User talk:Sparafucil

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Contents 1 Welcome from the Opera Project 2 Replansky 3 Image tags 4 Mathis der Maler 5 Genji monogatari 6 The opera corpus 7 Macbeth (disambiguation) 8 The opera corpus corrections 9 Casanova's Homecoming 10 WikiProject Contemporary music 11 Hans Bethge 12 King Harald's Saga 13 Tenebre 14 Please don't leave your notes on template pages 15 Your opinion Please 16 Brasil vs Brazil

[edit] Welcome from the Opera Project

Welcome too from the Opera Project. Do join us. We always need a hit-man or two! -- Kleinzach 01:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, and a belated hello. It's taken me this long to find this page!Sparafucil 08:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Replansky

Hi, the template you used (sources) is a redirect. The target of the redirect has been changed, it used to be "unreferenced", hence the change. I have fixed up the categories: wrong brackets. Rgds Rich Farmbrough, 10:45 5 July 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Image tags

I left a question on my talk page. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 10:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mathis der Maler

Thanks for the note; I fixed the mistake. Best, DJRafe 02:00, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genji monogatari

You are absolutely right! I've moved it to English-language operas. I think there is a Japanese version but that needs checking. -- Kleinzach 00:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The opera corpus

Hi. I see you are adding to the list of future articles which is great. Can I make a couple of requests? Could we possibly follow the existing format, with dates for composers but not works, and works in alphabetical order. Also ideally if you could add new works to the stats that would be helpful as we are trying to look at the project quantitatively as well as qualitatively. Thanks and best wishes. -- Kleinzach 10:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Macbeth (disambiguation)

For edits to disambiguation pages, such as this one, please refer to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)#Piping. Thanks! Ewlyahoocom 04:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for drawing my attention; I had to read exception 3 several times to figure out that it is not in fact an exception! I still think my revision of the original piping is slightly more elegant than yours, per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)#Break rules ;-) Best, Sparafucil 05:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you feel that those articles should be renamed? Something like Macbeth (Verdi opera), Macbeth (Bloch opera), and Macbeth (Sciarrino opera)? Ewlyahoocom 05:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd prefer [[Macbeth (Verdi)]], [[Otello (Verdi)]] and [[Falstaff (Verdi)]] myself, but people usually think of Verdi anyway when they see (opera) and the names are in accord with the permissive Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera#Operas: avoiding ambiguity. See also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Opera#Disambiguation.Sparafucil 08:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The opera corpus corrections

Hi. I've just been through the last series of additions you made to the opera corpus and (to be frank) I've found a lot of mistakes: mislinks to wrong pages, missing punctuation and italics, wrong capitalization etc. I've now cleaned it all up but I would be very grateful if you could have a look at the edit histories to see what I have done so that we can perhaps avoid the same thing happening again.

One really important thing on WP is to always check a link after you have made it so that you know it is going to the right page and not one on Greek mysthology or whatever.

I hope you won't feel too discouraged about this. Let me know if there is anything you don't understand and I will try to help. Best -- Kleinzach 15:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I see you are now changing the Lully opera entries on The opera corpus. Can you tell me why? I don't understand what you are trying to do there. What is the point? Can you please explain. -- Kleinzach 02:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not deliberately out to step on your toes; it's just not very clear what you want. I replaced red links like Isis (opera) with working links to extant articles Isis (Lully), and you've changed them back. Would you prefer [[Isis (Lully)|Isis (opera)]]? If there's to be a change from the permissive naming policy here, to one of always having at least one disambig. with (opera), it might be worth discussing first.Sparafucil 08:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

My mistake on Isis (Lully) - I thought, as presumably you did originally, that the article didn't exist. What do I want? Well I'd appreciate it if you could follow the format of The opera corpus so I don't have to clean up after your ammendments. That's reasonable, no? Regarding your last point, I am not sure why you call it permissive. We have a clear policy of using the form Richard (opera) when there is a non-opera article on Richard. If you look through The opera corpus you will find dozens of examples. I didn't invent this policy. It dates back to the beginning of the project. Changing it would entail a lot of work. Hope that's clear, if not please say so. Best. -- Kleinzach 13:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

The policy seems perfectly clear; it says either (opera) or (Composer) may be used, expressing no preference, yes? And I take it you disagree with it. I do too, and would prefer to confine (opera) to cases like Mathis der Maler (opera), where it makes sense. Sparafucil 00:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

You are misreading the policy. As it explains: "Macbeth (opera) refers to the work by Verdi to distinguish it from Macbeth which is the play by Shakespeare. Likewise Otello (Rossini) is differentiated from the more famous work of Verdi which is simply Otello." (I've changed the 'may be' to 'are' so that the first sentence can't be misinterpreted.) If you check the actual titles of opera articles you will find that this is exactly what has been followed. If you disagree with this, and are willing to do the necessary work implementing any change, then you can raise the matter. (I don't understand your point about Mathis der Maler.) -- Kleinzach 01:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not 'may' that is ambiguous as much as 'or'. As to Mathis, it redirects to Mathis (opera), where one finds a link to Mathis (symphony), also of course by Hindemith. I cant off-hand think of more such operatic examples, but it would make little sense to have Nutcracker (Tchaik) vs Nutcracker (suite). The problem I would have with moving all the (Lully) pages is that the rule you apply necesitates a judgment about 'more famous', easy to make in Verdi's case but a little dicier with Miss Julie, where use of (opera) seems to have caused needless confusion and a little cleaning up work of my own. Sparafucil 10:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

The problem with Miss Julie(s) was that someone had combined all the operas on one page. That was the problem - it had nothing to do with the eventual titles when the page was divided up! Regarding Mathis der Maler (opera) I still don't get your point. It appears that Mathis der Maler (opera) should be Mathis der Maler because there is no disambigaution necessary. (We don't put (opera) after every title!) I'll try to have a look at this later. -- Kleinzach 10:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I've left you a note at Talk:Mathis_der_MalerSparafucil 08:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Casanova's Homecoming

Casanova's Homecoming was tagged as unreferenced, evidently by the bot. In the case of works of fiction, a publisher is usually sufficient; this article already had a discography. best, Sparafucil 08:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

No, Brownhaired Girl tagged the article. And if it seems excessive, have a look a the talk page, one of the two unsourced dates in the article was wrong. Cheers, Rich Farmbrough, 08:54 1 November 2007 (GMT).

My mistake. Thanks for ending my confusion over how a bot would make such decisions!

[edit] WikiProject Contemporary music

Hi Sparafucil, Thanks for joining WikiProject Contemporary music! As you can see it’s a new and small project so far. I haven’t been promoting it as I should because I’ve been busy in real life lately, however with three members it looks like we could be ready to roll. If you know of any other users who could be interested in the project please let them know about it. My current objective is to get together a list of categories the project pages would fall under as suggested on the talk page. I look forward to working with you. --S.dedalus 03:32, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hans Bethge

Interestingly enough the image does show up on the de.wiki page! There should be a way to move it to the commons. I'm also puzzled that the other image does work. Sparafucil 01:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry not to have replied earlier. I would think that you could upload the German wiki image providing an explanation why the picture is out of copyright. Perhaps the old one was deleted because nobody explained? But I'm not sure of the circumstances because I couldn't find the record of the deletion. BTW did you see my comment about fixing the Krenek operas navigation box? If it's chronological it needs dates.-- Kleinzach (talk) 06:57, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

The old one was never deleted and is still in the dewiki article; there just seems to be a German commons that cant be directly linked to from English WP. Sparafucil (talk) 22:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] King Harald's Saga

Please see talk page regarding italics you have just reverted. -- Kleinzach (talk) 23:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tenebre

I saw your post on the Tenebre talk page, but I thought I'd let you know here. Tenebre would be allowed at any parish or chapel under the guidelines of Summorum Pontificum. (Notre Dame now has a weekly Tridentine Mass thanks to Summorum Pontificum.) According to Summorum Pontificum any priest may hold services from the liturgical books in effect in 1962 (including the Roman Breviary in use in 1962, which includes Tenebre). Furthermore, statments recently made by the Ecclesia Dei Commission have stated that some readings in the Extraordinary Form may be read in the vernacular, and so you may even be able to have the traditional Tenebre with some of the readings and psalsms in English if your pastor sees fit. Dgf32 (talk) 07:37, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't leave your notes on template pages

Please don't leave your notes on template pages (e.g. Template:Gounod operas). As explained previously users are encouraged to use sandboxes for personal notes. Thank you. -- Kleinzach (talk) 08:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

This is a reminder that you still have your notes on this page. Please take them off and keep your notes in a sandbox. --Kleinzach (talk) 00:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your opinion Please

I would like your opinion at to the debate going on here [[1]] at the WikiProject Theatre.Smatprt (talk) 01:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brasil vs Brazil

Thank you for the information. The reference I have at hand uses an "s". "Saudades do Brasil" is the correct Portuguese spelling, but Milhaud may very well have used a "z". I would have to check a more reputable source. I like your User Name! Hrdinsky (talk) 00:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)