurdish people have nothing to do with preventing terrorism, but seem to have a lot to do with affirming Turkish identity. I will request arbitration.--Vindheim (talk) 15:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Turks and Kurds have been living together for hundred years. We won't separate our countries! We will live in Turkey brotherly like today! There is no need to Kurdistan! Don't forget this! Izmir lee (talk) 15:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Some people might say that the treatment of Kurds by Turks is not very friendly as of today (understatement). Anyway even the PKK opts for feredalism and not separatism these days. --Vindheim (talk) 15:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Look here! [2], [3] Recent news about Turkish soldiers who killed by PKK on 10th of June 2008! Is it opting federalism?!? Izmir lee (talk) 16:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I did not claim the PKK have renounced armed struggle. I claimed their official goal is no longer an independent Kurdish state. --Vindheim (talk) 17:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC).