Talk:UFC 1

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[edit] The first UFC DID have time limits

The first UFC did indeed have time limits, limited to 5 minutes with unlimited rounds. This is EVEN MENTIONED IN UFC 3, where you hear commentator Brian Kilmeade ask/state to Jim Brown, "Why no time limits, Jim Brown? There were in UFC 1?" in which Brown replies, "In real fights you do not have time limits."

[edit] Lack of References + Too Opinionated

I added a lack of references tag and a neutral point of view dispute tag. One reference isn't going to cut it, nor are statements such as this:

The 6'2" Samoan sumo wrestler weighted in at over 400 lbs, and his speed was limited due to this size.

Due to Shamrock's knowledge of ground fighting, and Smith's only training being in Tae Kwon Do and Muay Thai, Shamrock quickly took Smith to the ground, and secured the heel hook. Smith, although appearing to be hurt by the submission, was not quick to accept defeat and continued to berate Shamrock.

Shamrock initially gained a dominant position but was overcome by Gracie's skill.

MastaFighta 20:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree about some of the language, but most facts can be referenced back to the event itself can they not? Canadian Ninja 21:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

That is true, however events can be interpreted in many different ways (as this article clearly shows). While it was stated that Teila Tuli speed was limited due to his size, there was nothing to really indicate in his match that he was slow. Just because he's over 400 lbs. doesn't mean he's slow, it just means he's over 400 lbs. References will help keep the point of view neutral, instead of merely going by what one interpreted in this match. I hope that makes sense. MastaFighta 18:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How about now?

i've gone through and tried to clean up everything that came off as POV or as original research. let me know what you think. Betterlucknexttime 20:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Not sure of some of the stuff you pulled, the early UFC's where billed as style vs style rather then fighters. Probably largely a result of Rorion Gracie being the one putting it together and the Gracie family's wanting to use it as a platform to grow Gracie JJ. The language might be a little off. "being about style vs style" vs "being promoted as style vs style" but I think it's origins as a method of putting style against style are definately relevant to the article. Canadian Ninja 21:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)