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Contents 1 Virgin? 2 Italian? 3 Removed 40-year-old virgin poster 4 Early Career 5 Italian? 6 Frat packer 7 Notable Roles 8 1962 or 1963? 9 Removed some humorous vandalism 10 Images - Free or not? 11 Birthplace 12 look alike 13 Salary 14 Terrible Photo 15 Alert: Image nominated for deletion 16 Table broken

[edit] Virgin?

The IMDB says he's still a virgin despite being married. Does anyone know if this is true? I just haven't seen a good source, like an interview or article (and the IMDB in these cases is hardly a good source).Pirella 22:48, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Italian?

The IMDB says he's Italian-American and that his original surname is "Carrelli" or some such thing. Does anyone know if that's true? I just haven't seen a good source, like an interview or article (and the IMDB in these cases is hardly a good source).Vulturell 22:48, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

RE: Yeah, he actually said in an interview he was italian, I can't recall where exactly. So between himself and Imdb, I'm sure his real name is Carelli and he his italian.- 2/18/06

Was it a television interview, or something online? Vulturell 18:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

It would depend on if and when the name was changed- if his grandfather or parents changed it, his real name is still Carell.Saxophobia 12:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Well. His mother's née is Koch, which is definitely not Italian (Koch => German for cook), and Carell could also be a Dutch name since there was a famous Dutch comedian named Rudi Carell. He is surely no 100% Italian.

Rudi Carell was the stage name of Rudolf Kesselaar, Carell is not a Dutch name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.94.203.178 (talk) 03:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed 40-year-old virgin poster

I have removed the "40 year old virgin" poster from this article, as it is copyrighted. Fair use is believed to apply to movie posters used in articles about their own movie, but use in a article about an actor is probably not acceptable. If anyone disagrees please feel free to Let me know or post here. -Lanoitarus 09:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

The poster is notable as virgin was the movie that arguably made Carell the well-known celebrity he is today. The idea that Universal Pictures would sue Wikipedia because Carell's article had the poster image is ridiculous. --DrBat 00:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Carell is the only thing featured on that poster besides text. The poster was one of the most talked about, every interview for the movie I saw with Carell had them talking about the poster with him. It's still fair use, it's a movie he starred in and easily qualifies. It definately belongs in the article. --TheTruthiness 00:53, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Early Career

He was in Melinda and Melinda after Bruce Almighty and Anchorman, which are listed so they appear to have occured later in his career.

[edit] Italian?

See discussion above. There don't seem to be any good sources that say he's either Italian-American or specify the "Carello" last name (i.e. IMDB is not a good source, and neither is that un-official "Office" site that copies the IMDB's trivia) Mad Jack 07:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I found something interesting on this site regarding surname Carello in Italy and Usa. http://gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=CARELLO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=C http://www.gens-us.net/map/genera.html?cognome=CARELLO I'm sure that Steve Carell have italian origin.-- anonymous

I know this isn't considered a reliable source but I just wanted to mention this because it's a fun memory for me. I remember one "Even Stephven" on The Daily Show where Carell "exposed" Colbert by revealing that his real name is ColberT not Col-bear. This has since been revealed as true. Colbert then "exposed" Carell by showing one of his old headshots and revealed that his real name was Carello. The headshot looked real but I have no proof the name wasn't altered. But I remember specifically Colbert saying "He tells you the news but he'd probably prefer to tell you 'I like the spicy meat-a-ball!'" MrBlondNYC 09:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

You know what, could this whole "Carello" story have originated from this joke? I don't think there's any question that he was born under "Carell", but I can imagine a viewer assuming the above was fact and adding it to the IMDB, and so on... Mad Jack 08:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Frat packer

the frat pack article does not list him as a primary member we should add him as such and update the flimography -ishmaelblues

[edit] Notable Roles

Little Miss Sunshine, no matter how good a movie you think it is, is not one of Carell's notable roles. He first acheived fame and success on The Daily Show, The 40-Year Old Virgin was a huge success with tons of ads and a much-talked about poster on which Carell is highly featured, and he won a Golden Globe for The Office. LMS, while having a large per-theatre gross, has only made $5.6 million and has barely been advertised. You, Me and Dupree has made 12.5 times more, and would anyone say that's a notable role for Owen Wilson, Kate Hudson, Matt Dillon or Michael Douglas? LMS is barely a blip on the notability radar- it doesn't matter if you think the movie sucks or rocks, it's not a notable part of Carell's career. His role in Anchorman is far more notable, but that also isn't included in the infobox. --TheTruthiness 04:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Truthiness, I must point out that Little Miss Sunshine:

1. Had the highest P.T.A. gross for 16 days in a row.
2. Is receiving a lot of free media in preparation for its wide release; i.e., Abigail Breslin (ain't she just cuter than cute) on the Leno show.
3. Has received almost unanimous favorable critical acclaim.
4. Is getting Oscar buzz (specifically, but limited to, Steve Carell).

So I think that Carell's portrayal of Frank Hoover in L.M.S. is notable. It will be listed in the infobox sooner or later. The question is when? You seem to be a Wikipedian who has a significant interest in Carell's article, so I will leave it to you (and/or other Wikipedians) as to when to add it. --72.82.220.217 05:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with User:TheTruthiness here. The film may be great, but it has not had mass appeal to an audience to be recognized as a notable role. He is still early in his career, and many of his roles are notable. Now when the film heads for wide release and Steve Carell's role becomes more well-known or he gets an Emmy for his role than it is likely it can be added. But it is not necessary to automatically assume that his role in this film is notable. --Nehrams2020 06:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Even then, the infobox is not meant to be a long filmography, it should be 2-3 roles only. So LMS would have to be more notable than another entry in the infobox to bump it out. As well, PTA isn't really relevant when it's in maybe 5% of theatres across the country, and only for 2 weeks. It might be considered an artsy success in a few select cities, but that's not a real indicator of if it will do well across the country or the world. Any idiot can get on the Tonight Show these days, tons of crappy nothing movies have had stars be on various talk shows. Critics are only a small part of the movie-viewing public, and that alone doesn't make a role notable. Tons of movies & actors in movies get Oscar buzz, but few ever pan out- especially at this time of year. The Academy is notorious for forgetting anything released before December. If gets nominated for an Oscar or something, then sure we'll bump The Daily Show out- but that's a loooooooooong ways away. --TheTruthiness 07:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1962 or 1963?

What year was he born?

1962, as far as I can tell.[1] --Fallout boy 04:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Both years show up in Google searches; I think 1963 though. This American-Statesman article says that on August 16, 2005, he turned 42, which would make his birth year 1963. I'm going to change it back. Schi 23:06, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I would rather trust IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0136797/

[edit] Removed some humorous vandalism

"+ On teusday, november 21st, 1463, Steve Carrel gave birth to a baby. Unfortunately, that baby was a seagull-lizard hybrid baby that spit acid. Steve had a choice to make; throw the his only child in the river and save lives, OR, live his parental life in secrecy. Steve's baby was found dead in the river on thursday"

BabuBhatt 17:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It's good that you got rid of that, although quite funny

[edit] Images - Free or not?

It is not necessarily true that images need only be free in the infobox. As they are promotional material they are published to promote either the character in the production or the production itself, not the actor. As such they are not free to promote the actor. A number of these have been to mediation and the only ones that have been allowed have been for iconic characters, notably James Bond. If you wish to take this to mediation then I would be glad to. (Quentin X 16:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC))

The images are being used to illustrate the actor's roles in the movies, not the actor himself. --DrBat 16:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

But they are on the actor's page and are, therefore, illustrating the actor. (Quentin X 16:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC))

But they're not there just to show a picture of Carell.--DrBat 17:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

But that is exactly what they are doing. (Quentin X 17:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC))

They're there to illustrate his roles in the movies; there is no possible to way to have a free image from the movie. --DrBat 17:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Look, we can argue this until we're blue in the face. Bottom line is, according to the history of Wikipedia, they are not allowed to be used on the actor's page. If you wish to put it to arbitration then please say so. If not then please do not put them back on the page. (Quentin X 17:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC))

Fine, put it in arbitration.--DrBat 18:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birthplace

Steve Carell was born at Emerson Hospital in Concord, MA, not Acton, MA

[edit] look alike

Do you think we should put a trivia and mention he looks a lot like President Ahmadinejad of Iran?

[edit] Salary

The Office (Seasons 1, 2) - $76,000 an episode Evan Almighty - $50,000,000 The 40-Year-Old Virgin - $500,000,000

I doubt he made 50 million for Evan almighty (though that would explain the huge budget) Since it was reported he made 5 million I thought.

Also, I really really doubt that he made 500 million for 40 year old virgin since it was his first staring role and the budget was only 26 million... 198.133.139.5

[edit] Terrible Photo

Don't we have anything not so blurry?

It's not the greatest photo, but when you need to rely on free images, this is currently the best we have. We just have to keep asking photographers who have better pictures if they are willing to release an image or two for the article. --Nehrams2020 22:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alert: Image nominated for deletion

Please be aware that the image of Carell on The Daily Show, [2], has been nominated for deletion from Wikipedia here: Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_August_24#Image:Carellcolbert_ds.jpg. All are encouraged to (a) particpate in the discussion there, (b) improve the image's fair use rationale, and (c) improve the article so the value of the image to it is clearer.—DCGeist 01:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table broken

The table is broken. I don't know how to fix it as table codes are like BAM a total mess to look at. JayKeaton 17:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)