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Contents 1 Purpose of this article 1.1 Introduction 1.2 Definitions 1.3 Philosophy 1.4 Simulasim to replace Simulated Reality 1.5 Fair use rationale for Image:Narnia Map.jpg 1.6 Fair use rationale for Image:Thirteenth Floor, The.jpg

[edit] Purpose of this article

This article is a virtual-world simulation of the Simulated Reality article. 
I have set this up in an attempt to deal with all of the issues that have beset the original. 
It is my intention to keep this as 'clean' as possible, and remove anything which would get it
the 'unverified claims' attribution, and to attempt to remove the 'copy editing' tag.  
--TonyFleet 07:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Introduction

I have tried to focus on what is actually written, and have deliberately mixed up philosphy, popular culture, science and science fiction. The simulation hypothesis is forefronted but not the simulation arguments, and this is deliberate, because i wanted to downplay these in favour of other material, which documents the SH in history, philosophy, science and culture, in an attempt to establish the academic credibility of the topic--TonyFleet 01:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Definitions

I have introduced the distinction between Extrinsic and Intrinsic consciouness, because later on, it will be useful to distinguish between these cases, when, for example we are considering moral issues and scientific issues to do with time, biology etc.--TonyFleet 01:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philosophy

Underpinning this section are three main philosophical questions posed by Simulism:

• What is the true nature of consciouness?
• Are the mind and body distict, separate entities?
• What is the true nature of reality?--TonyFleet 12:19, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Now that I have begun to write this section, I realise that I have become completely bogged down in a surfeit of information. I am considering transporting much of this to The simulism Website and drastically pruning what I have written here. This will be difficult to do, given the nature of the topic and how it spreads itself into so many areas. The danger is in reducing it, it becomes more superficial, and less credible.

--TonyFleet 11:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Simulasim to replace Simulated Reality

Although the article is a little overwhelming in the scope of the information given, it is well-written, organized, and an all-around improvement over the orginal article. I vote for simulasim to replace the simulated reality article. Hermine hesse 03:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I vote for the relevant content of Simulism to simply be moved to the original article, or to merge them. --24.183.102.219 19:44, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think it's fair to say they(Simulism versus Simulation Hypothesis) are different concepts. Simulism is "a principle, belief or movement" (which is why you usually add the postfix -ism to something) regarding reality as a simulation, whereas the Simulation Hypothesis is merely a psuedo-scientific argument that reality is a simulation. I'm not sure merging or replacing is the correct question, but rather should we simply be deleting this article? Ie, is Simulism a notable concept worthy of a wikipedia page? I'd argue, yes, that it most certainly is a notable concept, however people may beg to differ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.88.162 (talk) 15:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Please do not merge "Simulation hypotheses" into "Simulism". If you insist on a merge, do it the other way around. The term "Simulation argument" is far more common than "Simulation hypothesis" -- which itself is far more common than "Simulism" ... and I presume "Simulasim" is a typo. For instance, a Google phrase search (using the double quotes) currently returns 20,500 hits for "simulation argument", and 4,230 hits for "simulation hypothesis", but only "1,560" hits for "simulism". (5 hits for "simulasim".) --Parsiferon (talk) 06:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Narnia Map.jpg

Image:Narnia Map.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 00:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Thirteenth Floor, The.jpg

Image:Thirteenth Floor, The.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 02:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)