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[edit] VeohTV is malware?
There is discussion breeding on the internet pertaining to Veoh's ability to delete downloaded files without warning. There's also a section that says they collect credit card information.
From the Privacy Statement:
Veoh privacy statement: "We may collect personally identifiable information from you when you seek access to certain portions of the Veoh Service, publish or download content, and/or register for our services. This information may include, but is not limited to, your name, physical and e-mail addresses, phone and/or fax numbers, Internet address, type of computer and credit card or other payment information, as well as your preferences and usage patterns.
Opinions? Comments? Omegadramon 22:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Xsleuth (talk • contribs) 00:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- ONE of the reasons why VTV is garbage. I don't know if we can still do this on VTV, but you may be able to transfer the files away from it, to prevent deletion. But my files were deleted before I could do this.
-G
[edit] Why no article?
Can someone please explain why this article is not allowed? There are articles for lots of other computer programs, even controversial ones such as Kazaa so I don't understand why not Veoh. I would find an informative article useful right now. --Ishel99 00:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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- This essentially appeared as an advertisement.
- Wikipedia articles must be verifiable in reliable published sources.
I agree I think that there should be some kind of article about Veoh. It is a very popular website, and I think there should at least be some kind of page about it. I am going to work over this weekend on drafting a comprehensive page about Veoh, and I will post it to the talk section. --Cooleymd 01:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Please someone make an article about Veoh. It is a very good site for vewing various videos, most of all animation. Everybody loves it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.24.200.185 (talk • contribs) 23:23, 12 Feb 2007 (UTC)
- WP:ILIKEIT is not a valid reason for including an article in Wikipedia --Iamunknown 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Youtube is on the wiki. Why not veoh? What kind of nazis ran this place anyhow? Has the wiki got sponsorship from youtube? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.238.227.87 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 15 Feb 2007 (UTC)
- Cute --Iamunknown 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
what is this if not an advertisement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youtube youtube is:"Invention of the Year (2006)" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Takarada (talk • contribs) 17:22, 15 Feb 2007 (UTC)
- Yup. Youtube is the invention of the year, as is clearly verifiable from reliable sources such as, oh, say, TIME magazine. If an article can be written about Veoh with verifiable, reliable sources, I'm sure it'll be kept. --Iamunknown 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I came here for an unbiased overview of their downloadable player. The deletion recommendation needs to be removed, people want info. 71.231.13.21 04:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia NOT a dumping ground for random information. That said, the article will go through our deletion process, and then a consensual decision will be made. --Iamunknown 05:04, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
-G
[edit] Plug ins
Can someone explain what plug-ins are needed to access this website? Whenever their content is posted on TV Links, it doesn't work. Nqnpipnr 21:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Legality
Is there any information on how this evades copyright violations? There are a few site users who remove videos after being told they're violating copyrights, but why are some videos (of the same series, for example) allowed when others aren't?
---There's a form thing you have to fill out when you upload something. People probably admit to not owning the rights on the form, state who does, etc. and Veoh allows it.
veoh sucks they have a lot of anime but delete actual episodes they should be suedSno777 19:03, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reads like an add for Veoh
The wiki entry reads like an add for Veoh and could use some major reworking.70.231.255.77 11:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Indeed, it still reads like adds for this (crappy) site. Guess it pays to advertise on wikipedia. --IceHunter (talk) 00:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "Controversy"
This section looks like nothing more than a list of peoples' personal greviances. No evidence is given of any notable controversy, and more than half of it is various complaints about the 5 minute limitation. It would be better to factually describe the consequences of this limitation in the main article, without making it sound like a rant. – Smyth\talk 10:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
It can be rewriten but should stay.Claycrow 17:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
No, it shouldn't. It's not even accurate. 72.130.138.117 04:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- Is the 5-minute rule still in effect? --68.161.190.195 (talk) 20:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
No, just everyone is too lazy to change it, I don't even edit on Wikipedia hardly ever. --Claycrow (talk) 14:10, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I've cut most of this and toned it down significantly, because it read like an unsourced rant. However even the part I've left is inadequately sourced; a random complainer on forums.veoh.com is not a reliable source. If someone has reliable sources documenting a controversy over this issue, it should be used as a reference instead; otherwise this section should probably be removed. --Delirium (talk) 21:55, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I can't get veoh tv to work when I try to login it just resets the information I put in and I have to keep putting in my username and password over and over how can I fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xsleuth (talk • contribs) 00:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] original format vs. flash
The article says "As of February 2008, Veoh changed back to high resolution downloads for those using veoh TV Beta," but that's just not true, well, OK, I'm not 100% sure, but what I'm seeing sure looks like .flv, I have not tried to "save" the videos just "play" them on VeohTV (in either case something is being saved on my computer), but what I'm getting looks like flv, not as crappy as YouTube though. Lysis rationale (talk) 08:50, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed, the "saved" videos are of the original format. Lysis rationale (talk) 19:19, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Anime
Many of the people who visit Veoh watch anime episodes. If you visit sites such as http://www.watchanimenow.com/, then you'll notice that most of the videos are veoh videos. Is this worth mentioning in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.58.96.135 (talk) 02:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- nope--The Last Uchiha 05:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Discontinuation of services in different parts of the world
here's the thread in their forum: http://forums.veoh.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3780&page=2
This far the country list is:
- Luxembourg
- Latvia
- Chile
- Costa Rica
- Venezuela
- Malaysia
- Indonesia
- Dominican Republic
quote:
Veoh is maintaining markets when[sic] we have the highest concentration of viewers.
Lysis rationale (talk) 01:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Veoh in Jamaica
Could someone explain to me why veoh blocked the access to their site from Jamaica? (Speaker180 (talk))
[edit] Blocked countries=
Algeria * Antigua and Barbuda Argentina Bahrain * Barbados * Bermuda Brazil Brunei * Bulgaria Cayman Islands Chile Colombia Costa Rica Croatia Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark * Dominican Republic Egypt El Savaldor Faroe Islands * Guadeloupe Guam Guatemala Guyana * Hungary Iceland Indonesia Iran Jamaica Jordan Kuwait * Latvia Lebanon * Lithuania Luxembourg Malaysia Malta Mauritius Morocco Nicaragua * Panama Peru Puerto Rico Qatar * Romania Saudi Arabia Serbia Slovakia Slovenia Sri Lanka Syria * Tanzania Thailand Trinidad and Tobago Tunisia * Turkey Ukraine * United Arab Emirates Venezuela Vietnam * Virgin Island * (62 countries) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.168.57.56 (talk) 08:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Unsuprisingly, most of these are so-called "developing countries", but Denmark and Luxembourg are among the richest places on Earth, besting USA or UK in per capita income. How did they get on this Veoh-block list, unless the company has no interest in paying customers? 91.83.20.238 (talk) 11:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Veoh block possible tech reason explained
It appears Veoh started to block due to bandwidht problems. A website called "lemonscripts" developed and hosts a Java applet which allows you to download the original video (not the degraded flash-flv transcript) from Veoh, without having to use the P2P-type Veoh TV utility. The unofficial method takes about 27 minutes to download a 20 min/200MB video via lemonscripts, it uses a CPU-intensive method to fake P2P-like activity. It works very well and countless people use it.
Probably everybody outside of the anglo-saxon world willl be blocked eventually. I think many in the third world and europe will be much pissed off and there are many hackers among them, they may even retaliate against Veoh for the discrimination with a network flood. 91.83.20.238 (talk) 11:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 164 countries Blocked
1.Afghanistan 2.Albania 3.Algeria 4.Andorra 5.Angola 6.Antigua and Barbuda 7.Argentina 8.Armenia 9.Azerbaijan 10.Bahamas 11.Bahrain 12.Bangladesh 13.Barbados 14.Belarus 15.Belize 16.Benin 17.Bhutan 18.Bolivia 19.Bosnia and Herzegovina 20.Botswana 21.Brazil 22.Brunei 23.Bulgaria 24.Burkina Faso 25.Burundi 26.Cambodia 27.Cameroon 28.Cape Verde 29.Central African Republic 30.Chad 31.Chile 32.Colombia 33.Comoros 34.Congo 35.Costa Rica 36.Côte d'Ivoire 37.Croatia 38.Cuba 39.Cyprus 40.Czech Republic 41.Djibouti 42.Dominica 43.Dominican Republic 44.East Timor (Timor Timur) 45.Ecuador 46.Egypt 47.El Salvador 48.Equatorial Guinea 49.Eritrea 50.Estonia 51.Ethiopia 52.Fiji 53.Gabon 54.Gambia, The 55.Georgia 56.Ghana 57.Grenada 58.Guatemala 59.Guinea 60.Guinea-Bissau 61.Guyana 62.Haiti 63.Honduras 64.Hungary 65.Iceland 66.India 67.Indonesia 68.Iran 69.Iraq 70.Jamaica 71.Jordan 72.Kazakhstan 73.Kenya 74.Kiribati 75.Korea, North 76.Kuwait 77.Kyrgyzstan 78.Laos 79.Latvia 80.Lebanon 81.Lesotho 82.Liberia 83.Libya 84.Liechtenstein 85.Lithuania 86.Luxembourg 87.Macedonia 88.Madagascar 89.Malawi 90.Malaysia 91.Maldives 92.Mali 93.Malta 94.Marshall Islands 95.Mauritania 96.Mauritius 97.Mexico 98.Micronesia 99.Moldova 100.Mongolia 101.Montenegro 102.Morocco 103.Mozambique 104.Myanmar (Burma) 105.Namibia 106.Nauru 107.Nepal 108.Nicaragua 109.Niger 110.Nigeria 111.Oman 112.Pakistan 113.Palau 114.Panama 115.Papua New Guinea 116.Paraguay 117.Peru 118.Qatar 119.Romania 120.Rwanda 121.Saint Kitts and Nevis 122.Saint Lucia 123.Saint Vincent and The Grenadines 124.Samoa 125.San Marino 126.Sao Tome and Principe 127.Saudi Arabia 128.Senegal 129.Serbia 130.Seychelles 131.Sierra Leone 132.Singapore 133.Slovakia 134.Slovenia 135.Solomon Islands 136.Somalia 137.Sri Lanka 138.Sudan 139.Suriname 140.Swaziland 141.Syria 142.Tajikistan 143.Tanzania 144.Thailand 145.Togo 146.Tonga 147.Trinidad and Tobago 148.Tunisia 149.Turkey 150.Turkmenistan 151.Tuvalu 152.Uganda 153.Ukraine 154.United Arab Emirates 155.Uruguay 156.Uzbekistan 157.Vanuatu 158.Vatican City 159.Venezuela 160.Vietnam 161.Western Sahara 162.Yemen 163.Zambia 164.Zimbabwe
[edit] RACISM
Since when has blocking every country's IP outside of North America racism? Since when has one's country determined one's race. Who's it racist against blacks? In Africa, I'm guessing that less than 10% of niggers own a computer and far fewer visit Veoh.
- A very civil comment, innit? - Two hundred percent (talk) 04:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
