Talk:Smash (album)

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The article says Killboy Powerhead is their only cover on the album, but that's not true. I can think of at least one other, "Feelings" from Americana. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.60.220 (talk) 05:05, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Someone has recently added a page for each of the songs on this album. I recommend redirecting most of them back to the album itself, except for the ones that were singles or that have enough information to warrant their own pages. Egpetersen 18:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the links to songs that have either no article or only a limited article and proposed the deletion of the limited song articles. There is no need to have a separate article for each song, as there is very little to say on most of them. There is also no point in a redirect back to the page you started on, therefore the links have been deleted. Nouse4aname 12:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Speedy Deletion 2 Concept Album? 3 Trivia 3.1 The Skeleton 4 Cover art 5 hidden track

[edit] Speedy Deletion

Ok, where has the speedy deletion request come from and why? The page needs a cleanup, not deleting. Far too much unsourced info and is obviously written by fans with no NPOV at all. I'm trying to tidy it up. Have removed the multiple wikilinks that plagued the page before...Nouse4aname 15:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Concept Album?

I do not really think that Smash (or any other Offspring album for that matter) is necessarily a "concept album". I feel that the term is only applied very loosely in this instance. Just because many of the songs are about "violence or destruction of public property" does not mean it is a concept album. Many albums by many bands tend to have a theme that links many/all of the songs, however I doubt that this constitutes a concept album. Nouse4aname 15:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Ok, so I am back, again. I'm trying to remove the obvious fan-bias present that has become incorporated into the article. And remove the trivia section by incorporating it into the text. I will post the section below, with my reasoning for what I will do so that trivia can be added back if decided necessary.

• Smash is the longest studio album by The Offspring. Delete Not really needed

• Smash is the first and only full length studio album by The Offspring to contain a cover song ("Killboy Powerhead" by The Didjits). Delete Not really needed

• In the United States, Smash is the The Offspring's last album released on Epitaph Records, although their subsequent release Ixnay on the Hombre, was released in Europe on Epitaph. work in to text

• Smash was the first Offspring album to chart as well as the first album to have singles to chart. work in to text

• The first track, "Time to Relax", contains 25 seconds of spoken words and was not featured on the cassette version of the album. Delete not informative

• Smash is considered to be:
  • the highest selling independent album of all time^{[citation needed]}.
  • the highest selling album released on Epitaph Records^{[citation needed]}. work into text

• Smash, costing approximately $5,000.00, was the cheapest produced album to reach multi-platinum sales records in the United States^{[citation needed]}.

work in to text

• Smash was the first album by The Offspring to have an introduction track ("Time To Relax").

delete probably.

• There is a hidden instrumental track on the album that became the intro to the song "Change the World" from Ixnay on the Hombre.

delete

• Smash was the first album by The Offspring to reach platinum (as well as multi-platinum).

work in to text

• Smash also contains the longest song by The Offspring ("Smash").

delete

[edit] The Skeleton

The skeleton on the cover of "Smash" is used for much of the artwork associated with the album. The use of the skull was meant to display the eventual destruction of mankind ^{[citation needed]}.

• The cover of the singles for "Come Out and Play" and "Self-Esteem" depict a similar skull.

• The skeleton can also be seen on the Smash disc, as well as on the back on the CD case.

work into the text

I'm being bold, but if anyone disagrees, just add the info back, but try to add it into the text rather than recreating a trivia section. Nouse4aname 09:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

About the highest selling independent album stuff: I think it would be best to reword that part of the article until we find a definitive source. I too have heard that claim from somewhere, but have not been able to find any reliable sources on that. I think it stills needs the "citation need" part in that part of the article though.--SaberBlaze 06:14, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I know lots of people (including me) think Smash is The Offspring's best record, but just because there are lots of people considering it to be their best or a highest selling one, whatever, doesn't mean it has anything to do with being in the article. Sources, such as Allmusic.com, don't even say it would be their highest selling one either. 66.53.220.47 20:26, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I reworked a lot of this page, fixing some of the errors and adding citations. I hope you guys approve.

[edit] Cover art

Why is "the" missing from the album cover? Is it only stylistic reasons or is there some significance to that? --Mika1h 19:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

• I don't really know, on all of the singles from the "Smash" period, the 'The' is missing too. Probably just similar to 'The Prodigy' changing their name to 'Prodigy' for a logo change in the 90's.--Gen. Quon (talk) 02:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hidden track

I think that the instrumental played just after the end of 'Smash' is from 'Genocide', not from 'Change the world' as written. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.33.124.71 (talk) 11:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)