Talk:Ushanka

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In the post-Soviet period there has been a backlash against this once ubiquitous hat, and it is considered unfashionable in many circles. It is unusual to see young men wearing them in major cities, and it is seen to be a sign of a foreigner, a rustic, a fashion victim, or an old timer trying to hold on to the legacy of the Soviet Union. This may be due to its connection with the U.S.S.R and the Soviet politburo and military. Some Eastern Europeans also consider it a legacy of russification. It should also be remebered that the opening of the Russian economy provided a much greater selection of garments to the Russian consumer, a consumer that previously had few options.

Its usage is currently falling, but whether this is a short term fashion trend or an indication of the end for the Ushanka remains to be seen. Currently young Russian men, at least Muscovites, tend to go hatless or prefer to wear skull caps or western baseball caps. Another, more practical, reason is general warming of climate that makes Ushanka somewhat less comfortable, as it is fairly warm and is best suitable for temperatures of -10 °C and below. Also as it is made of natural fur, it is more expensive than other headwear made from textiles or man-made materials.

This a mix of fantasy ("politburo") and tourist observations ("major cities"). the only reasonable part is "global warming", but it (together with decrease of ushanka usage) started before collapse of the Soviet Union. Also, "natural fur"/"expensive" is irrelevant, since plenty of them are from artificial fur and even worse. mikka (t) 23:14, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

!!!!! What about ШЛЯПА (нем. Schlappe) this is "мужской или женский головной убор, обычно с тульей, из материалов, позволяющих сохранить устойчивую форму". And Russians have general word like "hat" - "головной убор"

A wikipedia search of 'ushanka' does not yield this site. How can we fix that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kamerad (talk • contribs) 01:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Shapka

My Russian teacher told me that Russian did not have a generic name for "hat" -- that шапка refers to a winter hat in particular, not too different from the Ushanka. Can someone native confirm or deny this? --Fastfission 18:08, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Russian is my native language. Common headgear types are mostly covered by two russian words: шапка refers to a winter hat, and шляпа is for hat (like this: [1]).

!!!!! What about ШЛЯПА (нем. Schlappe) this is "мужской или женский головной убор, обычно с тульей, из материалов, позволяющих сохранить устойчивую форму". And Russians have general word like "hat" - "головной убор"

I'd say that "шапка" is more or less equivalent to the word "hat" in English. You can use it to refer to any sort of hat, though if there's a more specific word (like "шляпа" or "кепка") - it might be better to use it. Azov 23:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

This is wrong! And your teacher was right :-). "Шапка" means either a fur hat (not necesarily ushanka-shaped) or a knitted one, while "шляпа" is a general term for a formal man's hat, a cowboy hat, a sombrero etc. AFAIK (I am a native speaker), the two words are virtually never mixed nowadays. Also, deminutive "шапочка" may be used for a swimming cap or a surgical cap, while "шляпка" is definitely a lady's hat. There are also hats that are neither shapkas nor shlyapas e.g. a flat cap, a military cap, a berette, etc. 213.85.28.33 17:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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Im going to do some work on this article and get rid of that ugly bar at the top, anyone who speaks russian , please add a link which verifies the translation - ill do some digging myself though CryptSphinx (talk) 04:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)