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Archives
May 10, 2005 - November 10, 2005 November 11, 2005 - February 11, 2006 February 12, 2006 - October 10, 2006 October 11, 2006 - January 14, 2007 January 15, 2007 - May 7, 2008

This is an archive of SmthManly's talk page between November 11, 2005 and February 11, 2006. All messages received here were received under the username User:PRueda29. For any messages sent after February 11, 2006 or before November 11, 2005, please check this user's talk page

Contents 1 Sysop 2 IRC 3 Socks 4 Merci beaucoup 5 User:68.198.139.128 6 Health of Mice 7 Wikipedia problems 8 Security camera footage as PD 9 Miami Sunrise picture 10 Yyrt 11 Wikipedia meetup:Tampa 12 Christmas article 13 Greetings from the United Federation of Planets 14 WP:TFA 15 Wikibreak 16 Things for you to check when you get back ('cause I'm not sure) 17 Miami Federals (copied from hydnjo's) 18 instrument in band 19 Thanks! 20 SPEEEEEDY deletion on "Luciano Rodriguez" 21 Andrew 22 My failed RFA :) 23 kaos endemico 24 BD2412's RFA 25 BT Washington 26 Memory Alpha 27 My RFA 28 New category 29 High School 30 Pilot Cat 31 Memory Alpha User 32 Brian Gerber 33 Owl Society 34 Wikipedia:WikiProject Florida 35 STFU 36 malo's RfA 37 copyvios 38 Columbine High School massacre - a suggestion 39 Rfa thanks 40 Yes 41 Qwertysoup 42 Userpage protection 43 History of Miami, Florida 44 WP: SPOKEN: Columbine_High_School_massacre 45 WP: SPOKEN: Columbine_High_School_massacre II 46 WP: Admin Intervention again Vandalism 47 Message to Thor: Re - Columbine 48 Columbine Edits 49 Image Tagging Image:MichaelKropHighSchool.jpg 50 Re Krop School Newspaper 51 Education in the United States 52 "Wikipedia is not an encyclopædia in wiki"

Sysop

Congratulations! You are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the administrators' how-to guide helpful. Good luck. Angela. 02:02, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 02:04, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Congrats, now get IRC and join the IRC Cabal. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:11, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Congrats I knew I made a good choice --JAranda | watz sup 03:25, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Congrats!--AAAAA 04:40, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

IRC

Well the most used client seems to be mIRC, look at the bottom of the article for a place to download it from. If you get it you can also grab a script so you can click bracketed links. I myself use IceChat which is a bit better, but there's no script for it, so you'd have to type bracketed stuff yourself. Pick either one, and look at WP:IRC for extra help. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Socks

It's not me. --SPUI (talk) 02:36, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup

Hi, PRueda. Thanks for your vote of support on my nomination to become an administrator. I passed, and my floor rag has since been bestowed upon me. Please let me know if you need me to help with anything in particular! —BrianSmithson 16:14, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

User:68.198.139.128

I personally don't think it's fair to block without a warning, and the last warning before his vandalism was 5 days old. I won't remove your block, and I don't have a problem with it, just not what I would have done. Congrats on adminship btw. -Greg Asche (talk) 01:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Health of Mice

is it possible that you can create a page that can be added to by anyone? I want it to be set up like a forum. The subject is mice health questions and answers. I want the opening to be like this.

This page is here so that you can ask and answer questions on the health of mice.

When this is done can you email me? mb103749@gmail.com

My wikipedia account is. 103749

Wikipedia problems

It seems that you're not the only one with the problems, so I would suspect that there might be a bug with the MediaWiki software (this is a guess, for I never ran into this error until now, and only with Firefox).

The Pan Am article had run into problems with vandalism (to the point where someone apparently placed a vprotect tag on it), though there were some positive edits (especially by one who actually knew people who were killed on Pan Am 103).

By the way, congratulations with your adminship. Though someone asked whether I would be interested in adminship, at the moment I am just happy to get some of my articles to FA (currently it is the University of Michigan, which has few comments so far). Pentawing 03:10, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Security camera footage as PD

I don't think we should be making legal arguments as to copyright that don't have precedent in the courts. Please see my comment at Image talk:Eric harris dylan klebold.jpg. Thanks.--Pharos 03:13, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Miami Sunrise picture

Hello, just got your message regarding that Miami pictures. I'll try to follow the instruction and put a tag on it so that it is not deleted. You can also contact me at ntzolov@hotmail.com Thanks Nick

Yyrt

...had history that didn't look speedyable. It certainly wasn't an A1 (which is the only guidance your entry in the deletion log provides). We shouldn't reward people who blank articles by speedying them. —Cryptic (talk) 01:21, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia meetup:Tampa

I'm writing to let you know that the Tampa meetup has officially been announced -- Wikipedia:Meetup/Tampa2 →Raul654 04:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Christmas article

Thanks for informing me about the Today's featured article procedure - I will certainly take this new info on board. Brisvegas 06:12, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Greetings from the United Federation of Planets

{{User:Cool Cat/Wikipediholic|613}}

You may find the folowing template of interest :) --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 02:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

WP:TFA

I've nominated articles for TFA before they were Featured before, and nobody complained. I want to get it in for December 5th, and it'll be featured by then. Please note that the request is on a discussion page; you can probably object to the article with the rationale of "not yet featured", but I don't see the harm in nominating it—if it doesn't become featured, then it can't be on the main page. But it will be featured then. If Raul654 objects, I'll be fine with leaving out the nomination until it is featured, though he hasn't objected in the past. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-20 23:18

Wikibreak

Copied from hydnjo talk (just to add context):

Hey, I'm going to be taking a wikibreak since there are a lot of stressful things going on in my life, and wanted to know if you could take care of adding the {{mainpage date to come|Date}} templates on new chosen articles while I'm gone. Thanks! -- PRueda29 ^Ptalk29 23:56, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh and, not to be a bother, but can you keep an eye on my watchlist, too... it's listed on my userpage. Thanks! -- PRueda29 ^Ptalk29 23:56, 20 November 2005 (UTC) 23:57, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I just took a peek at your stress-meters, no problem - go away - and don't worry, I'll look after the featured articles. Even if I miss "...to come" I'll not miss "FA date", I promise. My own watchlist has about 200 entries so adding your's will be no big deal. Just to make sure I have them all, put them in a list on my talk page otherwise I'll assume that they are the articles listed on your user page. Please take a break without worrying about the the Wikitasks that you have been tending. I'm sure I'll know when you're back so best wishes resolving your personal stuff and thanks for asking. ;-) Heidi and Joe, --hydnjo talk 01:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

That's all of them, the only ones that aren't listed are the school articles attached to M-DCPS, since there are too many to place on there. All I need is someone to watch and make sure the articles aren't vandalized, many of them are watched by several users so those are covered, but there are some (like most of the M-DCPS articles) that are probably watched only by me. My process for adding the templates to the new chosen articles is to go to Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 24, 2005, and add it to my watchlist, then when Raul654 places the next article on there, I add the template and go to the archive, then do the same for every article chosen and when he's done adding, I unwatch the now filled in date and watch the next empty date. Thanks again for helping me, I just have too many things going on to have to watch for vandalism and get into edit wars, LOL. -- PRueda29 ^Ptalk29 01:47, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Like I said - go away. We all need a break now and again, you know, stuff happens. I'll look after things so don't worry. Of course the way WP has been behaving lately it's a wonder that anyone can get anything done around here (kidding ... just kidding)  ;-) --hydnjo talk 01:56, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

OK, I've added the following to my watchlist:

• Columbine High School
• Ernesto Cortissoz International Airport
• Fine Air
• Florida
• Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport
• Gallatin Field Airport - Bozeman, Montana
• Jacksonville International Airport
• Kahului Airport
• Leonardo Da Vinci International Airport
• List of victims of the Columbine High School massacre
• Madrid Barajas International Airport
• Macarthur Airport
• Miami, Florida
• Miami-Dade County Public Schools - and several daughter articles.
• Miami International Airport
• Nassau International Airport
• Palm Beach International Airport
• Rafael Nuñez International Airport
• Tampa International Airport
• Tri-Rail

a few more to go...

• Columbine conspiracy theories
• Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold

• OK, that should do it. Let me know if I've missed any. Go take a nap.  ;-)) --hydnjo talk 02:39, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Aviacsa would be the only other one; unless you already have it on your list? Thanks again! I'll be removing Wiki from my homepage now to discourage myself. Talk to you again around December 10. -- PRueda29 ^Ptalk29 04:23, 21 November 2005 (UTC) P.S (You're two people right? LOL.)

Ok got it. BTW, I'm one person and Heidi is another so I guess that makes us two people. Whereas Heidi is blind we try to make do with one account. ;-) --hydnjo talk 04:41, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

• Hey, you've been busy around here today. Change of plans? --hydnjo talk 02:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Things for you to check when you get back ('cause I'm not sure)

1. this one at Miami, Florida ( -- hydnjo talk 21:21, 24 November 2005 (UTC))

Hey, I was just making a list of the ones I wasn't sure of. Take a rest willya! The forsurevandalas will be dealt with. Geesh... hydnjo talk 23:32, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

The IP explained his removal in the article's talk page, and a google search reveals no mention of the Miami Federals except on Wikipedia mirror sites, so it looks good; back to my hiatus. Happy Thanksgiving! -- PRueda29 ^Ptalk29 22:00, 24 November 2005

And a very happy Thanksgiving to you and all who are celebrating with you. Nighty night now ;-) --hydnjo talk 23:36, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Miami Federals (copied from hydnjo's)

The IP explained his removal in the article's talk page, and a google search reveals no mention of the Miami Federals except on Wikipedia mirror sites, so it looks good; back to my hiatus. Happy Thanksgiving! -- PRueda29 ^Ptalk29 22:00, 24 November 2005

If I feel that you're looking over my shoulder then why am I bothering at all? --hydnjo talk 01:36, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

== Miami Federals ==

The IP explained his removal in the article's talk page, and a google search reveals no mention of the Miami Federals except on Wikipedia mirror sites, so it looks good; back to my hiatus. Happy Thanksgiving! -- PRueda29 ^Ptalk29 22:00, 24 November 2005

Hi. I'm sorry if I made it seem as if I am watching over your shoulder, but I'm not. I came here to research a topic for a school essay and I had a new message and thought it was you asking a question, but was unaware it was a list you were making, so I answered it. I tried to keep my edits down to a minimum, but since I am still addicted to this place, I can't help it. Also, starting Saturday there will be no way for me to edit anymore because I will no longer have internet at home (I'm moving, so it's being cut off). On top of moving, I have school exams coming up, and three other huge problems all tied together which involves a legal procedure (court case) in which I am a witness and all that has been stressing me out lately (exams, plus moving, plus problems and court case). I decided to leave Wiki for a while because I found myself stressed out over edit wars, and vandalism when I didn't need that stress right now (normally i wouldn't mind, it's part of editing), and since the court dates and exams all coincide with the first week of December, I decided to put December 10 (which should be a date when everything has returned back to normal) as my return date. Since I still have internet, I do come around Wiki sometimes just to watch, or as i mentioned, to read an article but that won't be occuring anymore as of Saturday because it'll be nearly impossible to come on at all. Wiki used to take up about 85% of my internet time, now it's down to 5% and that's just cause my addiction to this place has me coming back for more! LOL. As you can see, I've kept my edits to a minimum for the past two days and after this, I'll be stopping completely because tomorrow I have errands to run for my moving, saturday I'm moving, and I won't have any internet until December 1 at the least. Then, i'll have exams and the court proceedings, and once all that's past, I'll be able to come back. I apologize again for sounding like I was watching over you, and I trust your judgement in editing and dealing with vandals since you are a more experienced user than I, but I just thought you had a question for me and didn't realize it was a list you were making for once I returned. I hope you aren't upset with me, and I am glad you are willing to help. Thanks. -- PRueda29 ^Ptalk29 02:03, 25 November 2005 (UTC) P.S.- I might make one or two edits if they're necessary tonight, but after that I', definately gone (since I have no choice). Thanks again!

I can't believe you wrote all that - I didn't even read it before making this post. I just saw the sea of keystrokes and decided to come here instead. I'll read it tomorrow. Please let me know if you're on vacation or not. I'd like to help out but I have my own watchlist to watch. If you really need my help well then I'll be glad to help. Hey, PRueda29 are you hearin' what I'm sayin'? hydnjo talk 02:31, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

• Hey, welcome back. I've been feeling paranoid that I'd miss something bad on your watchlist and get yelled at! Nah, just kidding as I was when I said "... why am I bothering ...". I said that to help you get your butt out of here and do whatever. Glad to have been of service and don't hesitate if you need help with anything. BTW, unless I was really asleep here, things were pretty quiet. One or two that someone else had already jumped on ... Hey! did you have someone else ... Oh, nevermind.  ;-) --hydnjo talk 23:40, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

instrument in band

What instrument, or instrument did you play in your 7 years in band? —Preceding unsigned comment added by asshat (talk • contribs)

Thanks!

Now that my RfA is fully and officially completed, I want to thank you for your support. As far as I tell, you could still vote, and I appreciate it. ;-) -- SCZenz 19:03, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

SPEEEEEDY deletion on "Luciano Rodriguez"

Wow, thanks for being quick at deleting that stupid article =P ! Seems that people have nothing else better to do than to vandalise and glorify themselves these days. Anyway, thanks again! 199.111.230.195 03:27, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Andrew

Why did you make the changes you did to Hurricane Andrew? Many of them were wrong, so I reverted the entire revision you made. Please explain on Talk:Hurricane Andrew if you think this is in error. Jdorje 20:06, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I think it's all corrected now. I don't understand why people keep messing with the death tallies...there's one guy who always changes "26 direct, 39 indirect" to "65", for no apparent reason. Jdorje 20:45, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm not usually the one who reverts it...and it may not always be the same person. The latest is User:208.190.153.155. Jdorje 20:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

My failed RFA :)

Also delete that Miami picture as it's not sources. We could always find a better one later ;) --Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 03:12, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

kaos endemico

why you delete kaos endemico article?

BD2412's RFA

PRueda29, a strong Miami brotherhood thank you, for supporting my adminship bid - I'll do my best as an admin to help make the reality of Wikipedia rise to the level of the dream! BD2412 T 03:38, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

BT Washington

The current building is the second one built. I added "original Booker T. Washington Senior High School building" to the M-DCPS article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by johnnyjoe23 (talk • contribs)

Memory Alpha

Hi there. When you joined Memory Alpha, I noticed the part about Spanish Wikipedia and thought you might be interested to know that someone (I forgot who) was once considering a Spanish version of MA, but I don't think there were enough Spanish speakers around. Any chance you would be intereted if the idea resurfaced? Looks like your Wikiplate is full already! --Vedek Dukat ^Talk 00:32, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Well estoy seguro que va tener adminship pronto if lo comenzamos. Pero no creo que hay muchos hablantes de espanol que disfrutan star trek, no? Y la mejor pueden hablar ingles y dicen "por que lo necesitamos" en mi opinion... But I don't know --Vedek Dukat ^Talk 00:47, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Es un buen idea, pero "Viaje de las Estrellas" just doesn't have the same ring to it as "Star Trek". Un problema you probably noticed, mi nivel de hablar español es lo que usan en el barrio. Se matan la lenguage, por eso es "Spanglish". Pero podemos buscar (maňana) al wiki. Cual es tu favorito "viaje"? Obviamente mi especialidad es DS9 y no quiero un wiki donde uno o dos reciben todo nuestra atencón. --Vedek Dukat ^Talk 09:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Ya te mandé un email. --Vedek Dukat ^Talk 20:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Hueles como caca de vaca. --Vedek Dukat ^Talk 03:47, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Mais oui and good night. --Vedek Dukat ^Talk 08:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

My RFA

Thank you for voting for me at my RFA, which closed with a 24/1/1 outcome. I will do my best in the position I now am in. Thanks again, and see you around Wikipedia!

--Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:56, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

New category

This may be of interest to you: [[Category:Wikipedians who are pilots]]. Best regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 16:58, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

High School

I am curious who you are? Did you go to MKHS. I see you were born in 1985. That means we went there the same year. -Zack Kranzler —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.214.17.5 (talk • contribs)

Pilot Cat

Thanks for pointing out or creating the category, but I have one question. I am only studying to be a pilot, and I'm not one yet, but I will be in about a year (maybe less, depends on when i take my solo flight). Can I still be in the category even with this technicality? -- PRueda29 ^Ptalk29 18:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

I say, heck yeah! Being a pilot means you've decided to be a pilot and taken steps to make it happen. You're currently a student pilot, which is a type of pilot, yes? Regard, CHAIRBOY (☎) 17:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Memory Alpha User

I know this has little to do with Wikipedia, but there is a user on Memory Alpha who uses your user name and claims that they are you. If you could respond yes or no that that user is or isn't you (while logged in, of course), that would be most helpful. So, are you the same person as User:PRueda29 on Memory Alpha?--Tim Thomason 22:16, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Brian Gerber

Hey!

I marked Brian Gerber as speedy, but decided to write a little explanation on the talk page. In the mean time, you deleted the page, but now there's a talk page with no article there. Sorry about that. --ParkerHiggins ^{( talk contribs )} 08:53, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Owl Society

Thanks for reverting the article, but it doesn't appear you went far enough. You just reverted it back to an earlier vandalism by the second vandal. The last legitimate, non-anonymous edit was done by User:Tom_harrison on 13:08, 13 December 2005. Can you revert it back to there? 130.91.117.210 00:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Florida

I have created a state wikiproject, Wikipedia:WikiProject Florida and I need help handling that as I really don't know what to do :p. Join it if you want and help set tasks etc. Thanks --Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 02:44, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

STFU

Ahem! The speedy deletion notice reminds administrators to check the article history for a very good reason, as exemplified here. Please check the article history in future. Uncle G 03:12, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

malo's RfA

copyvios

In any article, the first version should not be a copyvio 'coz the history would show it to be a copyvio. In WP:CV also, the instruction is to revert to the last non-copyvio version; if all are tainted, it is to be listed and then deleted. Please see Wikipedia:Association of Copyright Violation Hunting Wikipedians for an associated discussion. --Gurubrahma 09:00, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

You can have the non-copyvio material on the temporary subpage link which can be found on the copyvio notice (huge red link). Once the copyvio article and history is deleted, the noncopyvio material that you have re-written on the temporary page would be placed on the article page. As of now, there is a backlog on copyvio clearing and it may take upto 20 days for its clearing and deletion. You may want to work on the sub-page in the meanwhile. btw, of all the things floating around, the most dangerous to Wikipedia's survival is copyvios. Hence, if you find a copyvio in future, please see to it that you tag it appropriately as well as inform the original contributor. I have already done so in this case. --Gurubrahma 09:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Columbine High School massacre - a suggestion

I don't know if you read the Wikipedia Signpost recently (or seen something on the administrators' board), but there is a new feature that allows articles to be "partially protected," where only registered users can edit an article. Anonymous IP users are blocked from editing such articles. The reason why I mentioned this is that the Columbine High School massacre article has suffered repeated vandalism (whether misguided or intentional) from anons. Hence, if you wish you could reduce the constant reverting necessary by implementing this feature on the article. Let me know what you think about it (I read that the feature has been implemented on frequently edited articles such as George W. Bush and John Kerry). Pentawing 19:24, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

• From what I read of the feature's description, IP users and new registered users whose accounts are <= four days are blocked from editing. Once the four days have passed, the new registered user can then be able to edit the article. Pentawing 23:51, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
  • One reason I can think of for the "semi-protection" is that the article, which focuses on a major event that involved various controversial issues, has been subjected to numerous acts of vandalism, primarily by anonymous IP users. I also think placing a notice on the talk page would help to explain the situation in more detail. Pentawing 07:03, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Rfa thanks

Hello PRueda29. Thank you for supporting my Rfa! I will try my best to be a good administrator. Please ask me if you need any help. --a.n.o.n.y.m t 17:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes

Hi, yes I am the High Plains Drifter, but I often work on a slow computer at a relatives' house and don't bother to log in. I'm interested the geography of Florida and the American Southwest, and write articles on different subjects when I feel like it. Take care.

Qwertysoup

Hi there PRueda29, Im SWD316. I would like for you to join in of the conversation about the above user at Wikipedia talk:Are You a Wikipediholic Test about his possible fake score on the test. I contacted you because you were one of the top scorers on the test, so you could probably tell if the score is fake or not. We would appriciate your input. — Moe ε 21:17, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Userpage protection

Hi, I noticed that your userpage is protected, and has no recent vandalism. Protection policy says to avoid leaving these protected unneccessarily. Please leave any replies on my talk page. --Phroziac _. o º ^{O (♥♥♥♥ chocolate!)} 01:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Oops, boilerplate abuse. I meant that User:PRueda29/Infobox is protected! --Phroziac _. o º ^{O (♥♥♥♥ chocolate!)} 01:47, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I personally have no problem with move protection, though a user subpage template like that isn't very likely to get moved. :) --Phroziac _. o º ^{O (♥♥♥♥ chocolate!)} 01:52, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

History of Miami, Florida

Last week I separated the history part of the Miami page and I noticed that the History of Miami, Florida part has a higher chance of being a FA than the Miami page. I did some expansion on it but it still needs some help, especially with references, intro and images. I really need your help on that if you can. Thanks --Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 01:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Re History of Miami, Florida I created a intro similar to History of Alaska and History of Arizona per the peer review. A current image of Miami I may add in the end later. Thanks --Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 23:29, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

WP: SPOKEN: Columbine_High_School_massacre

Hey there!

Was hanging around and noticed that you were looking for a reader for Columbine_High_School_massacre. I've scanned the article and I think I can manage it.

• But first, I'd like to get some feedback on my production. I'd hate to record such a long article and have it suffer because of technical problems.
• Also, this looks to be a relatively long article. Do you think it's a good candidate for subdivision (in terms of the OGG files; not the article itself)?

Get back to me and I'll toss it on my list if you still need a volunteer. Ckamaeleon 08:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I work in Audacity. Do you want me to send you the downmixed OGG files? To clarify, this is for feedback, right? I already know how to upload files (I think-- though I can't find a way to write a tag to the OGG files, I am labelling them as I submit them).

If you want a sense of my voice and production quality, check out

and/or

.

As you can hear, there is sort of a weird reverb-y thing going on. Not sure what's causing it. I hate it. I wonder if it's one of the cleanup tools. I run decompression normalize (It automatically goes to -3dB, if I remember right. No way to change it, as I know), and I normalise compress it to about -13dB. Then I run noise reduction (usually at or near the lowest level). Is there a preferred order to do these steps in, btw?

I also have my mic gain boosted at the soundcard level. Maybe that's causing the problem?

UPDATE: Did some testing. The problem seems to be a combo of these:

• I had my speakers on during recording. They were feeding back into the mic.
• My mic vol. was in the red. Fixed it.
• My comp is positioned in a bare corner. Reverb from the room. Added foam padding to damper a bit. Ckamaeleon 11:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

But overall, I'm just happy to be recording. When I started this morning, I couldn't even get Audacity to recognize the mic input (a GNOME/Linux thing, I discovered). It's too bad recording takes so long to do. Ckamaeleon 08:43, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Also, you sound a bit nervous at the beginning, but you ease into it real well, I notice this by the fact that your sh and ch sounds (including endings like -tion, that sound like sh/ch) tend to run together with the vowels in the beginning, that's usually what people do when they're tense or nervous, but it's not a bad thing since I hear that all the time on spoken article recordings.

• Remember that this is only my second recording. I think it's hard to walk a line between speaking naturally and not speaking too quickly. It seems like I forgot about pacing when I got into it--but traded off with a more natural sound.

I had linux for a while, first knoppix, of course... I finally gave up and gave in to Windows... oh well.

• If you ever want to go back, there is a handy site that helps you choose a distro. I don't know what your technical background is like. I consider myself a "power user" in Windows. I installed Ubuntu_linux (one of the "easier" distros) and let me tell you, I'm still stumbling around. I'm drawing on old programming knowledge, Mac savvy, all sorts of stuff to figure it out. But it's not impossible. Just time-consuming to do things that "just work" in Win or even Knoppix.

Also, now I have LILO stuck on my boot sector...Any idea on how i can get rido of f-ing LILO? Sorry to get off topic.

• There IS an easy way. Working from my failing memory, you need a Win startup disk. You should boot to it and choose "Restore(Repair?) Master Boot Record" That should wipe Lilo off and replace it with Win boot code. If you've tried this to no avail, I'm sorry. I use GRUB. I tried LILO and it did horrible things. So I just reinstalled GRUB over it. The whole partitioning and install process was painless but I can't help but cringe wondering if I didn't secretly mess something up. LILO should reside in your MBR, so you might try Googling it for more details. Have you read this? (I have to chuckle at how Microsoft is so eager to help you rid yourself of LILO). Sorry that's not a whole lot of help.

Yeah, I'm about to head to bed, too. Should have been there 3 hours ago.Ckamaeleon 09:25, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

So not having the "official" licensed copy of XP is biting you in the butt, huh? That's one reason I got interested in Linux--don't have to worry about M$'s approval to use the software. Again, sorry I don't have a solution for you. Ckamaeleon 22:07, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

P.S. -- Thought you might be curious *grin* you'll find a handy progress meter on my talk page, just under the section heading. It's based on the TOC, but I was too lazy to try to figure out how to make the box only "x"width. I will eventually. Basically, anything struck out is recorded.... I am out of town for the weekend...but I happen to have some pro recording equipment here where I'm staying, so I may be able to re-record the whole thing... we'll see. I also need to read over the discussion on the article that I've started. In some ways, this was a bad article to read b/c it's still being heavily revised. But I know you've got an interest in it, since you've been putting so much work into it--and I agree that it's definately important enough to record.Ckamaeleon 22:12, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

re: heavy editing....Looking at the history again, you're right. Ckamaeleon 09:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm NOT planning on reading the "notes" section, mostly because it's hard to verbally correlate them to the parts of the text that they reference. And they don't make a whole lot of sense structurally without the sentences they reference to provide context. Also, it's a long section.

I do plan to read the references and external links, including the web addresses. Oh, I'm also going to read the infoboxes at the END of their section as "Infobox: Title". I agree with the commentator who said that they help keep track of the people in the paragraphs. Thoughts [about the Notes section]? Ckamaeleon 11:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

WP: SPOKEN: Columbine_High_School_massacre II

So I'm reading along (borrowing a NICE condenser mic for the weekend--hurray!) and It turns out there are about 6-10 student names that could be pronounced at least two different ways. Do you know where I might find definitive name pronunciations for the victims? I can give you a list, if you like. I mean, nobody likes it when you mess up their name, and we want Wikipedia to be an authority on this sort of thing, right? Ckamaeleon 09:08, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. Click here and scroll down a wee bit for the list. P.S.-- check the progress chart. Things will slow down this week b/c of class, but so far, so good. Ckamaeleon 11:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I've just replied on the thread in my talk page. Ckamaeleon 22:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC) P.S. --green talk page is a nice change.

Right. At the moment, it's just over 97 minutes long. But a lot of that is crap that will get cut out... like me repeating things like "on a grassy knoll to their left (next to the West Entrance of the school) eating lunch" until it sounds right. I don't know exactly how much of that will be removed, but it's safe to say it'll be about an hour, if not longer. BTW, the "feel" is close to a book-on-tape. It gets kind of intense at points. But I didn't want to read it deadpan all the way through. The idea is that it was a dramatic event.Ckamaeleon 13:16, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

No prob. Thanks for keeping me in touch w/ the changes, since I'm reading from a printout for this article (to help me mark up the pronunciation) and I won't see changes on the page.Ckamaeleon 17:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

WP: Admin Intervention again Vandalism

Copied from Tvaughn05's Talk Page
Hello Tvaughn05, just wanted to let you know that when you list a vandal on the WP:AIV page, you have to post it at the bottom of the page. You accidentally replaced the example that was under hidden text, which is just there so users know the format, thus, the vandal you reported didn't get listed. I noticed this and have blocked the vandal, so no harm done; this is only a friendly notice for the future. Also, when signing you name, please use four ~~~~, so that a timestamp comes out. This way, administrators can know what time you placed your warning to the vandal compared to his or her last vandalism (so we know if he or she has stopped vandalising). There is a way to add a customized signature so that it comes out when using the four tildes. simply go to "my preferences" and under nickname, enter all the special wiki markup you want to make the signature come out, then press save. Doing this will allow your username, and any other special feature you'd like to add to your sig come out when using the tildes. If you have already done this, then enter four tildes, instead of three so that the timestamp comes out next it. Thanks for reporting the vandal. -- PRueda29 / ^Ptalk29 / ^Pcontribs29 19:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

• I apologize, I clicked the add button that was in the instructions. I listed another vandal in the same way!! I'm sorry! Thanks for the tip on the signautre, I just missed a tilde =). I appreciate you letting me know this! Ø tVaughn05 ^talk_contribs 19:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Message to Thor: Re - Columbine

Thanks PRueda29, However, the reason I took the article on is that the list on the WP:WSW page still states under active participants, that the person who was working on it has gone, and that anyone is free to take up the article. If that could be corrected, I would be greatful, as it mislead me into thinking it still needed working on. Thor Malmjursson 14:36, 27 January 2006 (UTC) Talk to Thor

Columbine Edits

I apologize for editing your article. I didnt think anyone could edit an article to say whatever they want. I used your article as a source for a history fair project i am doing. I would like to thank you for your help and apologize for what i did. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.229.183.152 (talk • contribs) .

Image Tagging Image:MichaelKropHighSchool.jpg

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Re Krop School Newspaper

Leave a one or two line stub to the Krop school article and redirect, not worthy of AFD as that is probaly going to be the result. Thanks --Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 01:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Education in the United States

Sorry about the mixup with the tag. I thought by his comment that he had put it on there. I did wonder whether you thought this was the truth or if you added the tag because of what he said. If it's your opinion, could you please provide specific examples of extensive problems? Of course, my "correct it if you see it rather than add the tag" opinion still applies, but I wanted to know because frankly I really do not see any problem with the article.--naryathegreat | (talk) 02:46, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

"Wikipedia is not an encyclopædia in wiki"

Hello there. What I added was neither a commercial link nor a link to pages I've made. Therefore, your suggestion makes no sense whatsoever, and this prompts me to suggest for you to keep at least one if not two eyes open before letting anything escape your mouth. Also, I see you eliminated even the piece from the text referring to the mere existence of the game in question. This is rather dumb, given that the game differs in no way at all with the article's other inspired works of art. Therefore, the only explanation I can think of is that a video game is, somehow, beneath your personal quality bar by design. If so, this is a horrible defect of ignorance in your very essence, and we Wikipedians definitely do NOT need you or your vile vehicles for arbitrary censorship. Thanks. I'll have you know that I *will* add mention of the game again onto the article section, because there is not reason not to — however I will do my best to make it fit. I assume you won't terrorize me again? - 194.89.3.113 21:11, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

There's a policy in Wikipedia to assume good faith and not take a hostile attitude towards people. The message on your talk page is a template that is preset by Wikipedia, I didn't write it. Secondly, I have played the RPG before, and it's not "below my quality bar", either way, the articles aren't here as a form of promotion towards any website, whether you made it or not. At the moment I rolled back your edit, I felt that the link was a form of promotion, but then again I am human and make mistakes; a simple and courteous explanation from you on why it's not would've been enough for me to consider it otherwise. As for the text, I rolledback your addition of the link which automatically removes all previous, sequential edits by that user. If I were wanting to be hostile and "terrorize" you, I'd have taken more drastic measures, but I would never do such a thing, and I feel there's really no need for you to be hostile towards me. You are not a vandal, and if I had thought u were, I'd have added a vandalism template rather than a commercial links template. Either way, go ahead and add back the description of the game (perhaps a larger one). As for the link, it would be alright to add it as an in-article link (with no description). If you disagree, you are welcome to continue to discuss the topic with me. Thank You. -- PRueda29 / ^Ptalk29 / ^Pcontribs29 21:46, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello again, and thanks for the civil reply. It was definitely what I needed, as we're on pretty much the same wavelength. I indeed intend to expand the mention of the game without the unnecessary linking. I apologize for my earlier reply's sardonic tone, I guess it needs to be chalked up to wikistress. - 194.89.3.113 21:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)