Talk:Suicidal ideation
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"Most people who undergo suicidal ideation do not commit suicide", sounds like a retelling of the myth that 'If someone talks about suicide, then they won't do it', though it can be cited to http://www.aafp.org/afp/990315ap/1500.html . It seems to carry a connotation that if someone is undergoing ideation then they most likely won't, though it appears that ideation is a symptom of the risk though not a gaurantee. I think the sentence is factually correct, but sounds like it is saying something else.--Moriar 03:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] NPOV?
Although I sympathize with the general POV of this article, it does not seem to meet Wikipedia's standard of NPOV. ("should" statements...) Aleta 08:31, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
To me, it seems biased and suggests that commiting suicide is not the right thing to do for a depressed person. I also agree with Aleta's statements. --D. James 04:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Depression is a medical condition. The "right thing to do" for any medical condition is the medical treatment prescribed by doctors. It's not NPOV so much as common practice. The Transhumanist 14:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- The second paragraph is problematic. I'm not sure whether it ought to be rewritten or just eliminated totally. Wikipedia is not a mental health support line; is this content really encyclopedic in scope? LeaHazel : talk : contribs 19:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Suicide ideation?
Isn't the proper term "suicide ideation"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.186.195 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 24 February 2007
- Not as far as I know. --Lukobe 23:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Victim?
The article uses the phrase "suicide victim". It seems rather odd to say that one is a "victim" of something that they have deliberately chosen to do in full knowledge of the outcome. --88.110.34.12
- That's quite normal and not unique to this article. People commit suicide as a result of desperation or mental illness - they are essentially victims of circumstance. Chris 19:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Loneliness
...is a psychiatric disorder?? Chris 19:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] copyvio?
All of the bulleted lists here are from [1], which is one of the external links. Is that enough for copyvio? -- Mikeblas 02:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Symptoms section
I am changing the title of the "Symptoms associated with suicide" to "Symptoms associated with suicide ideation" as this is much more accurate and less confusing Bobprime 19:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] age at risk in men
the article at the mo says men 65+ are more at risk. Could someone find a source for this? Only my understanding was that it was young men who are more at risk of suicide than other age groups. Although maybe it was just that their risk/incidence of suicide is increasing? And maybe they are more at risk of suicide itself, whereas older men are more at risk of suicidal ideation? Special Random (Merkinsmum) 01:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Epidemiology
Should include reference to drugs (e.g. some antidepressants, some diet pills) for which suicidal ideation is a reecognised possible side effect. Discussion of this and cross-references would be worthwhile.
81.157.82.61 (talk) 07:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
