Talk:Stop Child Executions Campaign

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This article was nominated for deletion on 12/1/2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

[edit] Amnesty international campaign

This SCE campaign is not notable. It has taken on the name of a prior existing World-Wide Amnesty International campaign called "Stop Child Executions" to push an agenda specific to Iran. There is very little coverage of this non-Amnesty campaign except on anti-Iranian websites. Many of the mainstream mentions of the "Stop Child Executions" campaign in mainstream media are references to the prior existing Amnesty International campaign. You can read more about the Amnesty International campaign here:

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/content.asp?CategoryID=2112

The Amnesty International campaign does advocate on behalf of those in Iran and Pakistan. I am concerned that this secondary campaign that has the same name is trying to confuse the issue. Also why does this campaign not care about Pakistan?

It is also not clear where the funding for this non-Amnesty SCE campaign is coming from.

--64.230.121.92 21:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

According to this publication from Amnesty International, their "SCE Campaign" began in 2004:

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=15968

--64.230.121.92 21:13, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This article needs to refocus

When I stumbled on this article tonight, I nearly tagged it for deletion. The opening paragraph is about the organization, but does not explain why it is notable or even very much about what it is. Since the article is titled with the name of the organization (or campaign if you prefer), the article needs to focus on the organization itself and not the subject of child execution. (That could be a separate article, and I have no prejudice against that.)

Instead of recommending that it be deleted, I will help its regular editors to bring this article up to standard, if possible. There is something here, but it needs proper sourcing and focus. As a first step, the following information must be obtained, using reliable sources such as newspaper articles and so on. Some of the information may be from the website, but there must be third-party discussion of the organization.

• What is the nature of the organization? Is it a charity? If so, where is it registered?
• What is the structure of the organization? Does it have a board of directors? Who manages its funds?
• Has it been discussed in the media? By media, I mean reputable journals, newspapers of major cities, television interviews and so forth.
• Does it have any formal ties to other organizations, either national or international (e.g., Amnesty International, Red Cross, Red Crescent)?

The sections naming individuals will have to go, and I will remove them tonight. Only individuals that the organization can demonstrate it has helped should be mentioned in the article; someone who was executed 10 years before the organization existed should not be named in the article. As well, the supporters section needs to be severely pruned; only supporters who have "blue" links should be included.

As a start for the media discussions, this link will be useful. [1] Please search for additional ones.

--Risker (talk) 05:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I have spent the better part of the day searching for additional references for this article, and I cannot find independent third party references that show this organization has a noteworthy footprint. Most references are to the Amnesty International project of the same or similar name, and Amnesty International does not make any references to the project described in this article. Unless other editors can come up with significant third party references specific to this particular campaign led by this particular group, I will propose this article be deleted. Risker (talk) 03:23, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

This organization claims to campaign for "putting an end to executions of minors in Iran." However, it is really about execution of adults who committed crimes as minors. It is very misleading since no child is being executed. Rather, adults are being executed for juvenile offenses. "Child Execution" is not an appropriate way of describing this situation. It claims that 2 Afghan boys were executed in Iran as reported by BBC. When you look at the BBC report in Persian, it only says that the boys were sentenced to death. No mention of execution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.168.119 (talk) 08:15, 13 January 2008 (UTC)