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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Pig (zodiac) 3 An Automated Message from HagermanBot 4 Paris Hilton 5 Your question .. 5.1 August 2007 6 Notices 6.1 September 2007 7 Orphaned non-free media (Image:KristenDays.jpg) 8 Turkish Americans 9 Give it a rest 10 The Real World: Hollywood

[edit] Welcome

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You didn't explain this edit. So I reverted it, as per Talk:Minors detained in the global war on terror.

Cheers! -- Geo Swan 01:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the edits to Kristen Blake, she was never legally adopted by Stefano, and her character's original and final name was Kristen Blake. (Same with Peter, who never used DiMera and was never credited as such.) Stefano raised the two, but he never adopted them. D'Amico 12:53, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pig (zodiac)

I have reverted your large scale deletion from the Pig (zodiac) article. Please do not delete meaningful content from articles without discussion or an edit summary. --Sumple (Talk) 05:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, thank you for the effort in building up and maintaning these articles. Nonetheless, there is a significant naming issue with the Pig sign, as you will no doubt note if you read through the paragraph I have added. My motivation in adding this article actually came from a big argument at Talk:Chinese New Year. That there is such a significant difference of opinion on such a basic issue as naming relating to this sign is not only notable: it requires disambiguation.

It is not "irrelevant" - the article previously (incorrectly according to dictionary translations, or improperly according to Wikipedia policy) identified the animal as "boar". No doubt some people will still come to this page thinking that it is a "boar" and wondering why it's called a "pig" instead.

To answer your specific question about the Rat: the difference is that everyone almost invariably calls it a "Rat". Very few people call it a "mouse" or a "hamster". By contrast, while most people seems to call this sign a "Pig", a significant proportion uses "boar". --Sumple (Talk) 05:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I find the "attributes" section very strange - that the zodiac symbol is "traditionally" associated with modern states which didn't exist in ancient times.... (Jordan, Angola, Lebanon, to give some examples; Nepal was considered part of the Empire in the Qing Dynasty). Is there a source for these associations? --Sumple (Talk) 06:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, as a Chinese person I must say I've never heard of the pig being associated with Lebanon, a Muslim country! I would suggest that the more unverifiable parts of these tables (specifically, the countries) should be removed pending proper sources being found: see policy at WP:V. --Sumple (Talk) 07:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I fear we have a basic misunderstanding concerning wikipedia policies here. I appreciate that you have put much effort into this and other pages. Nevertheless, Wikipedia pages are subject to a number of fundamental policies. These are:

WP:NOR: No original research. Basically, this means that information from articles cannot be based on any editor's own, unique research or findings. Thus, anything one posts in an article needs to be referrable to a source. Thus, it is okay to write about things published by a Chinese "astrologer" in a book or similar source, but it is wrong to insert things based on "what a self-proclaimed Chinese 'astrologer' said".

WP:V: Verifiability. This ties into the second issue, verifiability, which states that all information must be verifiable. Even if it is something is based "myths" and "tradition" and "fun" (which the Earthly Branches are not - they are a fundamental part of traditional Chinese philosophy), it needs to be verifiable. Thus, for example, Hitler Has Only Got One Ball gets into Wikipedia because it containes verifiable information, and is backed up by reputable sources.

WP:RS: 'Reliable sources. The third policy states that information needs to be backed up by reliable sources. It is by no means impossible - in fact quite easy - to find the attributes associated with any of the Earthly Branches - they are clearly recorded in the various Chinese philosophical and astronomical/astrological classics. Thus, the Hai sign ("pig") is Yin, is Water, is the 12th sign, is in the north-northwest. A claim that it is related to Angola, by contrast, cannot possibly be in the classics, and unless a verifiable source is supplied, something from "an editor who claims to be an astrologer" is a fortiori not acceptable. --Sumple (Talk) 22:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Paris Hilton

Paris Hilton is 1/16th German. Why do you think her mother is German? Her mother's grandparents' last names were Shumway, Elmer, Dugan, and Callahan, none of which are German.[1] I can not logically imagine any scholarly source that would include a 1/16th German person as a great example of a German-American. Can you imagine someone including a person who is 1/16th Black as a great example of an African-American? Mad Jack 19:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I've shown you her family tree here. She has a single German great-great-grandparent, making her 1/16th German. I don't know the exact breakdown of her other 15/16th ancestry, but I know it includes English, Irish, and Norwegian (don't see any Italian). As you have said yourself, her only German great-great-grandparent was Mary Genevive Laufersweiler, who was Paris's great-grandfather's mother. His father was Norwegian. That makes him half. He married Mary Adelaide Barron - whose parents were Thomas Mason Barron and Mary Mulligan - not exactly German names. Their child - William Barron Hilton (Paris's grandfather) - married Marilyn June Hawley - also not a German name - making Paris's father 1/8th German. As you can see from the family tree, Paris's mother's parents were Que Jay Shumway and Sharon Kathleen ("Kathy") Dugan, and as I said before, her mother's grandparents' surnames were Shumway, Elmer, Dugan, and Callahan. None of these names are German, and indeed the only German ancestry Paris has is from that great-great-grandmother, making her, indeed, 1/16th. Paris may well identify herself as German-American (when in Germany, that is), and of course calls herself Irish when in Ireland (see this), and would probably call herself Norwegian when in Norway. But how is a person who is 1/16h, or roughly 6%, German a good example of a German-American? The term German-American historically refers to German immigrants, their children, or people of full German descent. I can't imagine a scholarly source including Paris Hilton as an example of a German-American. Maybe Conrad Hilton. Mad Jack 06:09, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your question ..

Hi, not a weird question at all. You're welcome.

"Hey, are you German? I got the feeling that you were".

Your sentence can be translated in different ways, depending how familiar you are with your friend. And you need to distinguish if your friend is male or female (to use the proper gender)

• Informal sentence (to be used with family members, close friends etc.)
  • Male: "Hallo, bist Du Deutscher? Ich denke Du könntest einer sein"
  • Female: "Hallo, bist Du Deutsche? Ich denke Du könntest eine sein" (just Deutsche instead of Deutscher, and eine instead of einer)

• Formal sentence (to be used with complete strangers, co-workers, etc.)
  • Male: "Entschuldigen Sie, sind Sie vielleicht Deutscher? Ich hatte den Eindruck gewonnen, Sie wären vielleicht Deutscher." (Please excuse me, are you by chance German (male)? I got the impression that you may be German.)
  • Female: "Entschuldigen Sie, sind Sie vielleicht Deutsche? Ich hatte den Eindruck gewonnen, Sie wären vielleicht Deutsche."

Cheers, MikeZ 09:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] August 2007

A tag has been placed on Sinbad's Grand Cafe, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. MKoltnow 04:27, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself, as you did with Sinbad's Grand Cafe. If you do not believe the article should be deleted, then please place {{hangon}} on the page (please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag) and make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. MKoltnow 04:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notices

[edit] September 2007

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:KristenDays.jpg)

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[edit] Turkish Americans

Hi Turkey is not a European country in any way. Koalorka (talk) 16:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Give it a rest

The photo is verifiable and from a reliable source. C.m.jones (talk) 07:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Real World: Hollywood

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to The Real World: Hollywood, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. (Diff) Also, thanks for removing this unsourced info from the article. However, a minor point needs to made: The info should've been deleted, not because it's a spoiler, but because it was unsourced. So long as a piece of info is relevant, encyclopedic, and sourced, whether it is a spoiler is not grounds for deleting it. Thanks! Nightscream (talk) 01:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)