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This man is not famous serbian inventors.

It's not possible to make a perpetuum mobile, in his biography is more about interests of arecheology.

Please look this links http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/O_VeljkuEng.html

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/SertifikatiEng.html

He tell that Wikipedia list him in bigest serbian inventors.

Thanks

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This man with his 110 inventions and 36 patents as well his applied inventions is one of the greatest and the most famous today's serbian inventors: http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Sto_pronalazakaEng.html http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/PatentiEng.html

There are numerous awards and newspapers articles confirming it: http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/SertifikatiEng.html http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/RecenoStampaEng.html

It in not important whether something is possible or not in theory, it is important to be seen the relevant and proved scientific facts described and presented in his research: http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/OscilacijeEng.html http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/PrototipiEng.html http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/MerenjaEng.html

Thank you.

If mr Milkovic one of the greatest inventors why he is not in serbian wikipedia with other serbian inventors? He is not inventor.

"If mr Milkovic one of the greatest inventors why he is not in serbian wikipedia with other serbian inventors? He is not inventor."

You are in right.

Veljko Milkovic is on this pages of Serbian Wikipedia:

http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BD http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0_%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B3_%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0

Contents 1 List of serbian scientists on serbian Wikipedia 2 POV-check 3 I know the man, as I am from Novi Sad too. 4 proposed deletion 5 "Reliable third party source" 6 What a sad human being he is

[edit] List of serbian scientists on serbian Wikipedia

Did you see here Veljko Milkovic (Вељко Милковић)??? Научници

Богдан Маглић Руђер Бошковић Јован Цвијић Вук Стефановић Караџић Јован Карамата Огњеслав Костовић Степановић Ђуро Курепа Милева Марић Милутин Миланковић Јосиф Панчић Михаило Петровић Алас Милорад Б. Протић Михајло Пупин Никола Тесла Јован Жујовић Лаза Лазаревић Павле Савић

[edit] POV-check

This article is full of non-encyclopedic apologetic praise for a man who is certainly not generally considered as a leading inventor and scientist; the only reference provided is a book written by himself. The perpetuum mobile stuff certainly looks silly, and having a patent granted is rather a bureaucratic procedure of registering an "invention" (without even having to supply a proof of concept) than a properly peer-reviewed scientific work. Duja 09:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Articles about inventorship: Invention Inventor Inventor_(patent) Patent

[edit] I know the man, as I am from Novi Sad too.

He is a strange person. It takes just one reading of his website to realize that there is not one proof of anything he claims to be true. As for the pendulum-driven cart, from it seems as if he's rowing it.

As for the newspaper reports that he has so methodically collected over the years, I can only say that the newspaper reporters usually know nothing about the science and will put to press anything they think would tackle public interest. If newspaper reports were the proof of such ridiculous claims, then it would be very easy to prove that, say, Martians live among us or that Dennis Rodman is one of them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.46.227.3 (talk) 17:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

• If he is a strange person why did his home town award him with highest annual city award for his remarkable contribution in the field of ecology and energetic[1][2]?

If there are not any proofs of his work - how can you explain this PROOFS?! - Dr Peter Lindemann (USA) about Veljko Milkovic's invention - An independent experimental work validating Veljko Milkovic's claims Ternit 20:32, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] proposed deletion

as another comment, i looked through the history of the article to see if i could find an author or authors who would want to know about the proposed deletion. i couldn't find any. the bulk of the article came from anons and abandoned single-purpose accounts. if anyone wants to spam warnings to all the authors, you're more than welcome to. Lunch 22:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course, he is by far not one of the most famous Serbian inventors, but he is notable enough. I have managed to find following newspaper articles about him:

• Dnevnik: an article about him, mentioning various things he worked on. [3]
• Dnevnik: mentions in passing that he received the November Charter (an award given by the city of Novi Sad). [4]
• Vecernje novosti: news about his invention of perpetuum mobile. [5]
• Glas javnosti: more about it. [6]
• Dnevnik: more kookery. [7]

and there is more. You can see a list of his books if you go here and search for his name as the author. Nikola 08:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• RELIABLE, THIRD-PARTY SOURCE: - Dr Peter Lindemann (USA) about Veljko Milkovic's invention

According to the definition of Inventor, the inventor is a person who discovered something new and has at least one approved patent - Veljko Milkovic is certainly an inventor due to his 36 approved patents[8](so far).

City of Novi Sad (his home town) awarded him in 2002 with the greatest annual city award (November charter of the city of Novi Sad[9]) for his remarkable contribution in the field of ecology and energetic. Why would the second largest city in Serbia do that for some guy who is an anonymous and is not worth of it?! That is the highest award and is given for very few people every year.

If he is not a valid inventor why would the Academy of Inventors of Serbia[10] receive him as full member[11][12]?!.

If he and his work are not worth of attention and are not valid why would people all over the world start experimenting and finally proving his claims?! An independent experimental work validating Veljko Milkovic's claims

His previous work, inventions, patents, awards, acknowledgements etc. definitely ranks him as one of the leading today's Serbian inventor. Ternit 20:32, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is the right spot but I have specially made a wikipedia account to state here and specially now that Veljko Milković is my favorite inventor.

Of course the knowledge of a ground breaking invention is not distributed instantaneously even when it's as obvious as milkovic's two Stage Mechanical Oscillator. But the point of an invention is doing something that hasn't been done before. This is not an argument to claim it isn't real. This man shows us how leveraged secondary oscillations outputs around twelve times more energy than the input energy supplied to the primary pendulum, he shows us that perpetual mobile can be build.

His is not a theory but it is an effect displayed. Of course I was also skeptic towards this but I can and did build something as simple as a pendulum. I can say the effect from his videos are as simple to understand as easy to reproduce.

The article can be much updated as this is a peswiki top 100 technology. What does wikipedia want from me? Do I spend hours to update the page so that you can delete it next week in say 10 seconds? I'm sorry buy I'm new to all this wiki editing. Is there a list of requirements for inventors some place? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaby de wilde (talk • contribs)

[edit] "Reliable third party source"

I googled a bit on Dr. Peter Lindeman. His web site is hosted outside of the U.S. He lives in Metaline Falls, WA (Population: 223) and apparently makes a living from selling videos about free energy and organizing seminars about it. Go figure. While I personally don't care much about what people do for a living, I DO care when someone presents such a person as a "reliable third party source" for his unsupported claims. Dr. Lindeman and Mr. Miljković apparently share the same hobby, and while the former has gained his PhD, the latter has yet to prove himself, therefore numerous patents and newpaper clippings.

As for the November Charter, it was awarded to Mr. Miljkovic for his work in ecology, not in perpetuum mobile. Apples and oranges.

"If you're so smart, then how come you're not rich?"

And this is exactly what the article says. Nikola 08:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Google this : "Dr Peter Lindemann" --Shaggy 21:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What a sad human being he is

The man used to stick cardboard boxes on his neighbor's mailboxes so that they could put their empty AA batteries in them. He would later collect them and use them to charge his car battery. Man, you gotta be desperate to do a thing like this! I mean, it is possible to squeeze whatever energy is left in empty batteries, but what about cost/benefit ratio? What about wasted time? And did he make any money out of that?

Mr. Milkovic obviously has a lot of free time.