Talk:Soukous

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Contents 1 African Rumba 2 Question of naming 3 Questions and doubts 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Franco5.jpg

[edit] African Rumba

Why is African Rumba being redirected to Soukous? These are two different genres.

[edit] Question of naming

Is soukous distinct from the "congo" music played in Latin America? --Smack (talk) 01:57, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, there is a distinct "Congo music" in Latin America.--Ezeu 17:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Do you think it's appropriate for the disambig at Congo to link here? --Smack (talk) 05:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, because soukous is called congo in some West African countries. --Ezeu 08:31, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Soukous should be more popular.--King of the Dancehall 20:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Questions and doubts

First, let me say this is a very informative article, and I like it. However, when reading it, some questions and doubts came to mind. I think answering them would make this article even better.

1. Does anyone object to taking out the Lingala/Congo information in the first paragraph so that the second paragraph isn't so redundant?
2. How is ndombolo pronounced - ndómbolo, ndombólo, or ndomboló? What does it mean and where did the word come from?
3. "By the 1950s, big bands had become the preferred format..." Versus what format? Did soukous really exist before big bands?
4. "...some artists who had been groomed in the bands of Franco Luambo and Grand Kalle formed their own groups" Were they really groomed? (Definition of "to groom": To prepare, as for a specific position or purpose.) Or did they just figure they were talented and popular enough to start performing on their own?
5. "fusing elements of Congolese folk music with soul music..." What elements? I'd like to be specific so that a reader could possibly recognize soukous when hearing it because they know what elements to listen for.
6. Did anyone else notice that "fast-paced" or some version of it is used a lot in this article? (Eight times.) How about quick? Rapid? Electric? Accelerated? Lively? Energetic? Brisk?
7. In the 1960s-1970s section: "Other greats of this period include Koffi Olomide..." According to the French Wikipedia article, Koffi didn't record his first album until 1983. Was he really a "great" during the 1960s and 1970s? Were Tshala Muana and Wenge Musica popular during this time, or should this whole sentence be moved to the 1980s section?
8. Whoops! There is no 1980s section! What happened? Nothing? You can't have forgotten Mario!!! Bolembi ye?
9. In the ndombolo section: "The fast [I already took out "paced"] soukous music currently dominating dance floors..." Can we replace currently with something more specific? In other words, when did "currently" start? Perhaps information from the French Wikipedia article on Wenge Musica? Since 1996 as per the text of Reference 8?

--DBlomgren 07:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

It is known commonly known as Lingala and Congo in other parts of Africa, and not as Soukous, so having those terms in the first paragraph is warranted. As for the rest, I agree that clarification is needed. --Ezeu 08:31, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

But it's redundant. See how it's repeated in the second paragraph? I'll take it out in a few days.DBlomgren 02:33, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Franco5.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)