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I removed the ref to Exeter Station - sorry but felt it was just too tangential to stay.

I agree. If it's to stay it should be on a separate page. Marnanel 00:14, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I removed it again. I cannot see why it needs to be here. It just isn't close enough to warrant a mention. 138.37.188.109 16:30, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Tŷddewi 2 St. David's, Ontario, Canada 3 Apostrophe? 4 Whithorn 5 English names, etc

[edit] Tŷddewi

Should it be "Tyddewi"? Do you need the accent in a compound word? I mean, nobody writes "Caernarfôn". 66.92.237.111 17:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

That's correct. See the 'Cymraeg' interwiki link for example. Gareth 15:25, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] St. David's, Ontario, Canada

Sadly, my home town of St. David's in Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario, Canada is not represented on Wikipedia, although it's neighbouring villiages of Queenston and Virgil are described. How do I create a page for St. Davids, Ontario, Canada, without making confusion with St.Davids, in the UK? Might it be appropriate to create a redirect page that arises from the search "St. Davids," at which Wikipedia visitors could choose:

• St.Davids, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom
• St.Davids, Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario, Canada

Thanks for your help. Can't wait to contribute to the page for my town. Cheers. --Marc Yarascavitch 09:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Just create a St David's, Ontario page for now and if Wikipedians think that a disambig page is needed then this page can be moved at a later date. Owain (talk) 10:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apostrophe?

I'm somewhat confused by the apostrophe included in the city name "St David's"? Surely the correct title is "St Davids"? Whether grammatically appropriate or not, the term I remember (having lived there for 5 years) was always used without the apostrophe. E.g. see the website www.stdavids.co.uk, or indeed any of the official websites at the bottom of the article page. I will therefore attempt to modify this site accordingly, though as new to wikipedia, not sure how to modify the title. DoctorMartin 18:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, odd. Ordnance Survey maps clearly have an apostrophe in ([1]), but locals seem to prefer to not have one (eg. [2], [3]). Google hits are inconclusive: "st davids" pembrokeshire [4] gets 211,000 whilst "st david's" pembrokeshire gets only 118,000 [5]; on the other hand, "st david's" wales gets 424,000 [6] whilst "st davids" wales gets only 346,000 [7]. Can anyone confirm the official name? If it is "St Davids", then pages will need to be moved as wikilinks are breaking all over the place at then moment. DWaterson 19:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

see: [8]: St David's, Pembrokeshire, for the city, Cathedral and St David's Head, but the Bishop of St Davids does not take the apostrophe Agathoclea 21:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

see also http://www.dca.gov.uk/constitution/city/citygj.htm#part6 for spelling. Agathoclea 20:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whithorn

I'm told Whithorn in south west Scotland is also a city. But is the population smaller? --MacRusgail 16:48, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I suspect you have been mislead. The places with City status in Scotland are Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Inverness, and Stirling. Cheers, DWaterson 17:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] English names, etc

I have changed Tyddewi, Cymru and St Dafydd (sic) to their English forms in this English Wikipedia article. There's plenty of opportunity to use Welsh in the rather rudimentary cy:Wicipedia article. I also took out the reference to Little England beyond Wales since, as the latter article shows, St David's is not in it. . . . .LinguisticDemographer 16:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)